TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

[Saithan]

Please keep the price below 200.000 TL for cheapest model.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1343104329922830336

General evaluation of the last 1 year for TOGG

TOGG Senior Manager Gürcan Karakaş said, "When we enter the market, we will be facing C segment internal combustion SUV vehicles rather than electric vehicles. Therefore, we should be able to compete with them in terms of price."

TOGG fiyatıyla da içten yanmalı C-SUV'larla rekabet edecek

TOGG Üst Yöneticisi Gürcan Karakaş, "Pazara çıktığımızda karşımızda elektrikli araçtan çok C segmentindeki içten yanmalı SUV araçlar olacak. Dolayısıyla bizim fiyat açısından da onlarla rekabet edebiliyor olmamız lazım" dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[KKF 2.0]

Good thing they are not taking any chances trying to develop everything in house. It is more important to produce a decent final product that the customer likes than making it highly indigenous. Local input percentage will surely increase over time once domestic companies develop and produce decent amount of cells with good quality.

You are absolutely right on this.

Have a look at Hyundai's first car: https://m.haberturk.com/ekonomi/oto...yilinda-platformunu-forddan-alarak-yola-cikti


It's everything but Korean.

quality > indigenisation


You can always start local production once the right ecosystem has been created later on in the project. Winning customers with quality products is much more important in the beginning.

 

[KKF 2.0]

Hyundai Pony is South Korea's first mass-produced and exported automobile.

From Wikipedia:

When Hyundai wanted to develop their own car, they hired George Turnbull, the former managing director of Austin Morris at British Leyland in 1974.[2] He in turn hired five other top British car engineers, Kenneth Barnett as body designer, engineers John Simpson and Edward Chapman, John Crosthwaite as chassis engineer and Peter Slater as chief development engineer.[3][4] With Turnbull's experience with the Morris Marina, [5] engines and transmissions from Mitsubishi, some parts from the Ford Cortina they were already producing, and a hatchback body styled by Italdesign Giugiaro, they developed the Hyundai Pony.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Pony

In 1975, the Pony, the first South Korean car, was released, with styling by Giorgio Giugiaro of ItalDesign and powertrain technology provided by Japan's Mitsubishi Motors. Exports began in the following year to Ecuador and soon thereafter to the Benelux countries. Hyundai entered the British market in 1982, selling 2993 cars in their first year there.[17]

In 1984, Hyundai began exporting the Pony to Canada, but not to the United States, as the Pony would not pass emissions standards there. Canadian sales greatly exceeded expectations, and it was at one point the top-selling car on the Canadian market. In 1985, the one millionth Hyundai car was built.[18]

Hyundai Motor Company - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Combat-Master]

TOGG, or Turkey's Automotive Joint Venture Group Inc. (Turkish: Türkiye'nin Otomobili Girişim Grubu A.Ş.) is a Turkish automotive company founded as a joint venture in 2018. Anadolu Group, BMC Turkey, Kök Group, Turkcell and Zorlu Holding are major stakeholders under the umbrella group.

The ground breaking ceremony for the factory in Gemlik was held on 18 July 2020.

The two models of the TOGG Turkish national car unveiled in December 2019 are both all-electric vehicles with 300 km and 500 km range options. Both cars will have an 8-year battery warranty and level 2 autonomous driving assistance.

Name	Type	Announcement	Expected release	Engine
TOGG (SUV)	C-segment SUV	27 December 2019	by 2022	Electric
TOGG (Sedan)	C-segment Sedan	27 December 2019	by 2024	Electric
TOGG Hatchback	C-segment hatchback	27 December 2019	by 2030	Electric
TOGG Compact-SUV	B-segment SUV	27 December 2019	by 2030	Electric
TOGG MPV	B- segment MPV	27 December 2019	by 2030	Electric

Togg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Togg

www.togg.com.tr

 

[Combat-Master]

TOGG partners with Farasis for li-ion battery production in Turkey​

Turkey's Automobile Joint Venture Group (TOGG), which is producing the country’s first fully indigenous electric car, signed a letter of intent with leading lithium-ion (li-ion) battery producing company Farasis Energy for the production and use of battery cells in the full range of TOGG products, the company said in a press release Tuesday.

According to the agreement, battery cells will be provided by Farasis and the battery modules and packs will be jointly developed and produced in Turkey.

The agreement was signed between the board chairpersons of both companies in Bilişim Vadisi (Informatics Valley) in the northwestern Kocaeli province of Turkey.

TOGG partners with Farasis for li-ion battery production in Turkey

Turkey's Automobile Joint Venture Group (TOGG), which is producing the country’s first fully indigenous electric car, signed a letter of intent with...

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[Combat-Master]

TOGG names Honda Turkey's Murat Akdaş manager for production​

Turkey's Automobile Joint Venture Group (TOGG) has named Murat Akdaş, former factory director of Honda Turkey, as responsible for production, a statement made by the TOGG said Monday.

Akdaş, who has amassed more than 20 years of experience in the automotive industry having been at the Honda Turkey since 1997, will oversee positions in construction project management and production for the TOGG.

After completing his undergraduate studies at Istanbul Technical University's (ITÜ) Faculty of Naval Architecture and Machinery Engineering, Akdaş went on to receive a master's degree from the university's Faculty of Mechanical Engineering.

TOGG names Honda Turkey's Murat Akdaş manager for production

Turkey's Automobile Joint Venture Group (TOGG) has named Murat Akdaş, former factory director of Honda Turkey, as responsible for production, a...

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[Combat-Master]

Karel Selected to develop TOGG Tailgate Control Unit​

TOGG domestic automobile factory in Bursa, while continuing construction in Gemlik, Turkey's experienced more new developments in the car. Karel Elektronik Sanayi ve Ticaret A.Ş. announced that TOGG will design and manufacture the tailgate control unit.

The statement made to the Public Disclosure Platform (KAP) said: “Our company has focused its activities in the automotive field on peripheral vision systems and electronic control unit for the last 5 years. As a result of these studies, we had the opportunity to meet with TOGG and share our various projects with TOGG. We have reached the 'Letter of Nomination' stating that our company is preferred for the design and production activities of the tailgate control unit, which we consider within the scope of the electronic control unit that should be designed for the vehicle to be developed within TOGG. This choice will also allow our company to be included in the supplier list within TOGG in this project. "

New Development in Domestic Automobile TOGG! Supplier Company Karel

New Development in Domestic Automobile TOGG! Supplier Company Karel - Domestic automobile While TOGG's factory construction in Bursa Gemlik continues rapidly, a new development took place in Turkey's Automobile. Karel Electronics

www.raillynews.com

 

[Combat-Master]

German Engineering Company EDAG Arrives for Domestic Cars TOGG​

German engineering company EDAG opened an office in the Information Technology Valley in Gebze. The first engineering project in the company's new office in Turkey Automobile Enterprise Group (TOGG) to be carried out.

The world's largest independent engineering company EDAG Turkey opened its office. With the engineering center opened in Bilisim Vadisi in Gebze, the number of EDAG international engineering centers has exceeded 60. EDAG Group has been working to develop the first Turkish electric car brand as part of a team of international expert engineers with TOGG, which has been an engineering business partner since last year. EDAG will now offer on-site support for these works in its 600 square meter office in the Information Valley.

German Engineering Company EDAG Arrives for Domestic Cars TOGG

German Engineering Company EDAG Came for Domestic Automobile TOGG - German engineering company EDAG opened an office in Gebze, Bilişim Vadisi. The first engineering project in the company's new office, Turkey's Automobile Enterprise

www.raillynews.com

 

[Huelague]

A small car is missing.

 

[Combat-Master]

A small car is missing.

The small car can come from Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, GÜNSEL B9

 

[Tornadoss]

Is there any progress on factory?

 

[Huelague]

The small car can come from Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, GÜNSEL B9
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I know this, I mean from TOGG.

 

[TR_123456]

Dibs(a slang term for a claim to something).

 

[Test7]

It looks really amazing.. Presidental vehicle should definitely be something like this.

 

[Sinan]

Is there any progress on factory?

Projects are mainly completed. Contractor for the building phase selected. Contractor is giving review for the projects nowadays.

 

[Cypro]

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It looks really amazing.. Presidental vehicle should definitely be something like this.

I really liked this car..

It looks really cool, elegant and expensive* much better than our boxy simple günsel car.. but I wonder what would be the price difference An affordable electric car for everyone is needed.. If I were the decision makers, especially in TRNC, I would subsidize electric cars like crazy.. we are 100% depended on imported energy here and it is a small island (also a testbed for Turkey too) so easy to go full electric traffic. Just in 5 to 10 years, subsidize electric and increase carbon tax. And of course electric should be produced from sun /solar.. I never mentioned but I had my masters in solar energy, mostly solar radiation data acquisition, so I know from first hand, TRNC is gifted by solar but we need a reliable base load that's why I always supported an underwater power cable instead of water pipeline* We could have desalinated sea water with solar instead of carrying water resources from Turkey with same amount of investment, what we can't do is to find a power back up for our solar capacity. Solar energy should be supported by flexible base load or a bigger pool of energy like Turkish Grid. Turn TRNC 100% energy independent and watch )

In recent years Turkey is also active on renewable technologies, I wish they support this with tax reductions! My instructors / advisors were/are working for ODTU GUNAM, even back in 5 years ago a lot of opportunities and research was going on, if enough support given by the government anything could be possible. Future is not in Nuclear or NG, it is in renewables, hydrogen and fusion. Of course in reality 100% solar is not possible, and innovation still needed, like smart and micro grids.

 

[Test7]

also, I can't imagine the performance of the battery technology after 10 years. Batteries, which are charged in 5 hours today, will be able to charge in 30 minutes...

 

[Cypro]

also, I can't imagine the performance of the battery technology after 10 years. Batteries, which are charged in 5 hours today, will be able to charge in 30 minutes...

Charging times are part of innovation and improving day by day but unfortunately battery capacity is still a big problem. Whether it is car, solar Pv farm or any other renewable, storing energy is the biggest barrier. Energy density of current batteries prevent us, and no major change in that technology for decades. That is why we still need base load power plants or hybrid systems in energy generation.

 

[Xenon54]

Charging times are part of innovation and improving day by day but unfortunately battery capacity is still a big problem. Whether it is car, solar Pv farm or any other renewable, storing energy is the biggest barrier. Energy density of current batteries prevent us, and no major change in that technology for decades. That is why we still need base load power plants or hybrid systems in energy generation.

Lithium-Graphene Batteries are comercially awailable and could be the breakthrought we are waiting for.