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Wooow
Those fqers arent even bothering to hide their intentions any longer

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NEW/IMPORTANT — The division of Syria is being discussed in Israel. Israeli Energy and Infrastructure Minister Eli Cohen stated in a cabinet meeting that Syria may need to be divided into cantons in order to protect all ethnic groups in Syria. Cohen recommended that an international conference on Syria be held and that this proposal be put on the table at this conference.
-Israel Hayom-
Israel finally came out from behind the curtain, they are now talking openly about every issue, even going to war with Turkey to establish a Kurdish state in ME. These were issues we already knew, they no longer need to hide their hostility, we have not forgotten their betrayal of the Ottomans.
 

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OP has come to the conclusion that Menbic was built like a outpost to protect Aynel arab which is the real place PKK/YPG/SDG wants to hold on to
For those who dont know, Kobani is quite the strategic city IMO
Not only was it the birthplace of the current SDF commander Mazloum Abdi, but also has the highest pro-pkk population in all of Syria followed by Qamishli

If the SDF loses Kobani, then all what remains are cities that are generally anti-SDF and are predominantly Arabs in origin. In other words, Kurdistan depends on Kobani as its capital with kurdish diaspora coming from Turkey, Iraq, and the rest of Syria to bring it alive. Without Kobani, no kurd would go to an area that is predominantly arab and hates the kurds due to the warcrimes of the PKK/SDF.
 
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I am reading many casualties on sna forces than SDF is it true, SDF are very successfully repelling the turkey backed SNA forces, they are destroying tanks armoured vehicles, causing high number of casualties on sna compared to SDF, is it true, can someone clarify. Is the US holding the Turkiye army from conducting operations.


When you consider the Kurdish forces they were traitors they did not align with Assad regime they supported US, they helped them steal oil, they were running a defacto state while the rest of the syrians were languishing in refugee camps and suffering in poverty, and when a legitimate government is installed in Syria where the whole world is starting to support they are obstinate not to fall in line, and fighting against the syrians, so its time to do away with SDF and unite entire syrians together chasing away outside forces, sharing the wealth of syria equally among its citizens. Why turkey is reluctant to launch operations, why sna has got bogged down on the west if Euphrates, is it because the SDF is so strong.
 

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I am reading many casualties on sna forces than SDF is it true, SDF are very successfully repelling the turkey backed SNA forces, they are destroying tanks armoured vehicles, causing high number of casualties on sna compared to SDF, is it true, can someone clarify. Is the US holding the Turkiye army from conducting operations.


When you consider the Kurdish forces they were traitors they did not align with Assad regime they supported US, they helped them steal oil, they were running a defacto state while the rest of the syrians were languishing in refugee camps and suffering in poverty, and when a legitimate government is installed in Syria where the whole world is starting to support they are obstinate not to fall in line, and fighting against the syrians, so its time to do away with SDF and unite entire syrians together chasing away outside forces, sharing the wealth of syria equally among its citizens. Why turkey is reluctant to launch operations, why sna has got bogged down on the west if Euphrates, is it because the SDF is so strong.

Because Erdoğan's new election strategy is to make peace with PKK/YPG in order to gain kurdish votes. It's no longer a priority to destroy YPG, he has already sold the rebel takeover of Syria as a 4D chess success to his voter base.
 

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I am reading many casualties on sna forces than SDF is it true, SDF are very successfully repelling the turkey backed SNA forces, they are destroying tanks armoured vehicles, causing high number of casualties on sna compared to SDF, is it true, can someone clarify. Is the US holding the Turkiye army from conducting operations.


When you consider the Kurdish forces they were traitors they did not align with Assad regime they supported US, they helped them steal oil, they were running a defacto state while the rest of the syrians were languishing in refugee camps and suffering in poverty, and when a legitimate government is installed in Syria where the whole world is starting to support they are obstinate not to fall in line, and fighting against the syrians, so its time to do away with SDF and unite entire syrians together chasing away outside forces, sharing the wealth of syria equally among its citizens. Why turkey is reluctant to launch operations, why sna has got bogged down on the west if Euphrates, is it because the SDF is so strong.
SDF can be strong against SNA and HTS. They were being supplied and prepared since 10 yesrs by US. But not strong against Turkey of course. Ir is rather our gov who is waiting HTS to do the job, which is totally naive. If I were president people would have long heard the strong voice of our commandos as they did in Afrin center. This is all about do you rhink of your political future or country“s future?
 

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I am reading many casualties on sna forces than SDF is it true, SDF are very successfully repelling the turkey backed SNA forces, they are destroying tanks armoured vehicles, causing high number of casualties on sna compared to SDF, is it true, can someone clarify. Is the US holding the Turkiye army from conducting operations.


When you consider the Kurdish forces they were traitors they did not align with Assad regime they supported US, they helped them steal oil, they were running a defacto state while the rest of the syrians were languishing in refugee camps and suffering in poverty, and when a legitimate government is installed in Syria where the whole world is starting to support they are obstinate not to fall in line, and fighting against the syrians, so its time to do away with SDF and unite entire syrians together chasing away outside forces, sharing the wealth of syria equally among its citizens. Why turkey is reluctant to launch operations, why sna has got bogged down on the west if Euphrates, is it because the SDF is so strong.
SDF and pro-western media is going full throttle on propaganda
They are trying to portray the image that the SDF is winning while the Turks are losing in order to convince the West to continue supporting them. However, the reality is much different! The PKK is getting fqed and is on borrowed time; however, that can change at any moment

Rn, the situation is in favour of the SNA but the SDF is trying to buy time and reverse the situation which is highly likely if the US insists on defending the kurds. It all deoends on Trump at the end
 

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Because Erdoğan's new election strategy is to make peace with PKK/YPG in order to gain kurdish votes. It's no longer a priority to destroy YPG, he has already sold the rebel takeover of Syria as a 4D chess success to his voter base.
Chill down bro
We all know where the peace talks with DEM party will end up in. In the last decade, dozens of peace talks were initiated and all failed

Even Erdogan recently said that Ocalan, the baby killer, will remain in prison

This is just my opinion but I think that one of the reasons for the current peace talks is to try and fragment the kurdish alliance between the DEM and SDF; i-e, the govt is offering the DEM politicans and kurdish ppl a chance to divert from the SDF to save themselves while the SDF bears it all amd get annihilated and knowing how opportunistic the kurds are, it is a plausible solution

But as I said in the previous post, the absolute deal breaker is Trump at the end of the day
 

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Chill down bro
We all know where the peace talks with DEM party will end up in. In the last decade, dozens of peace talks were initiated and all failed

Even Erdogan recently said that Ocalan, the baby killer, will remain in prison

This is just my opinion but I think that one of the reasons for the current peace talks is to try and fragment the kurdish alliance between the DEM and SDF; i-e, the govt is offering the DEM politicans and kurdish ppl a chance to divert from the SDF to save themselves while the SDF bears it all amd get annihilated and knowing how opportunistic the kurds are, it is a plausible solution

But as I said in the previous post, the absolute deal breaker is Trump at the end of the day
Yeah no, it's not that simple. Just like previous peace talks, this won't achieve anything, it'll just give them time to regroup. Last time there was a peace deal, they set IEDs all over the place... You can't just separate DEM from PKK/YPG, they are intertwined. A lot of DEM members have direct links to PKK, you can't just bribe them out of this.

AKP just wants kurdish votes that it lost to CHP. At the same time, it also can't afford a new operation because the sanctions would cripple the economy to the point where AKP would crumble.

The whole world's eyes were on Russia-Ukraine, then for the past year or so it has shifted to Israel-Palestine, yet we haven't lifted a finger. Azerbaijan broke the back of the Armenian military in 2020, then absolutely humiliated them in a single day in 2023. Yet Türkiye, with the most powerful military in the middle east just watches as Iran and the USA arms a PKK state next door.

There's no excuse for this utter incompetence, in fact I wouldn't call it incompetence, it's treason.
 

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I think the government is waiting and biding their time, they need Syrias government to be recognized first in UN and such, and under way Joulani will face many threats, hard choices and what not, but the west also knows that once the transition government is recognized in UN they are more free and can act on behalf of the people as needed, kinda like Libya. Once the Syrian transitional government is in power they can tell US to leave Syria, invite an ally to help clean up / secure the country against invaders.

So they'll do a lot to put the hurt/pressure on Syria. And Türkiye can't just stay silent while Syria gets beaten into submission. We need to put some serious hurt on YPG/SDG/PKK and take away important places, including destroying oil fields. But also landing fields and such US uses to supply the terrorists.
 

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I think the government is waiting and biding their time, they need Syrias government to be recognized first in UN and such, and under way Joulani will face many threats, hard choices and what not, but the west also knows that once the transition government is recognized in UN they are more free and can act on behalf of the people as needed, kinda like Libya. Once the Syrian transitional government is in power they can tell US to leave Syria, invite an ally to help clean up / secure the country against invaders.

So they'll do a lot to put the hurt/pressure on Syria. And Türkiye can't just stay silent while Syria gets beaten into submission. We need to put some serious hurt on YPG/SDG/PKK and take away important places, including destroying oil fields. But also landing fields and such US uses to supply the terrorists.
These are good arguments but the more rational you think about it the more it benefits YPG as the whole thing tends towards a diplomatic solution where they get some sort of autonomy and recognition after which it becomes difficult to attack them. Do you think after Syrian gov is recognized and Turkey is invited for help, the West wont apply any sanctions on the gov? It will surely do, so waiting is of no use for us. Also when Trump is there next week, you can forget about any military solution to this. He is sure to threaten and subdue us. So whatever we could do, we should have done already. Sometimes good not to think too deep and just get into action when the iron is hot and still bendable!
 

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If true it is not bad, but we should do more. Especially what I dont understand is after there is a terrorist act we say x hundred targets have been hit. But we can ask: my dear where have you been before? If these targets were known and worthy of attack why did you wait until the terror attack happens??? In Irak we are still not in Gara. Why are we not in Sincar or Süleymaniye? So I am fed up with this theatre. I want to see tangible results. Sorry if this is harsh but my nation‘s pride is at stake and tens of thousands of our martyr‘s holy memory to be respected.
 
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