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What about this platform (HİSTEP) as a booster for a HGV? HGVs are typically released at altitudes between 100 km to 150 km. Or would we need satellites for guidance too?
HGVs are heavy. You are looking at minimum 600kg to 2+ tons of gliding bombs. Avantgarde is 2000kg. They are looking at lowering it to 800kg. It is released just over 100km altitude .You need multiple of these being launched to have real effect. The missiles that will launch and release these is 36 tons in weight.

Chinese carrier missile with lower payload of 600-1200kg with short (~300-600km) range and 40-60km altitude has 5000kg launch weight. DF17 with mid range distance has 15 tons launch weight.

Our delta-V, has a 3-4 ton launch weight for 50kg. We still have a lot of way to go. But Delta-V is a good example to build on as it has already reached 200km altitude.
 

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HGVs are heavy. You are looking at minimum 600kg to 2+ tons of gliding bombs. Avantgarde is 2000kg. They are looking at lowering it to 800kg. It is released just over 100km altitude .You need multiple of these being launched to have real effect. The missiles that will launch and release these is 36 tons in weight.

Chinese carrier missile with lower payload of 600-1200kg with short (~300-600km) range and 40-60km altitude has 5000kg launch weight. DF17 with mid range distance has 15 tons launch weight.

Our delta-V, has a 3-4 ton launch weight for 50kg. We still have a lot of way to go. But Delta-V is a good example to build on as it has already reached 200km altitude.
Would be nice to have, but using this technology (HISTEP) for air defense makes more sense and imo it is more urgent. Also i would prefer more KAANs over HGVs.
 

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The best part of this test is the hot stage separation. 200km altitude is trivial.
 

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The best part of this test is the hot stage separation. 200km altitude is trivial.
It is indeed EKV and it is nothing new. One has to produce an EKV to develop an MKV. Tubitak SAGE and Roketsan have been developing subsystems and researching base technologies for years. Exoatmospheric interception capability will be introduced after 2028.


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Would be nice to have, but using this technology (HISTEP) for air defense makes more sense and imo it is more urgent. Also i would prefer more KAANs over HGVs.
Hypersonic Glide Vehicle travels at hypersonic speeds during most of its flight. Especially during its mid course flight. But as it enters denser atmospheric layers it will lose speed. At terminal phase it will most likely be at supersonic speeds. Depending on its aerodynamic structure and mainly its weight, it may be at anything from high supersonic to high subsonic when it hits the target.

The Avangard HGV, for example, is known to use a "zig-zag" trajectory at Mach 20-27 during its mid-course flight, but it is understood to impact the target at speeds below Mach 4, using a linear trajectory.

An aerodynamically sleek ballistic missile weighing 10+ tons at terminal stage however, may hit a target at speeds well in excess of 5Mach.

HGVs are good. But expensive. Very high tech. But they are a good way to overcome layered missile defence systems to deliver multi payloads.

As we have come a long way in hypersonic ballistic missiles with Tayfun and it’s newer versions, it is wiser to develop these at this stage.

Siper3 will fill a void in the current layered missile defence system. So if Delta-V is to help achieve a competent Siper3, all the merrier.

KAAN, I agree is the MUST of all of us. But to make it happen, we need the indigenous engine.
 

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Dr. Mehmet Kahraman, General Manager of DeltaV, said:
"With this system, we have actually gained the opportunity to develop a system that enables movement in the hypersonic speed regime—that is, speeds five times the speed of sound and above. When we look at it, hypersonic technologies are critical and game-changing, but developing these technologies is just as difficult. That’s why we aim to create a cost-effective, sustainable, and non-hazardous test platform—meaning one without explosive properties—for both our country and our allies."

Kahraman continued:
"What we’ve done here is actually build a two-stage rocket. The first stage brings the vehicle to a certain altitude and speed, and then the second stage ignites on top of it through a process called 'hot staging' (hot staging means igniting the second stage while it’s still attached to the first). In this way, it separates and continues accelerating, reaching hypersonic speeds. After reaching a certain altitude, it continued its ascent, and after reaching its peak altitude, it returned back to Earth."

 

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President of the Presidency of Defense Industries, Haluk Görgün, stated that they plan to carry out the first launch test of the Şimşek-1 satellite launch system, which has the capacity to be placed in low Earth orbit, in 2027, and added: "We will plan the development and testing of the Şimşek-2 satellite launch system, for which conceptual design activities are ongoing to place satellites weighing 1,500 kilograms into a 700-kilometer sun-synchronous orbit, by the end of this year."


Dear Ministers, esteemed guests, valued members of the press,

I would like to begin by expressing my pleasure at being with you on the occasion of the "New Age of Connectivity Forum" organized with the motto "The Future is Now Close." I hope this forum brings prosperity to all participants and to our country. I greet you all with love and respect. [Applause]

As you are aware, today’s battlefield environment has made nations increasingly dependent on space-based systems. The growing needs for precise positioning and timing, real-time imagery and signal intelligence, and communication across regional and global geographies have been driving the commercial and military use of space systems at an ever-accelerating pace.

With the rising demand for space systems, countries have increased their investments in space technologies, leading to significant technological advancements. These capabilities include satellite launch systems, communication satellites, meteorological satellites, positioning and timing satellites, reconnaissance and surveillance satellites, signal intelligence satellites, anti-satellite systems, and space-based surveillance systems.

As countries’ space capabilities grow, technological competition has intensified, evolving into an international race for space superiority. Today, military operations heavily rely on satellite communications to be executed effectively. Countries with robust capabilities in providing uninterrupted, geography- and condition-independent communication gain a significant force multiplier.

Satellites operating in all frequency bands today support the operational capabilities of advanced nations. Integrated systems that enable real-time, secure communication among all platforms are replacing traditional strategic and tactical military approaches. Due to their wide-area coverage and independence from geography, space technologies are now a backbone of this integration.

In the space projects led and planned by the Presidency of Defense Industries, we aim to advance this integration even further. To meet the Turkish Armed Forces’ need for space-based communication, our procurement and localization efforts for KU-band and X-band satellite terminals and satellite transceivers for air, land, and sea forces continue.

Satellite communication centers—primary and backup—as well as terminals for both mobile and fixed users, are being designed and manufactured domestically with national capabilities. Due to evolving operational concepts, satellite communications, which are minimally affected by geographic conditions, have become one of the primary means of communication for the Turkish Armed Forces.

Looking ahead, we are actively involved in the planning to meet future satellite communication needs through the domestically-produced TÜRKSAT 7A platform. We understand the importance of initiating procurement and R&D projects in the right areas to build a sustainable domestic space and satellite technology infrastructure. It is crucial that these products undergo rigorous, planned testing phases—known as "heritage" processes—to prove their performance in space conditions.

Hence, when developing satellite equipment and technologies, we ensure R&D, qualification, and heritage phases are continuous and aligned with previously designed operational satellite platforms.

To obtain very high-resolution satellite imagery for the Turkish Armed Forces, we are carrying out the Göktürk Renewal Satellite System Development Project, the İMECE-23 High-Resolution Satellite Constellation Project, and the Göktürk-3 Project.

Under our ongoing space access projects, we are continuing work on developing a satellite launch system. We plan to conduct the first launch test of the Şimşek-1 system—which can place satellites weighing at least 400 kg into low Earth orbit (550 km)—in 2027. For satellites weighing up to 1,500 kg and destined for 700 km sun-synchronous orbits, we are continuing conceptual design work on the Şimşek-2 launch system and aim to initiate its development and testing by the end of this year. Our goal is for Şimşek-2 to be capable of deploying our reconnaissance satellites into orbit in the future.

We also value the efforts of the Turkish Space Agency under the Ministry of Industry and Technology, which coordinates developments in the civil space sector and pursues international cooperation. We strive to contribute as much as we can, believing in the importance of their work.

Our country’s space ecosystem continues to work with full commitment and determination to stay competitive in the global space race. I thank everyone involved in these efforts.

We reaffirm our strong commitment to supporting the National Space Program announced by our President. In closing, I express my hope that our country will reach a self-reliant space industry capable of producing original, competitive, and reliable products for the global market.

I express my gratitude to everyone and all institutions involved in organizing this event. I am pleased to be a stakeholder in this important forum and wish it brings prosperity to our country. I greet you all with love and respect.
 
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Under our ongoing space access projects, we are continuing work on developing a satellite launch system. We plan to conduct the first launch test of the Şimşek-1 system—which can place satellites weighing at least 400 kg into low Earth orbit (550 km)—in 2027. For satellites weighing up to 1,500 kg and destined for 700 km sun-synchronous orbits, we are continuing conceptual design work on the Şimşek-2 launch system and aim to initiate its development and testing by the end of this year. Our goal is for Şimşek-2 to be capable of deploying our reconnaissance satellites into orbit in the future.

ROKETSAN Space Launch Systems (new)

Suborbital:
- Probe rockets: TP and SR-0.1 series <136km ✅
- Probe rocket: SR-1 100kg / 300km (end 2023)

Orbital:
- Simsek 1 and 2: 400kg - 1.5t / 550 - 700km (2027-28) - Medium class launch system: >3.5t / GTO (2028+)

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Şimşek Micro Satellite Rocket 500kg to 550+km

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Şimşek-SLV 1500+kg to 700+km altitude, 2,5m rocket engine diameter

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Development of SLV and establishment of launch sites (High likely in Kirklareli) is in progress. This year, SR1 sounding rocket (100kg payload to 300km) will be launched into space.
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Later, Şimşek SLV family will welcome Turkish satellites
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Şimsek-1
  • 19m length
  • 32 ton mass
  • 1,35m rocket engine diameter

Şimsek-2
  • 160ton mass
  • 35m length
  • 2,5m diameter first stage


Construction of the ŞİMŞEK-1 launch vehicle facility has begun

A contract was signed with the SSB for the construction of the ŞİMŞEK-1 launch vehicle facility developed by ROKETSAN. ŞİMŞEK-2 will be used in the 2nd Moon Mission.

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Turkey’s Moon Mission: Preparations Continue for the Indigenous and National Spacecraft

Within the scope of the Moon Mission Project conducted under the coordination of the Turkish Space Agency (TUA), a spacecraft developed entirely with domestic and national resources will reach lunar orbit and collect scientific data. The project aims to prove Turkey’s competence in space technologies and its engineering capacity on the international stage.

The spacecraft, developed by TÜBİTAK Space Technologies Research Institute (TÜBİTAK UZAY), will maneuver into lunar orbit using its own orientation and propulsion systems after separating from the launcher. This advanced technology platform, which will collect high-precision data from the Moon’s surface, will open a new chapter in Turkey’s scientific space research.

CRITICAL SYSTEMS ARE PRODUCTS OF NATIONAL ENGINEERING

The spacecraft’s most critical components are being developed with national engineering capabilities. The flight computer (Spacecraft Management Equipment), payload interfaces, propulsion control and thermal monitoring systems, power distribution units, fixed solar panels, communication systems, reaction wheels, inertial measurement unit, and structural parts are all entirely domestically produced. Special materials such as multi-layer insulation blankets resistant to space conditions are also being developed in Turkey.

Among the mission payloads are scientific instruments such as a video camera, visual navigation system, radiation dosimeter, and calorimeter. With these systems, the data obtained from the Moon’s surface is intended to contribute both to scientific research and to Turkey’s technological knowledge base.

RECORD-BREAKING SUCCESS WITH HYBRID PROPULSION SYSTEM FROM DELTAV

The hybrid propulsion system to be used in the spacecraft is being developed by the domestic technology company DELTAV. Production and space compatibility tests of the system are currently ongoing successfully. In the most recent test, a two-stage hybrid rocket system reached an altitude of over 200 km, setting a new altitude record for hybrid rocket engines.

The Moon Mission not only demonstrates the advanced level Turkey has reached in national space technologies, but also makes a strong contribution to the country’s vision of scientific and technological independence.

 

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Turkey’s Moon Mission: Preparations Continue for the Indigenous and National Spacecraft

Within the scope of the Moon Mission Project conducted under the coordination of the Turkish Space Agency (TUA), a spacecraft developed entirely with domestic and national resources will reach lunar orbit and collect scientific data. The project aims to prove Turkey’s competence in space technologies and its engineering capacity on the international stage.

The spacecraft, developed by TÜBİTAK Space Technologies Research Institute (TÜBİTAK UZAY), will maneuver into lunar orbit using its own orientation and propulsion systems after separating from the launcher. This advanced technology platform, which will collect high-precision data from the Moon’s surface, will open a new chapter in Turkey’s scientific space research.

CRITICAL SYSTEMS ARE PRODUCTS OF NATIONAL ENGINEERING

The spacecraft’s most critical components are being developed with national engineering capabilities. The flight computer (Spacecraft Management Equipment), payload interfaces, propulsion control and thermal monitoring systems, power distribution units, fixed solar panels, communication systems, reaction wheels, inertial measurement unit, and structural parts are all entirely domestically produced. Special materials such as multi-layer insulation blankets resistant to space conditions are also being developed in Turkey.

Among the mission payloads are scientific instruments such as a video camera, visual navigation system, radiation dosimeter, and calorimeter. With these systems, the data obtained from the Moon’s surface is intended to contribute both to scientific research and to Turkey’s technological knowledge base.

RECORD-BREAKING SUCCESS WITH HYBRID PROPULSION SYSTEM FROM DELTAV

The hybrid propulsion system to be used in the spacecraft is being developed by the domestic technology company DELTAV. Production and space compatibility tests of the system are currently ongoing successfully. In the most recent test, a two-stage hybrid rocket system reached an altitude of over 200 km, setting a new altitude record for hybrid rocket engines.

The Moon Mission not only demonstrates the advanced level Turkey has reached in national space technologies, but also makes a strong contribution to the country’s vision of scientific and technological independence.

Sounds good but, faster Türkiye faster!
 

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