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[Lool]

1) No, actually. If you actually bothered to even slightly familiarize yourself with Ukrainian history and the over 20 year history of them putting up with corrupt politicians with ties to Russia screwing them over, you'd also be perfectly aware that this wasn't even the first time that Ukrainians have had to throw out a pro-Russian plant.

Who cares about that? This is something that the Ukrainians are having to deal with themselves! Why did the West enter into the arena of Ukriane in the first place?
Why are you acting as if the Western dream/utopia suddenly came from the sky after the 2014 coup? After the 2014 coup, the first democratic president was even more corrupt and when he was ousted in 2019, a jewish clown came to the position of power and literally drove more than a quarter of the able-bodied men to be buried forever and their families to weep with around 30%+ of Ukrainian territories and one of the most richest to be fully incorporated into Russia

I recommend that you start reading history from the time of the Soviet Union and the deal that they made with the Americans that clearly stipulated that NATO must NEVER encroach on Russia's borders.

What on earth was Zelensky thinking. That jewish clown must be one hell of a master strategist right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852163971501166661

And BTW, wanting to join NATO after getting invaded and having territory annexed and people murdered by Russia is not, in fact, illogical or evil.

With all due respect
Do you think Russia would allow Ukraine whose borders are literally within an airline distance of around 800 km to Moscow to join NATO? Have you gone insane? Do you know that some missiles can close that distance in less than a minute? Not even AD systems can react to that FFS! Russia is a superpower whether you like it or not and they wont sit doing nothing when there is a possibility of 0.0000001% of Ukraine joining NATO whether in 2014, 2019, or now

The reason why Russia annexed Crimea is to prevent Ukriane from joining NATO since NATO's most important target in Ukraine was crimea and Putin's annexation of it means that if Ukraine ever joined NATO it would mean a direct war with the US per NATO's rules. Putin's decision for Russia's security was perfectly on point

Bro,Turkey conducted a military operation in 2 different countries (Syria and Iraq) to remove Western-backed PKK and now you blame Russia for invading Ukraine? Preposterous and Hypocritical at best

And source on your Victoria Nuland claims and the Hollande claims, now, or kindly admit that you are pulling stuff out of your ass.

Here are the sources bro, on TV, through their own words

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1833017813616779275

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884612588941852929

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643714775317192707

2) So you are now claiming that the US supposedly funded Greece helping PKK (no proof presented as usual), that they supposedly hid Ocalan (and later also helped MIT capture him, weird huh) and completely dodged your earlier statement that the US created the PKK, presumably because you actually know that this isn't true and have no way to defend it so you just hoped we would forget it.

Oh please since poor old greece was sooooo rich and resourceful that they could recruit, set up bases, and train terrorists on warfare. If you truly believed this shit you said, then I have no remedy for you
Moreover, I never said that the US helped MIT catch Ocalan; what I said was who provided Ocalan with the air routes, idea and means to travel to Kenya and while he was departing to the Netherlands, he was caught by MIT
Why did he decide to go to the Netherlands in the first place? Didnt he know that Turkey was a NATO member and could ask for his extradition? Or was he sure that there was an entity there that could protect him? What sort of entity could reject Turkey's request for extradition? Poor old Netherlands? No, it was and still is the only nation..... the United States of America

If you dont believe it, then dont but no nation gained the most from Turkey's injuries from PKK other than the US. NO nation profited from this fiasco that went on for nearly 30 years other than the US. It wasnt little Greece and never will be

Finally ending it with Kissinger's own words

You sure are an interesting individual saying things like that combined with your weird obsession with shitting on every Turkish opposition party while playing the "I'm totally against AKP, honest" game.

This has no relation to our current arguement, but fine here you go
Iam shitting on every Turkish opposition party because they are factually shit and incompetent
They couldnt win against a president whose tenure suffered an earthquake disaster that killed 50,000 turks literally 3-4 months prior to an election and a lira that was close to worthless whether the fault was with the CHP, AKP, or both.
Iam talking about an opposition whose members like Ozdag who criticises AKP for (reportedly) releasing Ocalan only to indirectly support another party that will undoubtedly release Ocalan.
Iam talking about an opposition that criticises the govt for electing close family members in positions of power yet they themselves are doing the exact same shit and ended up playing a part in the death of 78 people in the recent Bolu fire; some of whom were Turks..... in other words, Turks were burned to their death because of incompetence on all sides
Iam talking about an opposition that promotes LGBT bullshit that will surely force future generations of Turkey to be mentally and physically destroyed

 

[Anastasius]

@Lool

Who cares about that? This is something that the Ukrainians are having to deal with themselves! Why did the West enter into the arena of Ukriane in the first place?
Why are you acting as if the Western dream/utopia suddenly came from the sky after the 2014 coup?

Ah, trying more bait-and-switch. So now it's going from "US planned the coup" to "why did the West get involved after Russia started screwing over Ukraine".

After the 2014 coup, the first democratic president was even more corrupt and when he was ousted in 2019

Yeah, that's how it works. If Ukraine has shitty leaders, it throws them out. Difference is that Russia is the only one that invaded them after Ukraine had the gall to throw out one of "their" guys.

a jewish clown came to the position of power and literally drove more than a quarter of the able-bodied men to be buried forever and their families to weep with around 30%+ of Ukrainian territories and one of the most richest to be fully incorporated into Russia

I didn't know Zelensky was the one that ordered the Russian army to invade Ukraine.

I recommend that you start reading history from the time of the Soviet Union and the deal that they made with the Americans that clearly stipulated that NATO must NEVER encroach on Russia's borders.

I read it, I know about it and it's a myth. Gorbachev had two conditions - 1) no NATO troops on east German soil until the last USSR soldier left and b) no nuclear weapons on German soil. That's it. There was never any "no expanding NATO" condition and Russia knows it. What some random politician who was a teenager at the time says is irrelevant in regards to what is ACTUALLY documented.

Here are the sources bro, on TV, through their own words

If you listened to what Nuland actually said, you'd notice that there was no "convincing Ukraine to decline peace". What she actually said is that the proposed peace deal forbade Ukraine from acquiring defensive weapons, allowed Russia to keep everything it had occupied since the beginning of 2022 and have no limits on what they could deploy militarily and people pointed out that this was a shit deal.

The ceasefire stalling for time - yes, Russia was building up its army, so was Ukraine. Difference is Russia was doing it to prepare for invading Ukraine (and it did), Ukraine did it to defend against Russian invasion (which it ended up having to do).

But hey, at least the Hollande video is actually saying what you claimed. Would be more helpful without the Russian dubbing blocking the French speech since it makes it impossible to tell for sure, especially coming from a Russian propaganda Twitter channel.

Oh please since poor old greece was sooooo rich and resourceful that they could recruit, set up bases, and train terrorists on warfare.

Giving basic training to terrorists doesn't require grandiose funding. Borderline bankrupt countries manage it all the time. US not required.

Moreover, I never said that the US helped MIT catch Ocalan

I said it because it stands in contradiction to your statement that they supposedly helped him escape Turkish justice. Reading comprehension is important.

Why did he decide to go to the Netherlands in the first place? Didnt he know that Turkey was a NATO member and could ask for his extradition? Or was he sure that there was an entity there that could protect him? What sort of entity could reject Turkey's request for extradition? Poor old Netherlands?

He didn't exactly openly advertise his stay in the Netherlands and yes, Netherlands can, as a sovereign entity, deny Turkey's request for extradition. No US needed.

If you dont believe it, then dont but no nation gained the most from Turkey's injuries from PKK other than the US.

Yeah because there is no other country in the world that gave support to PKK that gained even more. No sir. And it's not like Greece has a personal beef with Turkey, no sir.

Iam shitting on every Turkish opposition party because they are factually shit and incompetent

You are ONLY ever shitting on Turkish opposition parties while outright ignoring or even trying to defend what AKP does. You aren't even subtle, it's really obvious every time someone posts something horrible AKP has done and you proceed to post something shitting on CHP or whatever almost immediately afterwards, which doesn't even have to be factual BTW.

 

[Lool]

@Lool

Ah, trying more bait-and-switch. So now it's going from "US planned the coup" to "why did the West get involved after Russia started screwing over Ukraine".

This is no bait and switch! It is either you cant understand or dont want to understand to keep believing your fantasy
Again it is the West that plotted that coup in 2014 and I clearly stated why did the West even got involved in Ukraine's matter in the first place

Yeah, that's how it works. If Ukraine has shitty leaders, it throws them out. Difference is that Russia is the only one that invaded them after Ukraine had the gall to throw out one of "their" guys.

Sure that theory is applicable when you have a "true" democracy and not a sham planned by the West
Idk what is hard to cmprehend about "the first democratic leader was even more corrupt than his predecessor dictators and was replaced, in 2019, with an even worse candidate that drove his country into a losing war that ending up not only crippling Ukraine's people but also giving strategic lands and resources to Russia

I didn't know Zelensky was the one that ordered the Russian army to invade Ukraine.

No it wasnt but as I said
Russia is a superpower, whether you like it or not, and they wont stay quiet when a pre-Russian satellite state has a 0.0000001% chance of joining NATO whose borders has an air-distance that is only 800 km from Moscow
In such conditions, democratic leaders supposedly should have a brain to not get involved in fights you cant win. There is a concept called "balancing politics" and I urge you to look it up

I read it, I know about it and it's a myth. Gorbachev had two conditions - 1) no NATO troops on east German soil until the last USSR soldier left and b) no nuclear weapons on German soil. That's it. There was never any "no expanding NATO" condition and Russia knows it. What some random politician who was a teenager at the time says is irrelevant in regards to what is ACTUALLY documented.

It wasnt documeted but that doesnt mean that it wasnt said

If you listened to what Nuland actually said, you'd notice that there was no "convincing Ukraine to decline peace". What she actually said is that the proposed peace deal forbade Ukraine from acquiring defensive weapons, allowed Russia to keep everything it had occupied since the beginning of 2022 and have no limits on what they could deploy militarily and people pointed out that this was a shit deal.

Well duh, because Russia is the stronger side ffs
Do you people even know about the concept known as DIPLOMACY or is it only applicable when it is in favour of the West? Do you expect a nation like the US and lets say, Congo for example, to negotiate on equal terms?
The deal stated that no buffer zone is to be applied to Russia so that it can act if Ukriane ever started to think about joining NATO again and as a sign of goodwill, Putin retreated from Kyiv and will go back to MINSK agreement lines. If this agreement was signed, lots of rich resources, and lands, would still be within Zelensky's hands

And please tell me who told Zelensky, a presumable clown who knows nothing about politics, to continue this war? His generals who reportedly were involved when the deal was signed and said it was the best possible deal currently available? Or did the devil came and whispered into his ear or something?

After the deal was signed, Victoria Nulland told Boris Jhonson to go and reject the deal or there would be no more support from the West in case of peace with Russia which made Zelensky paranoid

Allow me to end it with the words of Georgian Prime minister who saw what happened in Ukraine and learned to not repeat the mistake of the jewish clown Zelensky. He is someone who is playing the filthy game and 100% knows more than both me and you

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885420568146792684

The ceasefire stalling for time - yes, Russia was building up its army, so was Ukraine. Difference is Russia was doing it to prepare for invading Ukraine (and it did), Ukraine did it to defend against Russian invasion (which it ended up having to do).

Hahahahahaha
Russia was the one stalling for time? Bro you gone mad?
If Russia wanted to annex it, they would have done that 10-20 years ago but they didnt.... care to explain why? Did Russia need 2 decades to rearm and invade Ukraine or did Ukraine need those years after the Minsk agreement to rearm for a potential conflict against Russia?

Invading Ukraine now had become harder for Russia and this means that the one who benefited the most from the agreement was Ukraine and this means that there was a plan behind the scenes to quickly rearm the state while Russia didnt re-arm that much even after the MINSK agreement. So who was planning for the future here?

Just because some points arent clearly stipulated, doesnt mean that you cant read between the lines mate

Giving basic training to terrorists doesn't require grandiose funding. Borderline bankrupt countries manage it all the time. US not required.

I said it because it stands in contradiction to your statement that they supposedly helped him escape Turkish justice. Reading comprehension is important.

He didn't exactly openly advertise his stay in the Netherlands and yes, Netherlands can, as a sovereign entity, deny Turkey's request for extradition. No US needed.

Yeah because there is no other country in the world that gave support to PKK that gained even more. No sir. And it's not like Greece has a personal beef with Turkey, no sir.

Greece has a personal beef with Turkey, I wont deny that
But even I will admit they arent that smart tbh since if they had the ingenuity, means, and finances of training such terrorists, they could have risen way higher in the global arena than they are rn

Are wa talking about the same army and nation? Because I cant believe that this nation trained and equipped the PKK to be this efficient, cunning, and lethal

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1701225163486789679

You are ONLY ever shitting on Turkish opposition parties while outright ignoring or even trying to defend what AKP does. You aren't even subtle, it's really obvious every time someone posts something horrible AKP has done and you proceed to post something shitting on CHP or whatever almost immediately afterwards, which doesn't even have to be factual BTW.

No need to be subtle because we all know how corrupt the AKP is but the opposition trying to act as saints while they are just as corrupt is different
Just look at the recent events about opposition member Imamoglu, who was sent to testify in court due to his threatening statements and he DID offer a formal APOLOGY to all whom he threatened; in other words, he knew he was in the wrong and yet played out a wide scale drama to gain votes
If they are this corrupt now what will they do when they gain a higher power; this is the question to be asked

 

[blackjack]

People keep shitposting this all-over social media everywhere from twitter to 4chan

Is there an any accuracy to this picture?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

People keep shitposting this all-over social media everywhere from twitter to 4chan
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Is there an any accuracy to this picture?

Unfortunately, very accurate!

 

[Lool]

He didn't exactly openly advertise his stay in the Netherlands and yes, Netherlands can, as a sovereign entity, deny Turkey's request for extradition. No US needed.

You didnt get my point it seems
Will Netherlands ever risk destroying relations with Turkey just for one man who wont give the Netherlands any value mentioned? Netherlands have good relations with Turkey and no disagreements either (like Greece, Germany, or France). Thus, it would be the epitome of foolishness to protect Ocalan unless he has plans to just use the Netherlands as a transit point to the US or the Netherlands can hide behind an entity that Turkey cant say "NO" to and honestly only one nation fits the criteria

Another proof for my belief that the US has some sort of hand in creating the PKK and financing, training as well as providing info and connections to Ocalan is his statements that he just released yesterday

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885264649504841776

In this post, Ocalan stated and I quote:
"If Turkey does not prepare itself for a solution, Syria, Iraq, Iran and international powers have many plans in the future, he said. There is also the possibility of declaring a state there."

So this arise the questions:
How does Ocalan know of such powers when he was jailed since 1999? Which international power can have plans that force any divisions within Turkey? Is it Greece, France, or Germany? No! They arent that strong nor they have the authority to do that since only one nation fits the bill.... that is the US!
Couple that with the question of how did Ocalan manage to escape from the govt and go to kenya, who instructed him? Why kenya out of all nations? Maybe because the Kenyan president at the time, Daniel arap Moi, was a staunch pro-Western leader at that time? What about his plans to escape to West.... I mean why Europe when he knows that Turkey and EU are NATO allies? Probably because he knows that someone there is willing to protect him?

This has similarity with the FETO incident in which the FETO leader escaped to the US in order to get protected from Turkey and when Turkey asked for his extradition, the US said NO! and Turkey couldnt do shit

The one common trait, we can observe, with these Western-made terrorists is that they always escape back to their masters for protection when their plans fails or usage ends. Other leaders like Khalifa Haftar of Libya fits the bill as well

That is why I believe that the US had a hand in creating the PKK. It may have started as a peaceful protest/opposition group at the time but I can bet my money's worth that the US planned to turn such an entity to a terrorist organisation in the first place and no nation is as good as the US when it comes to such shenanigans

 

[Lool]

Omg
That would be a massive news

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885610515440804153

 

[Sanchez]

Thus, it would be the epitome of foolishness to protect Ocalan

You are speaking on hypotheticals when we have the history to look to. After Turkey threatened war with Syria over Syria's basing of PKK and Öcalan, he first moved to Russia where he was granted asylum. He was invited by Greek MPs to Greece, but chose to go to Italy instead. Both Germany and Turkey had arrest warrants on him and Germans requested that he be given to them, but Germany was unwilling to trial him in Germany, they wanted a 3rd unrelated European country, fearing from the Kurdish diaspora in Germany. Italy denied Turkey's extradition request citing UNCAT and Turkey having death penalty. So he was sent back to Russia to get themselves rid of him, who sent him back to Greece. Dutch didn't accept him so he went back to Greece, from which he went to Kenya. He was later apprehended in a Greek intelligence fiasco by a joint team of MİT and CIA in Nairobi. Americans were right there with us, some say it was Americans that handled all the operation and just handed him to us, though this is without any proofs.

What I'm trying to say is that plenty of countries, allied countries in fact did help Öcalan against us.

How does Ocalan know of such powers when he was jailed since 1999?

He reads.

This has similarity with the FETO incident in which the FETO leader escaped to the US in order to get protected from Turkey

Gülen didn't "escape" Turkey. He cited his health reasons to board a plane to US and never came back.

 

[Anastasius]

@Lool

This is no bait and switch! It is either you cant understand or dont want to understand to keep believing your fantasy

Bro, you literally changed your claim on the fly.

Sure that theory is applicable when you have a "true" democracy and not a sham planned by the West

And what exactly makes Ukraine's democracy "a sham planned by the West"? Your imagination?

Idk what is hard to cmprehend about "the first democratic leader was even more corrupt than his predecessor dictators and was replaced, in 2019, with an even worse candidate that drove his country into a losing war that ending up not only crippling Ukraine's people but also giving strategic lands and resources to Russia

Oh I don't know, maybe because it's total nonsense? Not even debatable nonsense but straight-up nonsense.

Russia is a superpower, whether you like it or not, and they wont stay quiet when a pre-Russian satellite state has a 0.0000001% chance of joining NATO whose borders has an air-distance that is only 800 km from Moscow

Russia is a corrupt hellhole not a superpower and Ukraine shouldn't be forced to cripple itself because it makes Russia mad otherwise.

In such conditions, democratic leaders supposedly should have a brain to not get involved in fights you cant win.

And like I said, I didn't know Zelensky forced Russia to attack Ukraine in 2022.

It wasnt documeted but that doesnt mean that it wasnt said

This is so absurdly stupid I won't even dignify it with a response.

Well duh, because Russia is the stronger side ffs

Oh, well surely you'd be totally OK with your much-hated US invading Albania and then Albanians just taking it like little bitches because, well, US is the stronger side after all.

The deal stated that no buffer zone is to be applied to Russia so that it can act if Ukriane ever started to think about joining NATO again and as a sign of goodwill, Putin retreated from Kyiv and will go back to MINSK agreement lines.

No the deal said that Russia keeps everything it has acquired and can continue to arm itself further while Ukraine might as well disarm itself.

And please tell me who told Zelensky, a presumable clown who knows nothing about politics, to continue this war?

Him and his advisors and generals? You call him a clown yet he is a "clown" that I'd wager has way more knowledge about geopolitics than you and I. You are like a dude harping on about the freaking Illuminati and Knights Templars to explain every little thing in politics.

Allow me to end it with the words of Georgian Prime minister who saw what happened in Ukraine and learned to not repeat the mistake of the jewish clown Zelensky.

AHAHAHAHA, are you seriously gonna cite an actual pro-Russian mouthpiece? This is not me exaggerating BTW, him and his party are literally in the pockets of Russia. The average Georgian hates this MF like you wouldn't believe.

Russia was the one stalling for time?

Yes. You're the one who keeps accusing me of not understanding geopolitics, you clearly don't understand timing and seizing the opportune moment.

Are wa talking about the same army and nation? Because I cant believe that this nation trained and equipped the PKK to be this efficient, cunning, and lethal

Greece did something stupid? So? US army also does a lot of stupid things yet you wouldn't want to pick a fight with them. And again you're trying to move away from the topic. I did not say the US does not support PKK today. I said that the US did not create the PKK (and it is true) and Greece didn't need to have the eeeevil US whispering in their ear to provide support to the PKK on their own. It's getting really annoying how you keep trying this bait-and-switch crap. Stop it.

No need to be subtle because we all know how corrupt the AKP is but the opposition trying to act as saints while they are just as corrupt is different

Address my question. Why are you immediately posting about "le CHP bad" or someone else bad whenever anyone posts something bad that the AKP did?

Will Netherlands ever risk destroying relations with Turkey just for one man who wont give the Netherlands any value mentioned?

Do we know he did not offer Netherlands any value? Do we know that the Netherlands were even aware he was hiding there?

Netherlands have good relations with Turkey

Totally, let's just look at some recent history...oh, wait.

Thus, it would be the epitome of foolishness to protect Ocalan unless he has plans to just use the Netherlands as a transit point to the US or the Netherlands can hide behind an entity that Turkey cant say "NO" to and honestly only one nation fits the criteria

So once again, you have no actual solid evidence, just your own personal beliefs (or talking points given to you) that you keep pushing like the absolute truth.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

I dont think that the TAF will remain silent if the IDF bomb HTS and SNA.

Yesterday the IDF killed 3 Turkish nationals at the Lebanese border for example. They are provoking us.

bro you can't even conduct operations against pkk in syria because of USA what makes you think we are going to bomb IDF stop being delusional.

 

[Barry]

just another mental islamist

 

[AlperTunga]

You are speaking on hypotheticals when we have the history to look to. After Turkey threatened war with Syria over Syria's basing of PKK and Öcalan, he first moved to Russia where he was granted asylum. He was invited by Greek MPs to Greece, but chose to go to Italy instead. Both Germany and Turkey had arrest warrants on him and Germans requested that he be given to them, but Germany was unwilling to trial him in Germany, they wanted a 3rd unrelated European country, fearing from the Kurdish diaspora in Germany. Italy denied Turkey's extradition request citing UNCAT and Turkey having death penalty. So he was sent back to Russia to get themselves rid of him, who sent him back to Greece. Dutch didn't accept him so he went back to Greece, from which he went to Kenya. He was later apprehended in a Greek intelligence fiasco by a joint team of MİT and CIA in Nairobi. Americans were right there with us, some say it was Americans that handled all the operation and just handed him to us, though this is without any proofs.

What I'm trying to say is that plenty of countries, allied countries in fact did help Öcalan against us.


He reads.

Gülen didn't "escape" Turkey. He cited his health reasons to board a plane to US and never came back.

Speaking of Gülen I remember how our gov was begging US to deliver him. They were openly complaining that they provided US tons of evidence documents but US not listening. Such a disgrace. I was dreaming of a strong Türkiye that would send an undercover execution team to Pennsylvania and „liquidate“ the traitor. That would be a country to die for. Yes maybe that team would have been martyred. But the message given to the whole world would be so strong people would think twice before they act against us.

 

[Ryder]

Speaking of Gülen I remember how our gov was begging US to deliver him. They were openly complaining that they provided US tons of evidence documents but US not listening. Such a disgrace. I was dreaming of a strong Türkiye that would send an undercover execution team to Pennsylvania and „liquidate“ the traitor. That would be a country to die for. Yes maybe that team would have been martyred. But the message given to the whole world would be so strong people would think twice before they act against us.

I think Akp and co were too much of pussies to send a contract killer. Turkiye sent a lot of contract killers to liquidate asala and pkk terrorists. Erdogan would not even think of doing it.

Then again werent Erdogan and co bed buddies with Feto.

They could not take out their spiritual leader.

 

[MhhJA]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

 

[Lool]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

Hts backstabbed Turkey; nothing more or less
A president like Al-Joulani is still wet behind the ears and think that negotiations will solve everything and that all factions care about Syria; he still cant comprehend that the SDF/PKK is nothing more than a terrorist organisation and you dont negotiate with terrorists

Those filths want a pseudo-state and even a portion of the oil reserves; if a mere 4% of the population gets what they want, then expect the Druze and Alawites to announce their own pseudo-state as well

Why do you think Israel invaded Syria at this very moment, one of the reasons including protecting the Druze in case they announced their independece and if the druze and kurds broke from Syria, then the shia alawites will 100% break as well

Finally, the US isnt likely to retreat from Syria even if Trump wants that as Natenyahu, pentagon officials, and deep state zionist filths reject such a notion in the first place. As time passes, a turkish victory against the PKK seems bleak

 

[Ryder]

Thank you Erdogan for the peace process.

You may have achieved Pkk withdrawing from Turkiye but instead strengthened its position in Syria and Iraq.

Now all the politicians regardless of party are all cucking themselves to a certain voterbase.

I thought military was bad due to the coups they do now I realised why do it.

Democracy shouldnt be a reason to committ treason on your own country.

Rough road ahead because the pkk is backed by Usa and the Zionists. The operations have long past because the people who leads Turkiye got no balls.

 

[Ryder]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

Everytime a operation is postponed.

Cowards of the highest order.

Somebody really does have Erdogan by the balls. If he does something his dirty work will be exposed.

 

[Ryder]

Hts backstabbed Turkey; nothing more or less
A president like Al-Joulani is still wet behind the ears and think that negotiations will solve everything and that all factions care about Syria; he still cant comprehend that the SDF/PKK is nothing more than a terrorist organisation and you dont negotiate with terrorists

Those filths want a pseudo-state and even a portion of the oil reserves; if a mere 4% of the population gets what they want, then expect the Druze and Alawites to announce their own pseudo-state as well

Why do you think Israel invaded Syria at this very moment, one of the reasons including protecting the Druze in case they announced their independece and if the druze and kurds broke from Syria, then the shia alawites will 100% break as well

Finally, the US isnt likely to retreat from Syria even if Trump wants that as Natenyahu, pentagon officials, and deep state zionist filths reject such a notion in the first place. As time passes, a turkish victory against the PKK seems bleak

Turkiye spent decades trying to respect Iraq and Syria's territory.

What a waste. I could careless about about the other ethnic groups or the religious groups. Only the Turkmens who live there is what matters.

What a waste how we never pushed for Syrian Turkmens and Iraqi Turkmens to have their own nation. Imagine having both as our neighbours.

What a fcking waste im really fuming. Syria and Iraq are both failed nations. There was no point in trying to respect their territory when the countries themselves have collapsed.

 

[Azareen]

So we postponed the operation...
Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886493299835285863

May be very diplomatic do not want the world to know that turkey is calling all the shots in Syria, the Syrian government is independent, taking decisions, that way Turkey could legitimately get involved in Syria when and at Syrian government's request. Otherwise Kurds propaganda machine is at work portraying turkey as an occupational force and killing civilians and destroying infrastructure. He knows the negotiations is going to fail at one point as the sdf is very reluctant to dissolve, and integrate into Syrian army individually.

 

[Tonil]

Hts backstabbed Turkey; nothing more or less
A president like Al-Joulani is still wet behind the ears and think that negotiations will solve everything and that all factions care about Syria; he still cant comprehend that the SDF/PKK is nothing more than a terrorist organisation and you dont negotiate with terrorists

Those filths want a pseudo-state and even a portion of the oil reserves; if a mere 4% of the population gets what they want, then expect the Druze and Alawites to announce their own pseudo-state as well

Why do you think Israel invaded Syria at this very moment, one of the reasons including protecting the Druze in case they announced their independece and if the druze and kurds broke from Syria, then the shia alawites will 100% break as well

Finally, the US isnt likely to retreat from Syria even if Trump wants that as Natenyahu, pentagon officials, and deep state zionist filths reject such a notion in the first place. As time passes, a turkish victory against the PKK seems bleak

This is exaggeration he only postponed it. Meaning if the Kurds refuse everything materializes but it looks like as if the Kurds have agreed to the bigger points to automatically lay down their weapons.