TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Khagan1923]

It that official art from TAI?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1999722641679327360

Probably not.

 

[hugh]

It that official art from TAI?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1999722641679327360

Not real, AI.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1999378173591433626

 

[Umigami]

Not real, AI.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1999378173591433626

You sure?

 

[hugh]

You sure?

Just take a look at the platforms in the image. They each look absurd. Can't you tell?

 

[Ripley]

You sure?

It’s just a publicity poster for an expo

 

[Zafer]

Isn't it kind of become smaller?

Budget cuts happen all the time; down to 20.1m from 21m

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Budget cuts happen all the time; down to 20.1m from 21m

That has nothing to do with budgets.
It was stated from the beginning that the end design will end up being smaller in size. Which is an advantage for stealth aircraft and a show of the capabilities of squeezing all the equipment in there.
Lighter weight, more compact, and lower RCS.

 

[Zafer]

That has nothing to do with budgets.
It was stated from the beginning that the end design will end up being smaller in size. Which is an advantage for stealth aircraft and a show of the capabilities of squeezing all the equipment in there.
Lighter weight, more compact, and lower RCS.

I wasn't serious about the budget cut, I just used it as the only plausible excuse, feigning ignorance, you normally want a big plane carrying big loads.

 

[hugh]

considering P1 is scheduled to fly in April, should we expect it to roll out this month?

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

We should use the current US-EU situation to draw in EU customers. Of course, there will need to be a delicate balance not to piss off the US too much when we still rely on them for engines.

 

[boredaf]

We should use the current US-EU situation to draw in EU customers. Of course, there will need to be a delicate balance not to piss off the US too much when we still rely on them for engines.

No country in Europe would even look at Kaan until TF35K is ready and has flown. Even then it would be a very tough sell for majority of them (not that majority of them would be interested in it) because there is an inherit push against anything and everything when it comes to us. And younger lads might not remember but it isn't just because of the current government either (they haven't helped with it either, mind you), they can go tomorrow and most of the issues would still remain.

I can't see anyone but maybe Spain and Portugal being interested, unless there is a massive fallout with the US and F-35 supply/support chain, even then, only if no reliable alternatives are available at all.

 

[Sanchez]

Major General Rashed Mohamed Abdulla Al Shamsi, Commander of the United Arab Emirates Air Force

No, thanks!

 

[TR_123456]

Major General Rashed Mohamed Abdulla Al Shamsi, Commander of the United Arab Emirates Air Force

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Was this today?

 

[Zafer]

I had predicted 48 Kaan for UAE, firm decisions can be made after the initial flight tests this year.

 

[mehmed beg]

KAAN is projected to go into the serial production in about 4 years.
Of course with the help of European defense companies, KAAN wouldn't have any problems with the engines, testing of the systems, weapons and avionics. Besides it could be a lot cheaper.
Of course, the most logical thing for Europeans would to get, let's say just 150 to 200 aircrafts till European next generation of planes fly. Moreover, they can use it as experience and have Turkiye cooperate in the future projects
Years saved and probably 20bn.
I am not holding my breath , though.

 

[Sanchez]

KAAN wouldn't have any problems with the engines

There's no equivalent European engine to F110, and definitely not TF35000.

It was us that rejected RR's deal, not the other way around.

 

[Huelague]

No, thanks!

Why?

 

[Oublious]

I had predicted 48 Kaan for UAE, firm decisions can be made after the initial flight tests this year.

Trojon horse.....

 

[Sanchez]

Why?

With Emiratis as a user, there's a non zero chance that Kaan will be used against us. It happened in the past with other stuff we sold. There are simply untrustworthy and do not deserve Kaan with all its capabilities.

Four Emirati F-16s to arrive in Souda Air Base | eKathimerini.com

Four F-16 fighter jets of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) will be delployed at the Souda Air Base in Crete in the next few hours, following Thursday’s call between the head of the Greek Armed Forces and his Emirati counterpart.

www.ekathimerini.com

 

[Zafer]

With Emiratis as a user, there's a non zero chance that Kaan will be used against us. It happened in the past with other stuff we sold. There are simply untrustworthy and do not deserve Kaan with all its capabilities.

Four Emirati F-16s to arrive in Souda Air Base | eKathimerini.com

Four F-16 fighter jets of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) will be delployed at the Souda Air Base in Crete in the next few hours, following Thursday’s call between the head of the Greek Armed Forces and his Emirati counterpart.

www.ekathimerini.com

They will buy from someone else and be their slaves, we don't want that. You can take precautions to prevent smart weapons from being used against us allowing only defensive use of the weapons. We may as well embed our professionals in the UAE as overseeing consultants making sure unwanted hands never touch our systems.