TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2052384039747662250

Uğur Zengin stated that in addition to the current production capacity, a new production area is planned that will be able to produce 24 KAANs per year.

Doesn't the current on max out at 24 per year? So they plan on a maximum production capacity of 48 per year, guess the other 24 would be reserved for exports?

Guess they either expect massive export orders or already have verbal "agreements".

 

[Pokemonte13]

Doesn't the current on max out at 24 per year? So they plan on a maximum production capacity of 48 per year, guess the other 24 would be reserved for exports?

Guess they either expect massive export orders or already have verbal "agreements".

In their dreams

 

[Zafer]

Current production capacity is 6-9 Kaan copies and 24 to be added totaling 30-33 per year, tweeted today.

 

[Huelague]

In their dreams

T.Kotil said , we can increase the capacity of 4 planes per month.

 

[photon vish]

I know it wrong thread but i am curious

India has planned to add astra mk2/3 on ghatak ucav(fkying wing stealthy like anca 3)

So whats about turkish anca 3 and kizlema ??
Current kaan can carry 6 bvr and 2 wvr missile.

Ghatak planned to can carry around 4-6 astra mk2/3

How many gokhan missile can anca 3 or kizlema can carry(obv internally)

And can kizlema can carry additional wvr lile kaan ?? Or it has only central weapon bay ?

And whats about next gen version if kizlema and anca 3 ??

 

[Zafer]

I know it wrong thread but i am curious

India has planned to add astra mk2/3 on ghatak ucav(fkying wing stealthy like anca 3)

So whats about turkish anca 3 and kizlema ??
Current kaan can carry 6 bvr and 2 wvr missile.

Ghatak planned to can carry around 4-6 astra mk2/3

How many gokhan missile can anca 3 or kizlema can carry(obv internally)

And can kizlema can carry additional wvr lile kaan ?? Or it has only central weapon bay ?

And whats about next gen version if kizlema and anca 3 ??

We are so tight-lipped we won't tell anyone even if we knew.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Lol, asif knowing how many missiles u can carry is state secret.

Every one knows that f22 can carry 6 bvr + wvr , f35(except b) can carry 6 bvr , b2 can carry 2 gbu 57 and b21 can carry 1

Are now these system weaker ??

Even china revels details

U people are aching like pakistani who believes that these info do something bad

Any govt will have nore info that u , its us civilian who have lack of info

But i can guess too :
Current kizlema: if internal weapon bay(which i foubt is) max 4 bvr(most prob 2)

Anka 3: most prob 4

Now i guess anka 3 and kizlema are less effective right ?

The joke went right over your head here

 

[boredaf]

T.Kotil said , we can increase the capacity of 4 planes per month.

Temel Kotil talked a lot of shite.

 

[photon vish]

The joke went right over your head here

I was expecting a serious and informed reply and not a joke

Anyways i have models iwb of turkish jets with the global info

But i was curious as in Wikipedia, the numbers are way to high , like it does not make sens that a 6.5 tonn anka 3 has 1.2-1.6 tonn iwb payload with 8 munitions capability (even if uts mk82, does not it makes 2 tonn which is impossible as even ghatak ucav which is 13tonn is only have 1.5 tonn iwb capacity)

 

[photon vish]

I was expecting a serious and informed reply and not a joke

Anyways i have models iwb of turkish jets with the global info

But i was curious as in Wikipedia, the numbers are way to high , like it does not make sens that a 6.5 tonn anka 3 has 1.2-1.6 tonn iwb payload with 8 munitions capability (even if uts mk82, does not it makes 2 tonn which is impossible as even ghatak ucav which is 13tonn is only have 1.5 tonn iwb capacity)

And btw why turkish weapon always have very unreasonable specifications ?

I still remeber a 1 tonn bunker buster bombs with 7m of c50 Penetration capability and 90m of rock and earth while gbu 57 has only 60m of earth Penetration

May u people tell me(not trolling but u people gives such specifications which are laughable) how u people achieved 90m of Penetration with 1 tonn bombs while usa only achieved 60meter with 14 tonn bomb

U people have some alian tech for bunker buster ??

The real joke is turkish weapon specifications, i dont have any faith on published info , they all seems cheap and stupid propoganda by erdogan to satisfy his voters

Thats why i came here , to know actuals info , neither propoganda nor jokes

 

[Pokemonte13]

And btw why turkish weapon always have very unreasonable specifications ?

I still remeber a 1 tonn bunker buster bombs with 7m of c50 Penetration capability and 90m of rock and earth while gbu 57 has only 60m of earth Penetration

May u people tell me(not trolling but u people gives such specifications which are laughable) how u people achieved 90m of Penetration with 1 tonn bombs while usa only achieved 60meter with 14 tonn bomb

U people have some alian tech for bunker buster ??

The real joke is turkish weapon specifications, i dont have any faith on published info , they all seems cheap and stupid propoganda by erdogan to satisfy his voters

Thats why i came here , to know actuals info , neither propoganda nor jokes

You mean the neb 2 Hayaleta. I mean we at least saw some test footage from it penetrating the beton. Overall most of specification given to us are reasonable and sometimes even worse than they actually are. Maybe you have some examples?

 

[Zafer]

Gonna be a long journey. Fingers crossed.

I have mapped out the long journey but the map got deleted before saying that it is absurd, like they had to.

 

[photon vish]

You mean the neb 2 Hayaleta. I mean we at least saw some test footage from it penetrating the beton. Overall most of specification given to us are reasonable and sometimes even worse than they actually are. Maybe you have some examples?

So tell me how a 1 tonn penetrator can pentrate 30% more(90 meter) than 14 tonn american gpu 57(60 meter)

Isn't it unrealistic ??

And where did they shows that it went 90 meter ??

If a 1 tonn can go 90 meter with 200kg explosive then who need 14 tonn gbu 57 which can only go 60(although with over 2 tonn explosive) and requires 2 billion b2 stealth bomber to drop it

 

[Pokemonte13]

So tell me how a 1 tonn penetrator can pentrate 30% more(90 meter) than 14 tonn american gpu 57(60 meter)

Isn't it unrealistic ??

And where did they shows that it went 90 meter ??

If a 1 tonn can go 90 meter with 200kg explosive then who need 14 tonn gbu 57 which can only go 60(although with over 2 tonn explosive) and requires 2 billion b2 stealth bomber to drop it

I can’t but most of the time the data we got were credible. Do you know exactly how the penetration works exactly in either of these bombs?

 

[Pokemonte13]

I was expecting a serious and informed reply and not a joke

Anyways i have models iwb of turkish jets with the global info

But i was curious as in Wikipedia, the numbers are way to high , like it does not make sens that a 6.5 tonn anka 3 has 1.2-1.6 tonn iwb payload with 8 munitions capability (even if uts mk82, does not it makes 2 tonn which is impossible as even ghatak ucav which is 13tonn is only have 1.5 tonn iwb capacity)

Anka 3 IWB could maybe have a limit at 1.4 tons (weight of two tolun smart rack with four toluns) and that 1.7 tons is the maximum payload for all 6 stations

 

[begturan]

And btw why turkish weapon always have very unreasonable specifications ?

I still remeber a 1 tonn bunker buster bombs with 7m of c50 Penetration capability and 90m of rock and earth while gbu 57 has only 60m of earth Penetration

May u people tell me(not trolling but u people gives such specifications which are laughable) how u people achieved 90m of Penetration with 1 tonn bombs while usa only achieved 60meter with 14 tonn bomb

U people have some alian tech for bunker buster ??

The real joke is turkish weapon specifications, i dont have any faith on published info , they all seems cheap and stupid propoganda by erdogan to satisfy his voters

Thats why i came here , to know actuals info , neither propoganda nor jokes

Actually, this isn't something that's only recently happened; many of our weapon systems have had unusually wide ranges over the years. For example, when the Kalkan radar was first produced, they said its range was 40 km, then it was updated to 80, then 120, and so on.

We've seen the range of many of our smart munitions increase over time; for example, the Hisar O went from 20 km to 40 km.

We're witnessing very small smart bombs like the MAM L and MAM C turning main battle tanks into scrap metal. The explosive effect of our very small warhead. mortars, bombs, or missiles is far superior to their counterparts.

In fact, many things are kept secret, but they eventually come to light. The Hayalet bomb was produced many years ago, but we only learned about it much later. Generally, when countries like Israel, America, or tiny Greece signal a military operation against Türkiye, Türkiye shares these secret technologies with the public. This kind of technological demonstration prevents our enemies from making a foolish move.

In summary, Türkiye's rocket/missile fuel technology, explosives technology, and high-tech sensors perform better than their counterparts worldwide. Because no one has ever spoken about it, it remains a secret.

 

[NEKO]

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Kaan league is shaping up

Does spain require ITAR free KAAN.

 

[Zafer]

Does spain require ITAR free KAAN.

I have no idea, it is not made public yet. If they are not in a hurry they may go for it, if it ever happens.

 

[photon vish]

Actually, this isn't something that's only recently happened; many of our weapon systems have had unusually wide ranges over the years. For example, when the Kalkan radar was first produced, they said its range was 40 km, then it was updated to 80, then 120, and so on.

We've seen the range of many of our smart munitions increase over time; for example, the Hisar O went from 20 km to 40 km.

We're witnessing very small smart bombs like the MAM L and MAM C turning main battle tanks into scrap metal. The explosive effect of our very small warhead. mortars, bombs, or missiles is far superior to their counterparts.

In fact, many things are kept secret, but they eventually come to light. The Hayalet bomb was produced many years ago, but we only learned about it much later. Generally, when countries like Israel, America, or tiny Greece signal a military operation against Türkiye, Türkiye shares these secret technologies with the public. This kind of technological demonstration prevents our enemies from making a foolish move.

In summary, Türkiye's rocket/missile fuel technology, explosives technology, and high-tech sensors perform better than their counterparts worldwide. Because no one has ever spoken about it, it remains a secret.

Still better than 14tonn gpu 57 is too much. I can expect it to be better than gbu 28(its 2.3 tonn), but better than gpi 57 is not possible

For it to have , u have to make extremely high streagth materials, atkeast 10x more powerful than used in gpu 57 with similar weight and then some sort of rocket propulsion to orovide enough momentum

-> Penetration works with huge momentum and strong casing with dekayed fuse obv

Gpu 57 needs to drop with 12km high with 14 tonn weight so that it can pentrate 60m of earth

For turkish oentrator, it need to have supersonic speed with 10× stronger casing to go 90m

 

[photon vish]

I can’t but most of the time the data we got were credible. Do you know exactly how the penetration works exactly in either of these bombs?

-> Penetration works with huge momentum and strong casing with dekayed fuse obv



Gpu 57 needs to drop with 12km high with 14 tonn weight so that it can pentrate 60m of earth(Use earth pull and weight to generate enough momentum


For turkish oentrator, it need to have supersonic speed with over 10× stronger casing to go 90m