The Party That Failed - An Insider Breaks With Beijing

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When Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, I was full of hope for China. As a professor at the prestigious school that educates top leaders in the Chinese Communist Party, I knew enough about history to conclude that it was past time for China to open up its political system. After a decade of stagnation, the CCP needed reform more than ever, and Xi, who had hinted at his proclivity for change, seemed like the man to lead it.

By then, I was midway through a decades-long process of grappling with China’s official ideology, even as I was responsible for indoctrinating officials in it. Once a fervent Marxist, I had parted ways with Marxism and increasingly looked to Western thought for answers to China’s problems. Once a proud defender of official policy, I had begun to make the case for liberalization. Once a loyal member of the CCP, I was secretly harboring doubts about the sincerity of its beliefs and its concern for the Chinese people.

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A good read @Joe Shearer @VCheng @Madokafc @#comcom @T-123456

Kudos to @Paro for bringing to my attention.

Parts of it tie quite nicely with my upcoming China series.
 

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When Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, I was full of hope for China. As a professor at the prestigious school that educates top leaders in the Chinese Communist Party, I knew enough about history to conclude that it was past time for China to open up its political system. After a decade of stagnation, the CCP needed reform more than ever, and Xi, who had hinted at his proclivity for change, seemed like the man to lead it.

By then, I was midway through a decades-long process of grappling with China’s official ideology, even as I was responsible for indoctrinating officials in it. Once a fervent Marxist, I had parted ways with Marxism and increasingly looked to Western thought for answers to China’s problems. Once a proud defender of official policy, I had begun to make the case for liberalization. Once a loyal member of the CCP, I was secretly harboring doubts about the sincerity of its beliefs and its concern for the Chinese people.

(More at link)

A good read @Joe Shearer @VCheng @Madokafc @#comcom @T-123456

Kudos to @Paro for bringing to my attention.

Parts of it tie quite nicely with my upcoming China series.


The current CCP is different beast from their predecessor, just like i said at other forum before, Xi is not fit to lead China and for whatever reason what he did today had let down China foreign policy greatly. Even Chairman Mao and Deng had called for CCP to hold back what had Made China to suffer the last Century of humiliation, Their Imperialist ambition and Middle Kingdom attitude! Xi instead steering China toward such roads and situation where many of their direct neighbour seems wary and some even confront them directly.
 

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When Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, I was full of hope for China.
Your hope or Chinese people's hope, he is a Chinese leady only responsible for the Chinese dreams and ambitions, he enjoys good approval rate in China.
 

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Long-term survey reveals Chinese government satisfaction


July 9, 2020

Ash Center research team unveils findings from long-term public opinion survey

Understanding what Chinese citizens think about their own government has proven elusive to scholars, policymakers, and businesspeople alike outside of the country. Opinion polling in China is heavily scrutinized by the government, with foreign polling firms prohibited from directly conducting surveys.

Given China’s global rise in the economic, military, and diplomatic spheres, understanding public opinion there has arguably never been more important.

A new study from the Ash Center fills in this gap for the first time, providing a long-term view of how Chinese citizens view their government at the national, as well as the regional and local levels. What started as an exercise in building a set of teaching tools for an executive education class eventually transformed into the longest academic survey of Chinese public opinion conducted by a research institution outside of China.

“Gathering reliable, long-term opinion survey data from across the country is a real obstacle,” said Ash Center China Programs Director Edward Cunningham. “Rigorous and objective opinion polling is something that we take for granted in the U.S.”

While important work in this area has been accomplished by previous scholars — and their work shaped the analysis of the survey data collected — those other surveys were often short-term or infrequent.


For Tony Saich, Daewoo Professor of International Affairs and director of the Ash Center, the quest to build a firmer understanding of Chinese public opinion has taken the better part of 15 years. It began with an attempt to develop a suite of curricular materials to inform a course on local government in China.

“We thought it would be helpful to know how satisfied citizens were with different levels of government, and in particular how satisfied they were with different kinds of government services,” said Saich.

The work began in 2003, and together with a leading private research and polling company in China, the team developed a series of questionnaires for in-person interviews. The surveys were conducted in eight waves from 2003 through 2016, and captured opinion data from 32,000 individual respondents.

“There’s nothing comparable done on this scale, over such a long period of time, and over a large geographic area,” said Jesse Turiel, a China public policy postdoctoral fellow and co-author who worked closely with Saich and Cunningham on the project’s analysis and subsequent publications.

The survey team set out to assess overall satisfaction levels with government among respondents from across the socioeconomic and geographic strata of China. “It is always a challenge to obtain a representative sample of the Chinese population, particularly from interior provinces,” said Turiel. “Our survey does not include migrant laborers, for example. But given the fact that the survey conducted in-person interviews with over 3,000 respondents per year in a purposive stratified sample, we are happy that the results include not just the coastal elites or large urban areas, but also poorer and less developed inland provinces.”

Levels of government and public opinion
The survey team found that compared to public opinion patterns in the U.S., in China there was very high satisfaction with the central government. In 2016, the last year the survey was conducted, 95.5 percent of respondents were either “relatively satisfied” or “highly satisfied” with Beijing. In contrast to these findings, Gallup reported in January of this year that their latest polling on U.S. citizen satisfaction with the American federal government revealed only 38 percent of respondents were satisfied with the federal government.

For the survey team, there are a number of possible explanations for why Chinese respondents view the central government in Beijing so favorably. According to Saich, a few factors include the proximity of central government from rural citizens, as well as highly positive news proliferated throughout the country.

This result supports the findings of more recent shorter-term surveys in China, and reinforces long-held patterns of citizens reporting local grievances to Beijing in hopes of central government action. “I think citizens often hear that the central government has introduced a raft of new policies, then get frustrated when they don’t always see the results of such policy proclamations, but they think it must be because of malfeasance or foot-dragging by the local government,” said Saich.


Compared to the relatively high satisfaction rates with Beijing, respondents held considerably less favorable views toward local government. At the township level, the lowest level of government surveyed, only 11.3 percent of respondents reported that they were “very satisfied.”

Again, the U.S. reveals quite a different story. “American trust surveys over time show a clear distinction between low levels of trust towards the federal government, but a strong belief and faith in the power of local government — at the most local level, those positions may be filled by part-time volunteers who are a part of your everyday life,” said Cunningham. This dichotomy is highlighted by a 2017 Gallup poll, where 70 percent of U.S. respondents had a “great” or “fair” amount of trust in local government.

Saich contends that the lack of trust in local governments in China is due to the fact that they provide the vast majority of services to the Chinese people. This trust deficit was compounded by the 1994 tax reforms, which garnered a substantially larger share of total national tax revenues for the central government. Local governments, despite being faced with declining revenues, were still on the hook for providing the bulk of public services throughout China.

“Local governments were caught between dropping tax revenue and rising expenditures,” Cunningham said. “Many local governments then had to turn to ad-hoc extra budgetary fees to close the budget gap. I think that has consistently undermined trust at the local level.”

Regional disparities
The research team was also keen to examine disparities in the responses of wealthy, predominantly urban and coastal areas of China and those of less developed interior provinces. “It didn’t surprise us that the wealthy coastal citizens who were the winners of globalization in many ways, and the winners of China’s domestic reform program, had a very high favorability rate of government overall, regardless of level of government examined,” said Cunningham.

The responses from survey participants in rural areas, however, surprised the researchers, particularly over time. “We did not anticipate how quickly both low-income citizens and people from less-developed regions in China closed the satisfaction gap with high-income citizens and people from the coastal areas,” Cunningham added.

The surveys found that rural residents, generally poorer than those in cities, had more optimistic attitudes about inequality than their wealthier urban counterparts. The team’s analysis ties the closing of this satisfaction gap between rich and poor, as well as coastal and hinterland populations, to several policies including local budget spent on healthcare, welfare and education, and paved roads per capita.

“We tend to forget that for many in China, and in their lived experience of the past four decades, each day was better than the next.”
— Tony Saich, Daewoo Professor of International Affairs and director of the Ash Center

Saich added that the findings “run counter to the general idea that these people are marginalized and disfavored by policies,” and therefore undermine the persistent notion that rising inequality, and dissatisfaction with corruption and local government, have created the potential for widespread unrest in China.

Observers have long predicted that China’s slowing economic growth coupled with a complacent, ineffective government bureaucracy could ultimately lead to the crumbling of Beijing’s political authority. While frustration with corruption and the quality of public services at the local level clearly exists, the Ash research team’s work has shown that the current political system in China appears remarkably resilient.

Inequality remains a key concern for policymakers and citizens alike in China, but the survey project found little to support the argument that those concerns among ordinary Chinese are translating into broader dissatisfaction with government. The final round of the survey in 2016 revealed that about one-third of respondents were much more likely to lodge complaints with the government or protest if they felt that air pollution had negatively impacted their own health or the health of their immediate family members.

Although state censorship and propaganda are widespread in China, these findings highlight that citizen perceptions of governmental performance respond most to real, measurable changes in individuals’ material well-being. Satisfaction and support must be consistently reinforced. As a result, the data point to specific areas in which citizen satisfaction could decline in today’s era of slowing economic growth and continued environmental degradation.

For Cunningham, it’s important not to forget that many in China are only a generation removed from an era of chronic food shortages and significant social and economic instability. “Relative perspective is always important, as China is still a developing country,” he said.

“We tend to forget that for many in China, and in their lived experience of the past four decades, each day was better than the next,” Saich added. “Our surveys show that many in China therefore seem to be much more satisfied with government performance over time, despite rising inequality, corruption, and a range of other pressures that are the result of the reform era.”

 

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Most people in China believe corruption falling, says Transparency International
China remains 80th in global index, but survey suggests Xi Jinping’s eight-year drive to root out corruption is having an effect on perceptions
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Almost two thirds of people in China believe corruption has decreased in their country in the past year, with more than 80% saying the government has done a good job in combatting it, a new report has said.

The report from Transparency International was based on surveys of almost 20,000 people across 17 Asian countries, asking about their perceptions of, and experiences with, corruption in the past 12 months.

It found almost one in five respondents across Asia – or about 886 million people – reported paying a bribe or using personal connections to access services. The most likely service to involve bribery was the police, followed by the courts.

“Surprisingly, while most citizens consider corruption a big problem in their countries, they still voice positive support for the actions taken,” the report said.

China’s president, Xi Jinping, took office in 2012 pledging to drive out corruption and subsequently launched an unprecedented campaign to weed out “tigers and flies”.

Xi’s anti-corruption campaign has seen the investigation and punishment of millions of officials, as well as accusations that it has been used to get rid of political opponents.


It has had little effect on China’s place in Transparency International’s global corruption index – the country ranked 80th in 2020, and consistently scores around 40/100. However, it appears to have encouraged the general population, 84% of whom told Transparency International the government was doing well in tackling corruption.

In Beijing, an IT business owner named Chen told the Guardian he felt government officials were “much more well behaved than before”, and believed the improvements were due to internal government reporting systems.

The positive findings from China, as well as similar reports from Cambodia and the Philippines, went against a general trend across Asia, where 66% of people thought corruption had worsened or stayed the same .

Almost three in four respondents believed corruption remained a major problem, and only in Myanmar (50%) and Cambodia (30%) did half of respondents or less think that wasn’t the case. Respondents from Cambodia also believed corruption had decreased, but also reported one of the highest rates of bribery.

Nepal and Thailand had the highest rate of people who believed corruption was on the rise – 58% and 55% respectively. In Thailand, the vast majority of respondents – seven in 10 – said they had little or no trust in the government of Prayuth Chan-ocha.

Prayuth, a former army general, first took power in a 2014 coup, stating such action was needed to stamp out corruption and restore order. Yet his government has been dogged by allegations of abuse of power.

Anger over corruption is one of the drivers behind the escalating pro-democracy protests that have shaken Thailand for more than four months. High-profile scandals – such as the mishandling of a hit-and-run case involving the heir to the Red Bull fortune – have reinforced a perception that members of the country’s powerful establishment are free to act with impunity. Protesters argue that no one should be above the law – not even King Maha Vajiralongkorn, who is protected by harsh defamation laws.

Among members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean), Thailand fared worst for citizens’ trust in institutions such as the government, the courts and the police.

Transparency Internationals’s report also found 24% of people across the 17 Asian nations who had paid bribes said they did so because they were asked, while another 30% believed they wouldn’t have received service without using personal connections.

“This suggests that people are paying bribes to speed up essential services, highlighting red tape and inefficient bureaucracy, while pushing those without the means at their disposal to the back of the queue,” the report said.

Kevin, an IT worker in Hangzhou, China, told the Guardian there were fewer opportunities for graft now, but “in the past, regular people complained that it took money to deal with their citizen affairs”.

Thai respondents – as well as Malaysian and Indonesian – were among the most likely to report that they, or someone they knew, had experienced extortion when accessing a government service.

 

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Why you should support China in one chart – China accounts for 78% of the world reduction of the number living in poverty​

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The greatest problem facing the overwhelming majority of the people living in the world is inadequate incomes and poverty.

This is literally a life and death question. A person living in a low income country by World Bank standards lives only 62 years compared to 81 years in a high income economy – a difference of 19 years. In addition to living a far shorter life a person living in poverty faces few real choices.

For this reason by far the greatest contribution to world human well-being is by China. As shown in the chart below since 1981 China has lifted 853 million people out of poverty – 78% of the reduction of the number of people living in poverty in the world.

China has lifted over seven times as many people out of poverty as India, over seven times as many people out of poverty as Indonesia, over 20 as many people out of poverty as Latin America, and 85 times as many people out of poverty as sub-Saharan Africa.The lives of those 852 million people have been vastly improved and their real choices in life greatly widened. This has contributed far more to humanity’s well being than the absurd Western definition of human rights.


Ask a normal human in China to chose whether they would rather live in poverty but have the right to use Facebook (except if they are in real poverty they can’t afford a computer!), or they can be taken out of poverty but not be able to use Facebook, and you will soon fine out why the West’s definition of ‘human rights’ is a huge joke.

And the same applies to the population of other developing countries. Ask someone whether it is more important to live 19 years longer, or be able to use Facebook, and you will again see why the Western definition of human rights is a farce!

Some people want to discuss if China is capitalist or socialist. That is a useful theoretical discussion. It is rather easily settled by noting that if it was capitalism which took people out of poverty the great reduction in poverty would have taken place in all capitalist countries – not in socialist China. But even those who wrongly believe China is capitalist should recognise that its achievements in reduction of poverty make it superior to any Western capitalist model.

And some in the Western left want to oppose China or belittle its achievements. They merely show they are out of touch with what socialism really means – which is the improvement of the lives of ordinary human beings.

China has lifted more people out of poverty than the entire population of the European Union and more people than the entire continent of Latin America. The poverty reduction in other countries is dwarfed by what has been achieved in China. The left throughout the entire world should be celebrating this most gigantic of all contributions to human well-being made by China. And they should seek to learnt from the economic model that has delivered such a gigantic improvement in humanity’s well being.

You can seen in that one chart on the reduction of world poverty why China should be supported!

 

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China's GDP growth in the history under different leaders
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When Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, I was full of hope for China. As a professor at the prestigious school that educates top leaders in the Chinese Communist Party, I knew enough about history to conclude that it was past time for China to open up its political system. After a decade of stagnation, the CCP needed reform more than ever, and Xi, who had hinted at his proclivity for change, seemed like the man to lead it.

By then, I was midway through a decades-long process of grappling with China’s official ideology, even as I was responsible for indoctrinating officials in it. Once a fervent Marxist, I had parted ways with Marxism and increasingly looked to Western thought for answers to China’s problems. Once a proud defender of official policy, I had begun to make the case for liberalization. Once a loyal member of the CCP, I was secretly harboring doubts about the sincerity of its beliefs and its concern for the Chinese people.

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A good read @Joe Shearer @VCheng @Madokafc @#comcom @T-123456

Kudos to @Paro for bringing to my attention.

Parts of it tie quite nicely with my upcoming China series.

I couldn’t have put it in a better way. That was pretty harsh even for my standards.
 
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The current CCP is different beast from their predecessor, just like i said at other forum before, Xi is not fit to lead China and for whatever reason what he did today had let down China foreign policy greatly. Even Chairman Mao and Deng had called for CCP to hold back what had Made China to suffer the last Century of humiliation, Their Imperialist ambition and Middle Kingdom attitude! Xi instead steering China toward such roads and situation where many of their direct neighbour seems wary and some even confront them directly.

Yep I agree. Mao himself was complicated fellow who contradicted himself multiple times (I will explore him bit more next year)...probably the toughest guy ever in history to give one soundbite.

Right now though China has brawn in modern era like it never has had, so definitely everyone will contrast reality with the "peaecful rise" talk. There is literally no way for CCP to get called out inside...and everything foreign policy related can be oriented with this in mind (as Xi has tapped into like no other). This is effectively a political party biggest comfiest existence in known history.

Psychologically, IMO part of it is entrenched a lot due to a unique soft -power system within China regarding their language itself (which I will also go into later) which has a bureaucratic/statist history in many ways regarding its shaping and evolution. It can be used to great effect on the Chinese themselves if you learn one of their tongues, and take deep keen interest in its history....as very few Chinese (esp supremacist type) study that genuinely, yet you can confront them with their own history. It is quite delectable thing to do...but not many people really learn it, everyone prefer to treat China like the stark foreboding monolith the CCP (esp under Xi) presents it as.

The language itself is also extremely analytical and learned very very differently to any language in world....topped off by a character system and its seeming deliberate complexities (compared to alphabet) that the average Chinese person will never learn completely (in fact not even close, but it has functionality given frequency of just a subset). This has connection to the internal administration and society of China that most people do not really understand (you have to interact with them in their language on their terms to get it)...how it shapes their thinking w.r.t foreigners etc. They apply certain things from inside assuming the outside is the exact same. A lot of the underlying mistranslation and misapplication thus happens in context of outsiders.

CPSU never had it anywhere close to this good, they actually in thick of cold war had that deep break with Stalin legacy internally....and thus that field (polye) was sown and salted in varying measure going forward...and we saw what happened eventually after a big stasis set in.

My concern is not only Xi but if next leader tries to "Out-Xi" Xi. It depends on how world takes stock this decade and responds to Xi himself to set the red lines correctly. This cannot be allowed to set in and grow more....the world has enough mighty egos as it is....but most of them are at least put through something of a laundry frequently enough.
 

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Your hope or Chinese people's hope, he is a Chinese leady only responsible for the Chinese dreams and ambitions, he enjoys good approval rate in China.

Its ok you can continue with your typical HONK HONK klaxon.... thinking that helps with anything you are trying to argue here.

You are case in point for lot of what I'm saying. Double down on what you do in tone-deaf way....and then get triggered when people cringe at that.

We are used to criticizing our countries, people, society and definitely political parties and leaders. It is what it is, we think different.
 

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Its ok you can continue with your typical HONK HONK klaxon.... thinking that helps with anything you are trying to argue here.

You are case in point for lot of what I'm saying. Double down on what you do in tone-deaf way....and then get triggered when people cringe at that.

We are used to criticizing our countries, people, society and definitely political parties and leaders. It is what it is, we think different.
Unlike the west, who "condemns", other countries around world on various issues which don't make them happy every day, badmouthing others is not part of China's job, China has her hands full developing her own country, having no time to find faults and pick fights with other.
I believe we accept constructive criticism which we don't see much coming from the west, they only churn out anti China propaganda with obvious political agenda and destructive and baseless slanderings against China.
Chinese people are not stupid, we know who means good for China and who is only hell bent to contain us if not to destroy us.
 

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Unlike the west, who "condemns", other countries around world on various issues which don't make them happy every day, badmouthing others is not part of China's job, China has her hands full developing her own country, having no time to find faults and pick fights with other.
I believe we accept constructive criticism which we don't see much coming from the west, they only churn out anti China propaganda with obvious political agenda and destructive and baseless slanderings against China.
Chinese people are not stupid, we know who means good for China and who is only hell bent to contain us if not to destroy us.

Thing is all these other parties like the "West" you complain about all have significant power sections within them that call out their issues, concerns and mistakes...and often vote new govts to deal with them (then we debate how successful and unsuccesful they are on it).

They are credible on the matter at large here overall. PRC isn't....CCP definitely isn't. CCP literally occupies all the power and expects to be a credible "issue" spokesperson.

What do they (CCP) have to lose politically if they are right or wrong on something? Nothing. They just make both the right and wrong as a statist "right" in the end.

This is such a fundamental thing in the end for credibility for people that know better systems to air out these things.

CCP and PRC are also different to China....just so we are clear on that too.
 

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Thing is all these other parties like the "West" you complain about all have significant power sections within them that call out their issues, concerns and mistakes...and often vote new govts to deal with them (then we debate how successful and unsuccesful they are on it).

They are credible on the matter at large here overall. PRC isn't....CCP definitely isn't. CCP literally occupies all the power and expects to be a credible "issue" spokesperson.

What do they (CCP) have to lose politically if they are right or wrong on something? Nothing. They just make both the right and wrong as a statist "right" in the end.

This is such a fundamental thing in the end for credibility for people that know better systems to air out these things.

CCP and PRC are also different to China....just so we are clear on that too.
The western election is more of a popular contest than anything, incompetent leaders are elected into the office with little or no administrative experience, a random person on the street can be the top leader if enough money is put in to make him one.
All Chinese leaders barring from Mao, who founded PRC so being exempt, all went through a draconian selection system lasting for decades from the lowest level of administration based on merit and work performance. Chinese leaders are way more competent to western leaders in doing their government jobs.
It's true that you have more freedom of speech in the west, but that's a facade. western media is overwhelmingly controlled by interest groups which designed to brainwash people with biased mainstream reports, there might be some other voices but are totally drowned out and very few people can even access them by chance.
CCP is China, everyone knows it, but it's a Chinese political party and enjoys widely support by the Chinese people, why you, as an Indian , feel so upset?
 

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Even most foreigners, after living in China for a while, almost all developed a liking to the governance system here.

 

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