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Not really, its just debt+inflation indexed at this point.
If Govt force feeds all this debt into the system like its been doing since 08 crash.... who's really gonna complain?
Spend more than you take out....thats all gotta go somewhere, esp if its corporate bailout top-heavy stuff mostly.
Stockmarket just soaks up all that yummy stuff for market cap....no innovation+productivity reference needed at all.
You are telling me an extra secure OS and industrial design is all it takes for a trillion dollar market cap (looks at apple)? Psh, give me a break.
Its Friedman 101 stuff right now. Kicking the can, no one wants to bite the bullet....too many votes and donors in the way of doing that.
Wall street+finance sector also knows it has enough agreements made with the Neo-lib dem faction and even their control over the progressive wing (AOC literally is blatant controlled op last few months - hilarious!).
These guys finance the uniparty, because they created it.... the all-seeing eye of Mordor back in Woodrow Wilson era.
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I think someone said best there really isnt another United States to cause the US to fall out of place if it were different story
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Twitter loses 5 billion in market cap after banning trump. Owie!
These is the world we live in folks....lmao. HONK HONK!
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It is telling a lot of (principled) people on left and right see through the BS going on now with the extreme de-platforming, censorship and attack on 1st amendment by the neo-lib-neo-con establishment.
jimmy dore spot on (yet again):
Comments were a good read:
I know Ben may be super annoying to lot of ppl most of the time and lot of people aren't biggest fan of him, but he is spot on here for most part as well:
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Left and Right both realising whats up. But I'm sure its best to ignore both and go with CNN-MSNBC-FOX and whatever ABC-XYZ group (hah there's one even called ABC how about that?) or whichever other MSM grift that provides the feel-good warmth for a sheep...but did a million times more actual damage to the republic and the world by their iraq war intel grift....among many other things (only growing, never stabilising or receding).
I mean pravda neo-lib crap has now realised the threat the internet poses to it and is metastasizing into mind-numbing control there too...so MSM grift doesn't get any challenge whatsoever. Fork out your son's blood to a foreign war and fork out your taxes too, when we say and as we say. Eye of providence you say? Long gone it is, consumed by the Fed pyramid that has the all seeing eye of Mordor...that must be served....at any cost.
In any case it is just a game and it matters not if you cannot be properly free in it...you have to do what they say, not as they do.
In this game they will have long inevitably silenced the bernie side too by then (like they already have with Glenn Greenwald and many others), and which ever groups come after it.... so there will be common cause in genuine patriotic way hopefully.
One last stand of truth and freedom vs the opposite.
In the end its likely going to come down to the courts and military as the last stand, they will sound it and the purpose will be renewed and won...or it will be doomed if they don't.
Anyway I'm sure at this juncture, bigtech (using biden and co and all the usual lackeys) tarring all conservatives (esp populist working class type) with the broad brush is going to be a big resounding success of bipartisan bridging. C'mon man! No Malarkey!
Team sniff and blow ftw....they make a great quarterback and wide receiver....hand in glove. It is fun and games after all. If you leave them alone, they'll obviously leave you alone. DUH!
I'd share what I'd likely feel like doing when real push comes to real shove down the road....but I think its best left unspoken. I feel it only momentarily anyway, it might grip more of me later with time, let us see.
(To be continued later....)
For now though:
jimmy dore spot on (yet again):
Comments were a good read:
I know Ben may be super annoying to lot of ppl most of the time and lot of people aren't biggest fan of him, but he is spot on here for most part as well:
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Left and Right both realising whats up. But I'm sure its best to ignore both and go with CNN-MSNBC-FOX and whatever ABC-XYZ group (hah there's one even called ABC how about that?) or whichever other MSM grift that provides the feel-good warmth for a sheep...but did a million times more actual damage to the republic and the world by their iraq war intel grift....among many other things (only growing, never stabilising or receding).
I mean pravda neo-lib crap has now realised the threat the internet poses to it and is metastasizing into mind-numbing control there too...so MSM grift doesn't get any challenge whatsoever. Fork out your son's blood to a foreign war and fork out your taxes too, when we say and as we say. Eye of providence you say? Long gone it is, consumed by the Fed pyramid that has the all seeing eye of Mordor...that must be served....at any cost.
In any case it is just a game and it matters not if you cannot be properly free in it...you have to do what they say, not as they do.
In this game they will have long inevitably silenced the bernie side too by then (like they already have with Glenn Greenwald and many others), and which ever groups come after it.... so there will be common cause in genuine patriotic way hopefully.
One last stand of truth and freedom vs the opposite.
In the end its likely going to come down to the courts and military as the last stand, they will sound it and the purpose will be renewed and won...or it will be doomed if they don't.
Anyway I'm sure at this juncture, bigtech (using biden and co and all the usual lackeys) tarring all conservatives (esp populist working class type) with the broad brush is going to be a big resounding success of bipartisan bridging. C'mon man! No Malarkey!
Team sniff and blow ftw....they make a great quarterback and wide receiver....hand in glove. It is fun and games after all. If you leave them alone, they'll obviously leave you alone. DUH!
I'd share what I'd likely feel like doing when real push comes to real shove down the road....but I think its best left unspoken. I feel it only momentarily anyway, it might grip more of me later with time, let us see.
(To be continued later....)
For now though:
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Twitter boss: Trump ban is 'right' but 'dangerous'
Jack Dorsey acknowledges that banning the president undermines the ideals of an open internet.
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I think it's necessary to have laws to govern social media, impose laws of journalism on them, and everything else, racism, etc. etc. I do not think they should be held blameless for should be able to hide under 1st amendment on and off as they see fit.
Perhaps Social Media Tickets may be coming soon like speeding ticket.
Anyway quite significant to be impeached twice, I think it's necessary to crucify him to make an example and try to regain semblence of democracy again.
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Trump impeached for 'inciting' US Capitol riot in historic second charge
Donald Trump becomes the first president in US history to be charged with misconduct in office twice.
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May be this train of thought belongs in its own thread. BTW, Apple is about 2 trillion dollars, not just one.
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May be this train of thought belongs in its own thread. BTW, Apple is about 2 trillion dollars, not just one.
Indeed, I just remember the news when it hit a trillion and was shaking my head at it. Its doubled since then....go figure, case in point as far as I'm concerned on that matter.
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Well I just got into a heated argument today with an old friend of mine (We go back a long way)...and it didn't end well lets put it that way. Guy just loves the media echo chamber too much...he just wont question it and it always comes back to that on any other subject I tried to change things to (And then I'm made out to be the bad guy etc etc).
Hopefully we can pick up what we once had sometime in future, let's see....but its indicative of what has happened with a number of buddies this last 5 years or so. There have been some that have also surprised me in their ability to question the narratives too though, that must be said...its not all bad news.
But here is some more stuff I thought I'd post (FWIW literally *chuckles*):
5.45 minute mark, BANG! The REAL left vs these boutique neo lib F''s...
Hard to find one thing I disagree with in this whole episode. Wow.
Chris Hedges almost word for word says what I have said in this thread...damn.
That's the silver lining I'll hold on to survive till its the calling, there are other people out there that do think the same as me....on "other side of aisle"....because they ACTUALLY care about 1st principle stuff in the constitution/foundation (if it erodes one way, it will erode on the other way inevitably, in fact it already has).
The way he gets into the psychologies and pathologies and the history of these politicians (as he wraps up in last 10 minutes), word for word what I said here.
In 44 minutes, I don't think I've ever seen a more concentrated true summary of the predicament of US political system and US society. @Yankeestani
Today every word rings truer than ever...."FWIW":
^^US never had that moment and movement at any appreciable intensity for the Iraq war+occupation pure and simple.
The elitists saw the problem very quickly (during and after 'nam)...that conscription reaches deeply into public conscience and fast.
A sad irony now that those willing to sign up and put their (private + individual) lives on the line for their love+respect to their country, end up being "used" and "thrown away" by the establishment (who profit off it well past their political careers) with little public understanding and blowback (the thing in a democracy that seems to only come by "public+collectivist" army system).
The result is what you see now...a downstream severe phantom limb in the psyche...the one that comes inevitably if you cannot and more importantly DID NOT hold your powerbrokers to any account.
Add on top the sheeple are all hedonist as heck now, so many only caring about having the last angry toxic word in some virtual environment with "others" that they will never meet or care about.
This does not register with them, everyone got addicted to this Brave New World Soma and fast in this current crop.
Anyway, those elitists+powerbrokers have now morphed (purely name-wise) downstream into the neo-lib + neo-con haze. Heads I win, Tails I win. Since only I win, I shall now remake all else in my glorious image.
So a set of rules for them, and a different one for you....they have infinite wisdom, you are just dirt to know your place and stick to and never question them (though they rub their hands when you question those among you - that is practically encouraged as it divides your bargaining power to make you all powerless to them).
But the bad people are some easy-to-point powerless folks down on the ground with you. Used to be the blacks, then the hispanics, now its conservatives-at-large (especially as more blacks and hispanics join their fold than ever before - how about that?). Man this SJW culture war is complete @$#@%#@!
There is a reason Chris Hedges brings up Woodrow Wilson (just like I did). That particular vein of degeneracy (sold as "progressive" in whatever flavour in fashion at the time) has never left the power class in the US...in fact it has only grown in scope and scale. THAT's the thing that's become bipartisan.....yuck!
But I guess mrs 24,000 fridge (earned among other things from bank bailout slush funds), streaming boutique ice cream to "survive the lockdown"...that got "set up" by own hairdresser....has all the credibility to assert orange-man bad cuz RUSSSSSSSSSSSIAAA.
Hopefully we can pick up what we once had sometime in future, let's see....but its indicative of what has happened with a number of buddies this last 5 years or so. There have been some that have also surprised me in their ability to question the narratives too though, that must be said...its not all bad news.
But here is some more stuff I thought I'd post (FWIW literally *chuckles*):
5.45 minute mark, BANG! The REAL left vs these boutique neo lib F''s...
Hard to find one thing I disagree with in this whole episode. Wow.
Chris Hedges almost word for word says what I have said in this thread...damn.
That's the silver lining I'll hold on to survive till its the calling, there are other people out there that do think the same as me....on "other side of aisle"....because they ACTUALLY care about 1st principle stuff in the constitution/foundation (if it erodes one way, it will erode on the other way inevitably, in fact it already has).
The way he gets into the psychologies and pathologies and the history of these politicians (as he wraps up in last 10 minutes), word for word what I said here.
In 44 minutes, I don't think I've ever seen a more concentrated true summary of the predicament of US political system and US society. @Yankeestani
Today every word rings truer than ever...."FWIW":
^^US never had that moment and movement at any appreciable intensity for the Iraq war+occupation pure and simple.
The elitists saw the problem very quickly (during and after 'nam)...that conscription reaches deeply into public conscience and fast.
A sad irony now that those willing to sign up and put their (private + individual) lives on the line for their love+respect to their country, end up being "used" and "thrown away" by the establishment (who profit off it well past their political careers) with little public understanding and blowback (the thing in a democracy that seems to only come by "public+collectivist" army system).
The result is what you see now...a downstream severe phantom limb in the psyche...the one that comes inevitably if you cannot and more importantly DID NOT hold your powerbrokers to any account.
Add on top the sheeple are all hedonist as heck now, so many only caring about having the last angry toxic word in some virtual environment with "others" that they will never meet or care about.
This does not register with them, everyone got addicted to this Brave New World Soma and fast in this current crop.
Anyway, those elitists+powerbrokers have now morphed (purely name-wise) downstream into the neo-lib + neo-con haze. Heads I win, Tails I win. Since only I win, I shall now remake all else in my glorious image.
So a set of rules for them, and a different one for you....they have infinite wisdom, you are just dirt to know your place and stick to and never question them (though they rub their hands when you question those among you - that is practically encouraged as it divides your bargaining power to make you all powerless to them).
But the bad people are some easy-to-point powerless folks down on the ground with you. Used to be the blacks, then the hispanics, now its conservatives-at-large (especially as more blacks and hispanics join their fold than ever before - how about that?). Man this SJW culture war is complete @$#@%#@!
There is a reason Chris Hedges brings up Woodrow Wilson (just like I did). That particular vein of degeneracy (sold as "progressive" in whatever flavour in fashion at the time) has never left the power class in the US...in fact it has only grown in scope and scale. THAT's the thing that's become bipartisan.....yuck!
But I guess mrs 24,000 fridge (earned among other things from bank bailout slush funds), streaming boutique ice cream to "survive the lockdown"...that got "set up" by own hairdresser....has all the credibility to assert orange-man bad cuz RUSSSSSSSSSSSIAAA.
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Such also happen to me. Even worse, not only I've lost few friends, but my own father also stuck to the medias narrative echo chamber.
The only way to cure them is by dragging them to see how things themselves (in person). Unfortunately in most case such solution is grossly impractical
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Revolution is the sense you used it was a sudden, abrupt change of political order often brought up by force. In this context we an use the french Revolution and the Russian revolution to inform our understanding. 1947 was not by any stretch a with that meaning. It was a constitutional process brought about by years of discussion and negotiation by two political parties and their imperial master the British. Then the event of 1947 was effectuated by a act of British Parliamant. India and Pakistan are products of that act of British parliamant thus I described it as the birth certificate of both countries. Can you place hold on this conversation until I open another thread as this falls outside the remit of this thread.
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Sure we can pick up where and when you want to (and tag me - a lot of replies I did get mod buddy of mine to move to your raj-reich thread if you want to pick it up there). It is arguing semantics (concerning the word) revolution in the end tbh.
Also I don't think there is much left to really discuss on it between (us 2)....for most part on lot of it we will have to agree to disagree...that probably goes for the IND-PAK history "context" stuff in general. For most part I think our positions on the matter are fairly clear to each other at large. But maybe if I see something interesting and new you bring up, I might go for a reply.
I'd prefer discussing other topics with you as and when they come up...either downstream particulars in the region or complete different topics altogether.
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