TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[No Name]

Nope, it's maximum speed is 1.8 mach

I have been seeing the number Mach 2 all over the place, what makes you say Mach 1.8 is their maximum speed?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Akşit:

"Right now, we are working at full speed. The number of our engineers who solely works for the engine of the TFX National Combat Aircraft has exceeded 200 since last year. Although the official tender process for the design of the National Combat Aircraft has not been completed, we have started to develop i. TEI-TF6000 and TEI-TF10000 engines are a step on the way to the engine of the National Combat Aircraft. Some of our team manages the TEI-TF6000 process. Parts production continues. We had problems in the supply of some of the accessories. They will affect the calendar a little. If there is no mishap, we aim to start our engine in late summer or autumn. We will run this engine so that we will see how well the design we made here works. We have built the TEI-TF6000 engine as a kind of technology acquisition engine."

Milli Muharip Uçak için yerli motor üretiminin önünü açacak TEI-TF6000 bu yıl çalıştırılacak

TEI Genel Müdürü Prof. Dr. Akşit "Motorlarımız, Milli Muharip Uçak'ın motorunun Türkiye'de yapılabilmesi için çok önemli bir adım. Ekibimize ciddi özgüven kazandırdı. Artık, Milli Muharip Uçak'ın motorunu Türkiye'de yapabileceğimizi biliyoruz." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[No Name]

This means that the Chinese aircraft, like the F35, will perform most of its mission by flying around 1,2 mach. J-21 will rarely go up to mach 1,8. There is no problem there. Or there is no such thing as not caring.

I meant to say they accepted the trade-off that is to come with the decision to have DSI.

 

[boredaf]

I have been seeing the number Mach 2 all over the place, what makes you say Mach 1.8 is their maximum speed?

China's first stealth fighter for aircraft carriers is emerging, but a big problem still weighs it down

A model jet spotted on a fake aircraft carrier is the latest hint about what China's navy might have planned for its carrier air wings.

www.businessinsider.com

"The US Navy's main fighters, the F-35C and the F/A-18E, both have a top speed of Mach 1.6, while the FC-31 is reportedly capable of reaching speeds as fast as Mach 1.8. (The F-35C is limited to operation on just one US carrier.)"

You can also check, you know, wikipedia. Where have you seen that mentions mach 2?

 

[No Name]

China's first stealth fighter for aircraft carriers is emerging, but a big problem still weighs it down

A model jet spotted on a fake aircraft carrier is the latest hint about what China's navy might have planned for its carrier air wings.

www.businessinsider.com

"The US Navy's main fighters, the F-35C and the F/A-18E, both have a top speed of Mach 1.6, while the FC-31 is reportedly capable of reaching speeds as fast as Mach 1.8. (The F-35C is limited to operation on just one US carrier.)"

You can also check, you know, wikipedia. Where have you seen that mentions mach 2?

We were talking about different jets; you were talking about FC-31, while I was talking about the J-20.

 

[boredaf]

We were talking about different jets; you were talking about FC-31, while I was talking about the J-20.

No we're not, J-21 is the name given to this plane by people, not it's official name. FC-31 is J-21, it has also been called J-35.

China’s future carrier-borne stealth fighter J-35 images emerge

New images of one of the J-35 prototypes have appeared on Chinese social networks, evidence that the development program continues to advance at a good pace.

www.aviacionline.com

"According to information provided by AVIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China), the J-31/FC-31 has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 28 metric tons, an operational ceiling of 15 kilometers and a maximum speed of Mach 1.8, or 2,205 kilometers per hour, with an estimated range of 2,000 kms."

 

[No Name]

No we're not, J-21 is the name given to this plane by people, not it's official name. FC-31 is J-21, it has also been called J-35.

China’s future carrier-borne stealth fighter J-35 images emerge

New images of one of the J-35 prototypes have appeared on Chinese social networks, evidence that the development program continues to advance at a good pace.

www.aviacionline.com

"According to information provided by AVIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China), the J-31/FC-31 has a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 28 metric tons, an operational ceiling of 15 kilometers and a maximum speed of Mach 1.8, or 2,205 kilometers per hour, with an estimated range of 2,000 kms."

chengdu j-20 mighty dragon​

 

[boredaf]

chengdu j-20 mighty dragon​

Mate, you said J-21 in your own post.

but the Chinese J-21 does over Mach 2 and it has them.

 

[No Name]

Mate, you said J-21 in your own post.

your right. I did it by mistake. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Era_shield]

but the Chinese J-20 does over Mach 2 and it has them.

Either it works at much reduced efficiency near those speeds (or at low mach speeds), or more likely the spec is just a lie, as is the case with most Chinese products.

 

[Afif]

, or more likely the spec is just a lie, as is the case with most Chinese products.

It is indeed a misconception for people who are usually far away from China, But never mind.

 

[Lool]

I don't know if you noticed, TFX has no HUD display. I guess the HUD screen will be reflected on the pilot helmet developed by Aselsan, as in the F-35.

In this respect, the TF-X is a different aircraft from the J-20 and SU-57.

It is a sin to compare it to junks like the Su-57 and the J-20

 

[Afif]

It is a sin to compare it to junks like the Su-57 and the J-20

J-20 isn't junk buddy.

TFX probably would be better and only second to US 5th platforms in its class.

But there is no point to bash others to assert TFX's superiority.

 

[MADDOG]

 

[DBdev]

A stealth interceptor/air superiority fighter with 100+kW 2000+ modules GaN LPIR loaded with 200+ km range ramjet Gokhan missiles should give pause to anyone including Su-57, F-35, J-20 and even F-22. I am most curious about it's actual RCS & max altitude. F-22 with 65.000 feet could have a great advantage against TF-X with only 55.000 feet planned ceiling.

 

[Afif]

100+kW 2000+ modules GaN

100+KW T/R modules???

LPIR

That my friend, you will require alien tech to make 100+KW module AESA LPI against 5th gen EW suites like ALR-94 or ASQ-239.

Beside, TFX's AESA would have around 2000 T/R modules. Do you realized how much power would be needed for 100+KW modules?

RCS & max altitude.

Iirc, TurAF requiment was for TFX to be low observable. I don't know if they exceeded the requirement.

F-22 with 65.000 feet could have a great advantage against TF-X with only 55.000 feet planned ceiling.

With the inductions of Gokhan it wouldn't matter that much if opponent flies higher.

 

[Xenon54]

I don't know if you noticed, TFX has no HUD display. I guess the HUD screen will be reflected on the pilot helmet developed by Aselsan, as in the F-35.

In this respect, the TF-X is a different aircraft from the J-20 and SU-57.

This is just the first prototype that barely made the first slow taxi testing, tonns of avionics arent even installed either because they are still in development or the engineers didnt have time to do so yet.
It will take another 10 years from here to see a fully matured prototype close to serial production, people need to chill with the conclusions based on this prototype.
I would bet that there will be so much difference between this and last prototype that those will look like completely different planes.

 

[MADDOG]

We might've found the mysterious helmet

EDIT: NOPE...

EDIT 2:

 

[AzeriTank]

We might've found the mysterious helmet

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EDIT: NOPE...

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from Elbit systems? wow

 

[KAAN]

A stealth interceptor/air superiority fighter with 100+kW 2000+ modules GaN LPIR loaded with 200+ km range ramjet Gokhan missiles should give pause to anyone including Su-57, F-35, J-20 and even F-22. I am most curious about it's actual RCS & max altitude. F-22 with 65.000 feet could have a great advantage against TF-X with only 55.000 feet planned ceiling.

The TF-X's service ceiling has been updated from 55,000 feet to 60,000 feet for the first prototype, possibly domestic engines producing more power will allow 65,000 feet