TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Sanchez]

How beautiful is the Air SOJ plane in the back if my elf eyes don't see wrong .

Would love to see it looking not so clean, with antennas sticking out from every surface imaginable ,

Does KAAN have Air to air refuling , i cant see it ? or will be in next prototypes ?

I think we can safely say production variants will have standard receptacle for booms. Old art also feature it.

 

[moz68k]

TEI must have downed an alien plane to copy their alien tech or something.

G.O.R.A. tech

 

[Barry]

Via SST

İsmail Demir, CAT-1 pilots and ground personnel.



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First time I've actually seen a picture of him. Disney should contact him so they continue to have Stan Lee cameos in Marvel movies.

 

[UkroTurk]

"The first 20 KAAN MMU/TF-X Aircraft will be delivered to HvKK in 2028 in Block 10 configuration and with the GE product F110-GE-129E TF Engine......"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1653355586505900035

Judging by the wording, looks like even if TEI gets the license to build F110-129Es in house or not, first 20 will still be powered by the GE engines.

This engine is with afterburner or without? İ don't know how to write .


AFAIK 5th gen fighters must have different type of engine.


Edit: super Cruise

"The ability to cruise at speeds of one and a half times the speed of sound or greater without the use of afterburner for extended periods in combat configuration."



Supercruise is sustained supersonic flight of a supersonic aircraft without using afterburner (also known as "reheat"). Many supersonic military aircraft are not capable of supercruise and can only maintain Mach 1+ flight in short bursts with afterburners.


Does GE's engine enable MMU having super Cruise?

Supercruise - Wikipedia

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Fifth-generation fighter - Wikipedia

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[Yasar_TR]

This engine is with afterburner or without? İ don't know how to write . AFAIK 5th gen fighters must have different type of engine.


Edit: super Cruise

Supercruise is sustained supersonic flight of a supersonic aircraft without using afterburner (also known as "reheat"). Many supersonic military aircraft are not capable of supercruise and can only maintain Mach 1+ flight in short bursts with afterburners.


Does GE engine have super Cruise?

Supercruise - Wikipedia

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Fifth-generation fighter - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

35000lbf thrust is achieved with afterburners.
Dry thrust(without afterburners) should be around 26000lbf if it is synonymous to a F119 engine.
Supercruise is 1+ Mach speed without afterburners. But US defines it as 1.5 Mach without afterburners.
To achieve this our plane will need engines not less than 24000lbf thrust each in dry mode.

 

[Yasar_TR]

So does it make MMU KAAN Supercruiser?

With a TF35000 it will.
Unofficially F22 has been recorded to achieve 1.8 Mach supercruise speeds with it’s (35000lbf wet) 26000lbf dry thrust F119 engine.

 

[Rodeo]

35000lbf thrust is achieved with afterburners.
Dry thrust(without afterburners) should be around 26000lbf if it is synonymous to a F119 engine.

Where does this 35000lbf figure come from? Are we using it as a placeholder or is TEI's target for the engine to produce that much thrust? Some suggest that its max thrust will be min 35000 lbf. Today, for example, @Avionot claimed that TEI is aiming for 38000lbf.

What is the latest, if any, official announcement for engine's wet thrust?

 

[Afif]

Where does this 35000lbf figure come from? Are we using it as a placeholder or is TEI's target for the engine to produce that much thrust? Some suggest that its max thrust will be min 35000 lbf. Today, for example, @Avionot claimed that TEI is aiming for 38000lbf.

What is the latest, if any, official announcement for engine's wet thrust?

38000lbf is probably emergency thrust. 35000lbf is the normal limit.

 

[UkroTurk]

With a TF35000 it will.
Unofficially F22 has been recorded to achieve 1.8 Mach supercruise speeds with it’s (35000lbf wet) 26000lbf dry thrust F119 engine.

F110's Dry thrust: 16,610 lbf thus GE's engines don't enable KAAN to have sustained supersonic speed without afterburners.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Where does this 35000lbf figure come from? Are we using it as a placeholder or is TEI's target for the engine to produce that much thrust? Some suggest that its max thrust will be min 35000 lbf. Today, for example, @Avionot claimed that TEI is aiming for 38000lbf.

What is the latest, if any, official announcement for engine's wet thrust?

It is Dr Aksit who mentioned it. He said we could produce an engine like f119 that powers f22 at TEI.
He stated that TFX will need an engine that will develop a thrust level of 35000lbf with afterburners.
F119 has a wet thrust of 35000lbf and a dry thrust of 26000lbf.

 

[UkroTurk]

I hope KAAN Gen 1 with GE engine could sustain mach 1.1/1.2 Supercruise without afterburners somehow.

Will the F-35 ever get full supercruise capability?

Answer (1 of 7): Of course not, it would require a complete redesign of the aircraft to achieve it. Supercruise is not something that can be patched onto most designs after years of development, it needs to be a part of the design from the very start. The F-35 did not include that as a requireme...

www.quora.com

 

[MADDOG]

TAI KAAN

 

[hoz]

TAI KAAN

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The canopy + nose + wing resemble the head of a bird. Why is the canopy so high? For better view from inside? Aerodynamics must have been sacrificed.

 

[hoz]

Kaan very much resembles F22, especially from top view.
I would like to make a size comparision.
F22 overall (LxWxH) dimensions are: 18.9 x 13.6 x 5.1 m
What are the dimensions for Kaan?

 

[MADDOG]

The canopy + nose + wing resemble the head of a bird. Why is the canopy so high? For better view from inside? Aerodynamics must have been sacrificed.

You can't get to such a conclusion.

Kaan very much resembles F22, especially from top view.
I would like to make a size comparision.
F22 overall (LxWxH) dimensions are: 18.9 x 13.6 x 5.1 m
What are the dimensions for Kaan?

Dimensions are unclear. It is around 20-21 meters in length.

 

[boredaf]

The canopy + nose + wing resemble the head of a bird. Why is the canopy so high? For better view from inside? Aerodynamics must have been sacrificed.

What makes you say that?

 

[Huelague]

TAI KAAN

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In TAI promotion video, they praised Kaan as an agile. Now, they say, they are not.

 

[Radko]

In TAI promotion video, they praised Kaan as an agile. Now, they say, they are not.

?

 

[MADDOG]

In TAI promotion video, they praised Kaan as an agile. Now, they say, they are not.

KAAN will be incredibly agile, if that's your concern. Outmaneuvering an F-16 is no easy task...

 

[Saithan]

100 F110 is planned to be bought from GE. There are ongoing negotiations to produce them in TEI at least some of them under GE license. 40 KAAN block 10 is planned to be delivered and it is planned to switch to the national engine starting from 41. fighter(block 20). 100 engines are enough for 40 KAAN+prototypes+spare engines. If the F-16 block 70 project is given a go the number of engines might be increased to 150.

Any chance that every other engine being produced at TEI's facilities to avoid having the first batches be produced in US or elsewhere. Thus avoiding any bottlenecks where US throws dirt into the proces.