Live Conflict Syria Civil War

[Lool]

Omg
That would be a massive news

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885610515440804153

 

[Sanchez]

Thus, it would be the epitome of foolishness to protect Ocalan

You are speaking on hypotheticals when we have the history to look to. After Turkey threatened war with Syria over Syria's basing of PKK and Öcalan, he first moved to Russia where he was granted asylum. He was invited by Greek MPs to Greece, but chose to go to Italy instead. Both Germany and Turkey had arrest warrants on him and Germans requested that he be given to them, but Germany was unwilling to trial him in Germany, they wanted a 3rd unrelated European country, fearing from the Kurdish diaspora in Germany. Italy denied Turkey's extradition request citing UNCAT and Turkey having death penalty. So he was sent back to Russia to get themselves rid of him, who sent him back to Greece. Dutch didn't accept him so he went back to Greece, from which he went to Kenya. He was later apprehended in a Greek intelligence fiasco by a joint team of MİT and CIA in Nairobi. Americans were right there with us, some say it was Americans that handled all the operation and just handed him to us, though this is without any proofs.

What I'm trying to say is that plenty of countries, allied countries in fact did help Öcalan against us.

How does Ocalan know of such powers when he was jailed since 1999?

He reads.

This has similarity with the FETO incident in which the FETO leader escaped to the US in order to get protected from Turkey

Gülen didn't "escape" Turkey. He cited his health reasons to board a plane to US and never came back.

 

[Anastasius]

@Lool

This is no bait and switch! It is either you cant understand or dont want to understand to keep believing your fantasy

Bro, you literally changed your claim on the fly.

Sure that theory is applicable when you have a "true" democracy and not a sham planned by the West

And what exactly makes Ukraine's democracy "a sham planned by the West"? Your imagination?

Idk what is hard to cmprehend about "the first democratic leader was even more corrupt than his predecessor dictators and was replaced, in 2019, with an even worse candidate that drove his country into a losing war that ending up not only crippling Ukraine's people but also giving strategic lands and resources to Russia

Oh I don't know, maybe because it's total nonsense? Not even debatable nonsense but straight-up nonsense.

Russia is a superpower, whether you like it or not, and they wont stay quiet when a pre-Russian satellite state has a 0.0000001% chance of joining NATO whose borders has an air-distance that is only 800 km from Moscow

Russia is a corrupt hellhole not a superpower and Ukraine shouldn't be forced to cripple itself because it makes Russia mad otherwise.

In such conditions, democratic leaders supposedly should have a brain to not get involved in fights you cant win.

And like I said, I didn't know Zelensky forced Russia to attack Ukraine in 2022.

It wasnt documeted but that doesnt mean that it wasnt said

This is so absurdly stupid I won't even dignify it with a response.

Well duh, because Russia is the stronger side ffs

Oh, well surely you'd be totally OK with your much-hated US invading Albania and then Albanians just taking it like little bitches because, well, US is the stronger side after all.

The deal stated that no buffer zone is to be applied to Russia so that it can act if Ukriane ever started to think about joining NATO again and as a sign of goodwill, Putin retreated from Kyiv and will go back to MINSK agreement lines.

No the deal said that Russia keeps everything it has acquired and can continue to arm itself further while Ukraine might as well disarm itself.

And please tell me who told Zelensky, a presumable clown who knows nothing about politics, to continue this war?

Him and his advisors and generals? You call him a clown yet he is a "clown" that I'd wager has way more knowledge about geopolitics than you and I. You are like a dude harping on about the freaking Illuminati and Knights Templars to explain every little thing in politics.

Allow me to end it with the words of Georgian Prime minister who saw what happened in Ukraine and learned to not repeat the mistake of the jewish clown Zelensky.

AHAHAHAHA, are you seriously gonna cite an actual pro-Russian mouthpiece? This is not me exaggerating BTW, him and his party are literally in the pockets of Russia. The average Georgian hates this MF like you wouldn't believe.

Russia was the one stalling for time?

Yes. You're the one who keeps accusing me of not understanding geopolitics, you clearly don't understand timing and seizing the opportune moment.

Are wa talking about the same army and nation? Because I cant believe that this nation trained and equipped the PKK to be this efficient, cunning, and lethal

Greece did something stupid? So? US army also does a lot of stupid things yet you wouldn't want to pick a fight with them. And again you're trying to move away from the topic. I did not say the US does not support PKK today. I said that the US did not create the PKK (and it is true) and Greece didn't need to have the eeeevil US whispering in their ear to provide support to the PKK on their own. It's getting really annoying how you keep trying this bait-and-switch crap. Stop it.

No need to be subtle because we all know how corrupt the AKP is but the opposition trying to act as saints while they are just as corrupt is different

Address my question. Why are you immediately posting about "le CHP bad" or someone else bad whenever anyone posts something bad that the AKP did?

Will Netherlands ever risk destroying relations with Turkey just for one man who wont give the Netherlands any value mentioned?

Do we know he did not offer Netherlands any value? Do we know that the Netherlands were even aware he was hiding there?

Netherlands have good relations with Turkey

Totally, let's just look at some recent history...oh, wait.

Thus, it would be the epitome of foolishness to protect Ocalan unless he has plans to just use the Netherlands as a transit point to the US or the Netherlands can hide behind an entity that Turkey cant say "NO" to and honestly only one nation fits the criteria

So once again, you have no actual solid evidence, just your own personal beliefs (or talking points given to you) that you keep pushing like the absolute truth.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

I dont think that the TAF will remain silent if the IDF bomb HTS and SNA.

Yesterday the IDF killed 3 Turkish nationals at the Lebanese border for example. They are provoking us.

bro you can't even conduct operations against pkk in syria because of USA what makes you think we are going to bomb IDF stop being delusional.

 

[Barry]

just another mental islamist

 

[AlperTunga]

You are speaking on hypotheticals when we have the history to look to. After Turkey threatened war with Syria over Syria's basing of PKK and Öcalan, he first moved to Russia where he was granted asylum. He was invited by Greek MPs to Greece, but chose to go to Italy instead. Both Germany and Turkey had arrest warrants on him and Germans requested that he be given to them, but Germany was unwilling to trial him in Germany, they wanted a 3rd unrelated European country, fearing from the Kurdish diaspora in Germany. Italy denied Turkey's extradition request citing UNCAT and Turkey having death penalty. So he was sent back to Russia to get themselves rid of him, who sent him back to Greece. Dutch didn't accept him so he went back to Greece, from which he went to Kenya. He was later apprehended in a Greek intelligence fiasco by a joint team of MİT and CIA in Nairobi. Americans were right there with us, some say it was Americans that handled all the operation and just handed him to us, though this is without any proofs.

What I'm trying to say is that plenty of countries, allied countries in fact did help Öcalan against us.


He reads.

Gülen didn't "escape" Turkey. He cited his health reasons to board a plane to US and never came back.

Speaking of Gülen I remember how our gov was begging US to deliver him. They were openly complaining that they provided US tons of evidence documents but US not listening. Such a disgrace. I was dreaming of a strong Türkiye that would send an undercover execution team to Pennsylvania and „liquidate“ the traitor. That would be a country to die for. Yes maybe that team would have been martyred. But the message given to the whole world would be so strong people would think twice before they act against us.

 

[Ryder]

Speaking of Gülen I remember how our gov was begging US to deliver him. They were openly complaining that they provided US tons of evidence documents but US not listening. Such a disgrace. I was dreaming of a strong Türkiye that would send an undercover execution team to Pennsylvania and „liquidate“ the traitor. That would be a country to die for. Yes maybe that team would have been martyred. But the message given to the whole world would be so strong people would think twice before they act against us.

I think Akp and co were too much of pussies to send a contract killer. Turkiye sent a lot of contract killers to liquidate asala and pkk terrorists. Erdogan would not even think of doing it.

Then again werent Erdogan and co bed buddies with Feto.

They could not take out their spiritual leader.

 

[MhhJA]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

 

[Lool]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

Hts backstabbed Turkey; nothing more or less
A president like Al-Joulani is still wet behind the ears and think that negotiations will solve everything and that all factions care about Syria; he still cant comprehend that the SDF/PKK is nothing more than a terrorist organisation and you dont negotiate with terrorists

Those filths want a pseudo-state and even a portion of the oil reserves; if a mere 4% of the population gets what they want, then expect the Druze and Alawites to announce their own pseudo-state as well

Why do you think Israel invaded Syria at this very moment, one of the reasons including protecting the Druze in case they announced their independece and if the druze and kurds broke from Syria, then the shia alawites will 100% break as well

Finally, the US isnt likely to retreat from Syria even if Trump wants that as Natenyahu, pentagon officials, and deep state zionist filths reject such a notion in the first place. As time passes, a turkish victory against the PKK seems bleak

 

[Ryder]

Thank you Erdogan for the peace process.

You may have achieved Pkk withdrawing from Turkiye but instead strengthened its position in Syria and Iraq.

Now all the politicians regardless of party are all cucking themselves to a certain voterbase.

I thought military was bad due to the coups they do now I realised why do it.

Democracy shouldnt be a reason to committ treason on your own country.

Rough road ahead because the pkk is backed by Usa and the Zionists. The operations have long past because the people who leads Turkiye got no balls.

 

[Ryder]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

Everytime a operation is postponed.

Cowards of the highest order.

Somebody really does have Erdogan by the balls. If he does something his dirty work will be exposed.

 

[Ryder]

Hts backstabbed Turkey; nothing more or less
A president like Al-Joulani is still wet behind the ears and think that negotiations will solve everything and that all factions care about Syria; he still cant comprehend that the SDF/PKK is nothing more than a terrorist organisation and you dont negotiate with terrorists

Those filths want a pseudo-state and even a portion of the oil reserves; if a mere 4% of the population gets what they want, then expect the Druze and Alawites to announce their own pseudo-state as well

Why do you think Israel invaded Syria at this very moment, one of the reasons including protecting the Druze in case they announced their independece and if the druze and kurds broke from Syria, then the shia alawites will 100% break as well

Finally, the US isnt likely to retreat from Syria even if Trump wants that as Natenyahu, pentagon officials, and deep state zionist filths reject such a notion in the first place. As time passes, a turkish victory against the PKK seems bleak

Turkiye spent decades trying to respect Iraq and Syria's territory.

What a waste. I could careless about about the other ethnic groups or the religious groups. Only the Turkmens who live there is what matters.

What a waste how we never pushed for Syrian Turkmens and Iraqi Turkmens to have their own nation. Imagine having both as our neighbours.

What a fcking waste im really fuming. Syria and Iraq are both failed nations. There was no point in trying to respect their territory when the countries themselves have collapsed.

 

[Azareen]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

May be very diplomatic do not want the world to know that turkey is calling all the shots in Syria, the Syrian government is independent, taking decisions, that way Turkey could legitimately get involved in Syria when and at Syrian government's request. Otherwise Kurds propaganda machine is at work portraying turkey as an occupational force and killing civilians and destroying infrastructure. He knows the negotiations is going to fail at one point as the sdf is very reluctant to dissolve, and integrate into Syrian army individually.