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Chinese planes are crap, but Russian planes are not. No reason to mock them.

Even the German Luftwaffe with their Messerschmidts couldnt beat the Soviet airforce in World War II.

And till this day the Americans are buying Russian engines for their space rockets.

Russia has a great aviation history and strong producers in the sector with Sukhoi, Mikoyan, Iljushin and Tupolev.

The SU-24 for example is the first and only bomber aircraft with a side-by-side seating where the pilots can sit next eachother.

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The thing is, we can't say Russian weapons are crap as a generalisation or that of any country as a matter of fact.
The Soviet era was full of pioneering aviation breakthroughs like the MiG-25, Tu-95, Yak-36/38, Tu-160, Su-24, Mi-6, Mi-26 etc, etc.
Many of the western weaponry was made either as a response to a Soviet threat or a stolen copy. (See Concorde/Tu-144).
Variable wings/VTOL/Mach 3 fighters/long range bombers are only some of the ideas gleaned from the Soviets.

That being said, the doctrine being quite different than western one, with the standards all over the place unlike NATO ones, in addition to lack of supervision and quality control that have been a normality since the collapse of the USSR, all these factors plus "the Vodka factor" and lack of purpose and faith in the military show us how they all affect the performance of weaponry in general.

The Ukraine war had shown us that no matter how advanced and badass your equipment are, lack of strategic acumen, regular maintenance, properly planned logistics, and simply the belief in your military leadership would result in fatal flaws.

The US have made the most amazing weapons ever but they've produced plenty of lemons too.

So when Turkish defence industry messes up from time to time, let's all try constructive criticism instead of lashing out immediately.
 

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Chinese planes are crap, but Russian planes are not. No reason to mock them.

Even the German Luftwaffe with their Messerschmidts couldnt beat the Soviet airforce in World War II.

And till this day the Americans are buying Russian engines for their space rockets.

Russia has a great aviation history and strong producers in the sector with Sukhoi, Mikoyan, Iljushin and Tupolev.

The SU-24 for example is the first and only bomber aircraft with a side-by-side seating where the pilots can sit next eachother.

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Russia of today is not the Soviet Union of decades ago. Their oh so good planes couldn't even get air superiority against Ukraine's Soviet made planes and S-300 air defence systems. And let's not even talk about their "5th gen" plane SU-57 lol. History doesn't matter when a country has spent decades in corruption and can barely fulfils its own orders while those planes you praise fall out of the sky on their own.
 

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Turkish F-35 fighters undergo technical maintenance every month.

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A Turkish news source, Aydınlık, reports that the United States is requesting compensation for the maintenance of F-35 fighter jets.

These aircraft, which have not been delivered to Turkey, have been kept in storage for six consecutive years.

 

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Turkish F-35 fighters undergo technical maintenance every month.

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A Turkish news source, Aydınlık, reports that the United States is requesting compensation for the maintenance of F-35 fighter jets.

These aircraft, which have not been delivered to Turkey, have been kept in storage for six consecutive years.

We enter the realms of absurdity here, don't we?
 

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We enter the realms of absurdity here, don't we?
I mean not really. By all accounts, those 6 fighters are Turkish property, paid for and delivered to Turkish air force. Them being confiscated would be akin to UK confiscating the Ottoman dreadnoughts in 1914. US broke the contract on F-35 and they are stuck with our F-35s. They can't deliver them to TR because they changed the contract and they can't absorb them to USAF, because it's not theirs to do so. More like legal hell than absurdity.
 

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I mean not really. By all accounts, those 6 fighters are Turkish property, paid for and delivered to Turkish air force. Them being confiscated would be akin to UK confiscating the Ottoman dreadnoughts in 1914. US broke the contract on F-35 and they are stuck with our F-35s. They can't deliver them to TR because they changed the contract and they can't absorb them to USAF, because it's not theirs to do so. More like legal hell than absurdity.

The source says the maintenance costs reached 30 million US dollars.

Hakan Fidan should have said we will pay if you deliver.
 

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Russia of today is not the Soviet Union of decades ago. Their oh so good planes couldn't even get air superiority against Ukraine's Soviet made planes and S-300 air defence systems. And let's not even talk about their "5th gen" plane SU-57 lol. History doesn't matter when a country has spent decades in corruption and can barely fulfils its own orders while those planes you praise fall out of the sky on their own.
The thing is, we can't say Russian weapons are crap as a generalisation or that of any country as a matter of fact.
The Soviet era was full of pioneering aviation breakthroughs like the MiG-25, Tu-95, Yak-36/38, Tu-160, Su-24, Mi-6, Mi-26 etc, etc.
Many of the western weaponry was made either as a response to a Soviet threat or a stolen copy. (See Concorde/Tu-144).
Variable wings/VTOL/Mach 3 fighters/long range bombers are only some of the ideas gleaned from the Soviets.

That being said, the doctrine being quite different than western one, with the standards all over the place unlike NATO ones, in addition to lack of supervision and quality control that have been a normality since the collapse of the USSR, all these factors plus "the Vodka factor" and lack of purpose and faith in the military show us how they all affect the performance of weaponry in general.

The Ukraine war had shown us that no matter how advanced and badass your equipment are, lack of strategic acumen, regular maintenance, properly planned logistics, and simply the belief in your military leadership would result in fatal flaws.

The US have made the most amazing weapons ever but they've produced plenty of lemons too.

So when Turkish defence industry messes up from time to time, let's all try constructive criticism instead of lashing out immediately.
Russian Planes are not bad but their electric equipments are very bad now.

We have not problem on electric equipments but when can we copy F414 and F110 engine?
 

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As Russians urge more air defense systems, is it possible to turn back s400 to Russia? ( Would they pay for it?)

Then we could get our birds from America.
 

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Agreed, we will not be able to sell it back to Russia. That would do us a lot of damage.
But we cant sell it to anyone else without Russian approval, either.
 

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Although the F-16V process coincided with NATO's Scandinavian expansion, another important issue that has been overshadowed in the Turkish media is that Iran has started to conduct joint exercises with China in the region and that Russian Su-35 deliveries will begin in 2023. Although there are of course many other reasons, but it can be assumed as one of the big factors that these developments on NATO's eastern flank have been instrumental in softening the resistance created by senators who have become toys in the hands of congressional lobbyists.

If we look at the issue from the perspective of air force current/short term positions and -ASAP type- procurement planning, one of opportunity attracts my attention more: As we know, the list of ammunition notified to the congress includes both the new block AGM-88Bs and the AGM-88E AARGM order, which includes advanced active millimeter-wave seeker features that are developed with Italy. Thus, AARGM will enter the TAF inventory. It has an important update that allows the missile to continue tracking the target with determination even if the radar is turned off to get rid of the missile lock. In Viper squadrons, AARGM will be integrated with AN/ALQ-257 IVEWS and AN/APG-83 SABR on the electronic side.

However, there is another powerful SEAD/DEAD configuration paired with AARGMs: Eurofighter EK, which is also include Sweden Saab's Arexis Electronic Warfare (EW) suite, and which includes the CAPTOR E AESA radar and all these package is expected to replace the Tornado ECR.

We see many embargo decisions being lifted currently. Sweden, followed by Canada as latest examples but general picture seems broader than. With the US approval of the Viper, the only left stumbling is Germany. Personally, I think that this stubborn will be partially lifted, even if only in a narrow scope. I believe that the warm messages of the last days by german politicis are also aimed at preparing this environment. For Germany, NATO is not the only issue, but more importantly, there is an EU's future that declared its intention a week ago to provide a financing of up to 300 billion euros for the stronger integration of Central Asia into the EU's energy security and trade.

The fact that Germany is blocking this sale when the UK side is so willing to do so, I think, is becoming an increasingly critical issue in shaping the future of German-Turkish relations. And I think the UK is pursuing a win-in-every-situation strategy. But there is only one way in which Germany can win. It seems that Air Force has reached AARGM to prevent any vulnerability until the AKBABA, MURAD, MEH POD/IS solution is in place. While even the US sees it as a strategic issue to meet on minimum commonalities and secure the alliance border, Germany's alone and foot dragging position without a serious supporter is pushing relations permanent fracture and it is really nothing but nonsense. Verin amk T4'leri...
 
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If you make the mistake of capitulating on the s400 you will have convinced the americans that they can keep screwing us. As far as im concerned the F35 is closed, if we can help it we should never buy another fighter jet from the USA ever again. I would also be of the opinion the less we buy from them the better. You do that, the next time such a situation occurs they will think twice. But if you bend over now, they will screw you harder the next time and there is always a next time with these Americans.

And never fall for this senate crap they do exactly as they want when they want. When they push a senator forward as the obstacle is just a smokescreen. Years senators were in the way, the moment the americans blackmail you into getting what they want, deals can pass instantaneously.
 

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Published in 2017. Would be interesting to compare with the ongoing progress of the project.


INTEL REPORT: COUNTDOWN TO TF-X​

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  2. INTEL REPORT: COUNTDOWN TO TF-X


By Alan Warnes 15th June 2017
FEATURE
Turkey’s centenary in 2023 is the date set for the country’s first indigenous jet fighter, TF-X, to fly. Alan Warnes reports from Istanbul, where the deal to build the fifth-generation twin-engined jet was signed between Ankara and the UK.
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Technologies from programmes such as the Taranis unmanned combat aerial vehicle and Typhoon are likely to play a part in BAE’s future co-operation with TAI.
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Turkey and the UK signed a TF-X agreement on May 10 and the newgeneration fighter aircraft is scheduled to make its first flight in demonstrator form in 2023.
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Although Aselsan had a mock-up of an AESA radar on display at IDEF, it didn’t stop Raytheon from showing off fullscale mock-ups of its AN/APG-84 Raytheon Advanced Combat Radar (RACR).
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Saab’s contributions
Although Saab prefers to say little about its role in TF-X, three distinct conceptual designs had emerged by the end of its two-year consultancy role. The first was a single-engine airframe with blended wing to fuselage lines. The second concept featured a larger fuselage to house two turbofan engines within the blended wing/fuselage design. The third, and most ambitious, was a canard-delta design with a single-engined fuselage, for agile handling. Committing to a twin-engined fighter will be more expensive, increasing procurement and maintenance costs over the life of the aircraft. On the other hand, it means the jet will be of higher performance and equipped with an additional internal weapons carriage.
AN AGREEMENT TO kickstart the highly ambitious multibillion-dollar TF-X project was signed by representatives of the Turkish and British governments at this year’s International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF) in Istanbul.
The event took place at a ceremony held at the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) stand on May 10. The deal was sealed by Stephen Phipson, head of the UK’s Defence and Security Organisation (DSO) and Professor Dr Ismail Demir, Turkey’s Undersecretary for Defence Industries (Savunma Sanayii Müsteşarı, SSM), paving the way for the two countries’ future co-operation.
This was followed by another agreement between TAI and BAE Systems, which was selected as the Foreign Collaboration Company in mid-2015, outlining how the two firms will work together. BAE Systems will be drawing on its work on future combat aircraft including the Typhoon, F-35, Scavenger, Mantis and Taranis as well as advanced electronic warfare suites as its contribution to the initiative.
The UK’s commitment to sharing technologies and expertise in support of TF-X builds upon the Phase 1 Stage 1 preliminary design agreement signed between the Turkish government and prime contractor TAI on August 5 last year.
Why a homegrown fighter?
Turkey is keen to establish its own aerospace industry, avoiding the hazards of International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) and the fallout from possible sanctions. Most nations outside North America and Europe now prefer ITAR-free equipment for the same reason. Too many have seen their aircraft fleets grounded due to a lack of sanctioned spare parts.
Dropping its reliance on foreign products by 2023 is part of Turkey’s strategic vision, which is why it is keen to forge ahead with TF-X, known locally as the Milli Muharip Uçak (MMU – National Fighter Aircraft).
This wider project will help to strengthen Turkish aerospace companies’ expertise, as many enter into joint ventures with Western companies that promise transfer of technology.
An initial two-year concept phase for TF-X started in 2011 and was bolstered in March 2013 when Saab joined as technological consultant for another two years.
Ankara-based TAI is responsible for the aerodynamics and design of the airframe, while Tusaş Engine Industries at Eskişehir is tasked with serialising production of the powerplant. This is overseen by a Project Management Office (PMO) led by a two-star general in the Türk Hava Kuvvetleri (THK – Turkish Air Force) working alongside local defence electronics contractor Aselsan and TAI within the confines of the Turkish government and SSM. The organisations will work together to draw up a schedule for the sequence and scope of the contracts.
UK involvement
The Turkish government wanted the UK to share responsibility for the fighter: to back it with industrial participation and also help with exports. Gaining the support of the British government was paramount to Turkey. And, with a future likely to be outside the EU, Britain was keen to be involved.
On January 28, the British Prime Minister Theresa May along with her Turkish counterpart, Binali Yıldırım, plus the heads of BAE Systems and TAI signed a Heads of Agreement to collaborate on the first development phase of TF-X. It builds upon a precontract study phase between BAE Systems and TAI.
BAE Systems had remained tight-lipped on TF-X until this point, but at the time of the agreement it announced that a planned contract with a value in excess of £100m would follow.
In a statement announcing the January 28 agreement BAE Systems Chief Executive, Ian King, said: “BAE Systems is a leader in designing, manufacturing and supporting fighter aircraft and is in an excellent position to contribute technical and engineering expertise and experience of managing complex projects to this key Turkish programme. The announcement signals an exciting next step in relations between both Turkey and the UK, with the co-operation between BAE Systems and TAI paving the way for a deeper defence partnership. The agreement confirms ongoing collaborative work on the design and development of the aircraft.”
At its peak, hundreds of Turkish and UK engineers will work on TF-X, helping to develop the skills, technology and technical expertise required to realise the fifth-generation jet.
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Stephen Phipson, head of the UK’s Defence and Security and Professor Dr Ismail Demir, Turkey’s Undersecretary for Defence Industries (SSM) sign a government-to-government agreement.
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The document that heralds the start of the multibillion-dollar project.
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The Turkish government is seeking the new fighter to replace its fleet of F-16s, with the Block 30s being the first (see Three decades of Turkish Vipers, June 2017, p70-77). The F-16s will be replaced, like for like, so there will be a need for around 250 new fighters to work alongside the F-35As on order for the THK.
TAI already has experience of working with future fighters. It signed a $100m, long-term agreement with Northrop Grumman in June 2005 to produce composite parts and subassemblies for the F-35 centre fuselage developed by the American defence technology company. Delivery of the first example, from Ankara, took place in March 2011. The TF-X project will benefit from TAI’s manufacturing experience, but this is insufficient to carry the whole initiative. The collaboration needs the depth of knowledge and expertise that will be provided by BAE.
Ambitious time-line
The 2023 first-flight deadline, set to coincide with the centenary of the declaration of the Republic of Turkey, is extremely ambitious. After all, the F-35 has been beset by trials and tribulations over the past three decades. It was at least 15 years from the signing of the initial agreement between the UK and West Germany to the Eurofighter’s first flight. There were also added complications thanks to disagreements among the partnering nations.
However, BAE Systems’ work in designing and manufacturing cutting-edge technologies for the Typhoon, as well as unmanned combat air vehicles such as the Mantis, means it is well placed to contribute to the fifth-generation TF-X.
It is likely to be a technology demonstrator that flies in 2023, in the same way that BAE and partners flew the Experimental Aircraft Programme (EAP) in 1986, seven years after the Eurofighter agreement. TF-X serial production aircraft are expected to be delivered from 2029, six years after the first jet’s flight. That contrasts significantly with the Typhoon evolution, which saw the Royal Air Force accept the Typhoon in 2003, 17 years after the EAP’s first flight and nine after the Typhoon flew.
Chris Boardman, BAE Systems Managing Director Military Air and Information (MAI) at Warton, is confident the deadlines can be met, based on previous experience on programmes such as Mantis. Shortly after the memorandum of understanding signing at IDEF, he told AFM: “In simple terms, BAE will provide expertise across all the parts of TF-X that are required to bring it together. We are not workshare driven. Our specialist skills in this project are designing and delivering combat aircraft – in a precise and effective way.
“We are not defining any specialisms in technical subsystems – we will operate in partnership with TAI wherever they wish us to. But the first thing to understand going forward is their [TAI’s] work programme, then formalise it and adapt to the work required to make it successful.”
Asked if the deadline was realistic, Boardman was unequivocal: “Of course. We did Mantis from start to finish in 19 months and we did EAP along the same time scale.”
On the subject of non-ITAR, he said: “That’s a decision the Turkish government needs to make. It becomes a trade-off between how much do you need to have new at the beginning of a programme as opposed to how much you can develop over time and replace. If you look at every combat aircraft ever designed there will be a trade-off between what you can bring and what you need to develop production-wise, to actually meet the operational needs of the air forces.
“This agreement enables us to bring the engineers to Turkey, so that we can do things in isolation and put the teams together and these formalities have enabled that process to start. Decisions on the aircraft – selection of an engine and flight control system – will have to be done within months. The goal of having it flying by 2023 is a good one: it took us 19 months [to develop and fly] Mantis, so I don’t see it as a problem.
“Let us use it in a positive way, because programmes like this that don’t have a ‘need to achieve’ tend to take too long. So if you have something to focus on, like 100 years [of the Turkish Republic] that is a great thing to drive you.”
From 1994 to 1999 BAE Systems worked on its own top-secret fifth-generation fighter, known as Replica, which was believed to have been associated with the RAF’s now-shelved Future Offensive Air System. Maybe elements of that research, and of other similar secret projects, will be re-examined for possible integration into the TF-X.
New air-to-air missiles at IDEF
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The main players line up alongside the two new AAMs. Left: General Abidin Ünal, THK commander; second from left: Arif Ergin, head of Tübitak SAGE; third from right: Erdal Çakmak, Director, Tübitak and second from right: Celal Sayi Tüfeçki (SSM). Alan Warnes
Two new air-to-air missiles were unveiled by Tübitak SAGE (Defense Industries Research and Development Institute) at IDEF. The Peregrine within-visual-range (WVR) and Merlin beyond-visual-range (BVR) AAMs are the first to be developed by Turkey. Both missiles have been under development as part of Project Goktug since 2012, according to the Tübitak director, Erdal Çakmak. He indicated they should be integrated and test-fired within the next two years. According to one source, the Peregrine (Gökdoğan) has a range of 20 miles (30km) while the larger Merlin (Bozdoğan) has a range of around 40 miles (65km). Although Tübitak is responsible for design of the two AAMs, a decision on which company will be responsible for producing them has not been taken.
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The mock-up of the BAE Systems Replica was seen at Warton as recently as September 2016. Concepts from this stealth fighter design study may be incorporated in TF-X. Derek Bower
Four years into three
The preliminary design review (PDR), or ‘T One’ as TAI refers to it, should be completed by the end of the year, possibly even earlier. This will enable SSM to pore over the BAE Systems export licences and, when approved, will lead to ‘T Zero’, the four-year design review, starting on January 1.
However, TAI’s CEO, Temel Kotil, who has led the company for six months, wants to speed up the project. The day after the agreement had been signed he told AFM that he had shortened the timeline by one year to three: “We can do it. I am going to run this project under time constraints. While it costs me money, they will follow my direction. I will also use the world’s resources to speed the process up as well as trying to keep costs down.”
As a result, he visited the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), which builds the JF-17 Thunder, as well as parts for Boeing and Airbus, in late May. It is possible that PAC will share some of its supersonic fighter analysis with TAI.
One of Kotil’s first tasks is to employ more engineers. “Lockheed Martin [which developed the F-35] have had 15,000 engineers over a 25-year period. I have only 2,000 now, but we need more, 5,000 more, so we are recruiting.”
Kotil has already turned around the fortunes of Turkish Airlines and now wants to speed up the development process not just with TF-X, but also with the Hürkuş trainer and new T-625 helicopter. “Time is money,” he told AFM.
Cutting back the design review to three years had not yet filtered through to many at the coalface by mid-May. Aselsan for example, which will play a major role in providing the avionics, was expecting a fouryear contract by the end of the year, to develop the jet’s radar.
Aselsan is now working on a technology improvement programme (TEP) for an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar for jet fighters. While the company has plenty of experience working on similar ground-based systems, it has never worked on an airborne example.
A mock-up of an AESA demonstrator and technology system, known as the multifunction radar (MFR) was publicly displayed for the first time at IDEF. There will be two MFR prototypes, one used by the scientists and engineers in the laboratory, and another for the test-bed aircraft.
In a joint venture with Bilkent University, Aselsan is building a Gallium Nitride (GaN) facility for the transmit/receive (TR) modules that are so important for the AESA radar. The company is keen to launch its own GaN production line, which, according to an Aselsan source, will begin operations in two years.
What next?
A programme, such as TF-X, is complex due to its very nature. In addition to the collaboration between two governments and two major companies, other stakeholders, representing the engines and avionics, also have to be considered. Export rights, industrialisation as well as strategic aspects are all under discussion, with the engine decision being especially critical.
TAI’s Professor Dr Mustafa Cavcar, Executive Vice President TF-X Group told AFM: “This aircraft will bring lots of technology development to Turkey, but the next big decision is the engine selection, which is down to SSM. We have a consultative role and have submitted a report [with its recommendation] to SSM.”
Three foreign companies are bidding for a chance to work with Tusaş Engine Industries, which will be responsible for producing the engine.
On May 8 Rolls-Royce and Kale Group of Turkey announced the creation of a joint venture company for a new engine. It offers Turkey full control over intellectual property rights and third-party sales and is likely to be the favoured option.
General Electric is offering technology transfer for the F414- GE-400 that powers the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, while Eurojet is offering an improved version of the Typhoon’s EJ200 engine, as well as technology transfer.
Cavcar continued: “We can start testing the flight control system and the aircraft’s flight characteristics when it flies in 2023. It is possible we might still be using a concept engine then, but can install the new engine in the second prototype. For flighttesting we are currently planning two prototypes, but that could change if we need to shorten the testing. The prototype will be testing its aerodynamic design and we can add in the new innovative technologies later.”
The “new innovative technologies” could come from ideas that BAE has touted in the past, such as selfhealing technologies, laser energy weapons and multiple sub-jets flying as one then breaking out at a given time.
The TF-X will see many British or UK-based companies vying for work as the British aerospace industry gets back to the business of producing fighters again. Turkey is set to join China, Russia, India, Japan, South Korea and the United States in the handful of nations committed to a fifth-generation fighter. With TF-X, BAE Systems can build upon the technological strides it has achieved in the past. This should include more investment in newer technologies that it might have otherwise struggled to fund. Perhaps more importantly for the UK, TF-X provides an opportunity to build a solid trading relationship with a country outside the EU.
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One of the more exotic future technologies proposed by BAE Systems is this concept of ‘transforming’ drones flying as a single unit before conducting individual sorties as commanded.
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Published in 2017. And the story continues.....


THREE DECADES OF TURKISH VIPERS​

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  2. THREE DECADES OF TURKISH VIPERS


By Alan Warnes 18th May 2017
FEATURE
Turkey celebrates its 30th anniversary as an F-16 ‘Viper’ operator later this year. Since its first aircraft were delivered in October 1987, the fleet has grown into the third largest after those of the United States and Israel, as AFM’s Alan Warnes reports.
TURKISH F-16S
TURKEY HAS built a strong military to keep safe its borders with Syria, Iraq and Iran and deal with an unpredictable relationship with its NATO ally and neighbour, Greece. The country is in a constant state of high alert and airspace protection is a top priority.
A Russian Aerospace Forces Su-24M was shot down after straying into Turkish airspace on November 24, 2015 by a Türk Hava Kuvvetleri (THK, Turkish Air Force) F-16C, believed to be from 182 Filo at Diyarbakır.
The Su-24M was flying an anti-terrorist mission from its base in Latakia province, Syria. Both crew ejected and while one was rescued by Russian troops, the other was killed by small arms from the ground.
Following the incident, Turkey re-affirmed it would shoot down any aircraft committing such violations.
Turkey’s F-16s are also very capable in the air-to-ground role, and strikes against Partiya Karkerên Kurdistanê (PKK, Kurdish Workers’ Party) militias occur regularly. Among recent operations, a February 27 engagement saw five militant targets bombed.
First combat
Although THK F-16s had confronted Hellenic Air Force jets previously, their first true combat came in April 1993, when the type was deployed to Ghedi, Italy. Eighteen F-16C/ Ds and 24 pilots from 142 Filo at Mürted began the THK’s first overseas combat deployment to an allied base.
Their mission was to enforce NATO’s no-fly zone over Bosnia, under Operation Deny Flight. They were tasked to shoot down any Yugoslavian aircraft ignoring the order.
When the mission evolved into all-out war against Yugoslavia under Operation Allied Force in March 1999, the Ghedi detachment, which had drawn down to only five 182 Filo F-16C/Ds, was expanded to 11 jets. As standard, each aircraft carried two AIM-120 AMRAAMs and four AIM-9M Sidewinders.
While other NATO F-16s habitually carried the AN/ALQ-131 electronic countermeasures pod on their centreline stations, the THK employed the internal Loral AN/ALQ-178. Under constant threat from its neighbours, Turkey had purchased the capability from Loral late in 1988.
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Fitted with CFTs, F-16C Block 50 07-1006 of 161 Filo blasts off from Konya. This squadron has a primary air-to-ground role. As of April last year, this particular Peace Onyx IV aircraft was assigned to 181 Filo.
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When 191 Filo took over from 182 Filo in mid-April, the F-16s added offensive sorties to their tasking, employing Mk 82 bombs. The unit continued at Ghedi until mid-July, when 152 Filo from Merzifon took over, continuing to operate the five jets remaining at the base.
The Turkish detachment ended late in 1999.
Anatolian Eagle
Having seen at first hand the importance of combined air operations with aircraft from other countries, the THK set about creating a major training exercise of its own. Modelled on the Red Flag events at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, the first Anatolian Eagle took place in June 2001 and included a mix of 71 THK, US Air Force and Israeli Air Force aircraft. All participating machines carried air combat manoeuvring instrumentation pods. THK F-16s from units across the country were involved. Anatolian Eagle came to play a major role in qualifying personnel for specialist roles, with up to three exercises taking place every year, two of them often bilateral.
As well as attending NATO and Red Flag exercises, Turkish F-16s also held regular manoeuvres with Israeli F-16s until relations soured in May 2010 after an Israeli gunboat attacked a Turkish ship off Gaza. F-16 units also worked with Chinese Su-27s at Konya in 2010, with Azerbaijan Air Force MiG-29s during 2015 and 2016, and visited Mushaf in Pakistan during bilateral Indus Viper manoeuvres with the Pakistan Air Force.
Coup
All manoeuvres and overseas visits stopped after a failed coup on July 15 last year. Much of the THK’s F-16 experience and knowledge has been drained, with hundreds of personnel dismissed and/or imprisoned – the plotters used F-16s in their attempt to overthrow President Recep Erdoğan.
Just months before the rebellion, for example, four F-16Cs and two F-16Ds had deployed to Nellis for a Red Flag, with Colonel Mustafa Erturk, an experienced F-16 pilot, as detachment commander. Erturk, Head of Operations at Konya, was arrested in the coup’s aftermath.
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Normally based at Bandırma’s 6nci AJÜ, this pair of 162 Filo Block 40 F-16s was detached to the 3rd Main Jet Base at Konya for the two-week Anatolian Eagle exercise, where they are seen preparing for an afternoon mission.
Derek Bower
Losing such highly-experienced personnel, along with their knowledge and skills, has had a detrimental effect on the operational fleet, which was previously revered as one of the best in the world.
After the attempted coup, Ankara-Akıncı, home of 4 Ana Jet Üs (4 AJÜ, 4th Air Wing) was immediately closed. Its name has since reverted to Mürted, as it was known prior to 1997; the word means ‘coward’ in Mongol, hence its original replacement and the Turkish government’s decision to use it again. Its future is unclear, although there is speculation that it could be used as an aerospace test and evaluation facility, since Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) is stationed on the other side of the runway.
Akıncı’s three resident F-16 units, 141 ‘Kurt’, 142 ‘Ceylan’ and 143 ‘Öncel’ Filos have been disbanded and their aircraft dispersed between Eskişehir, Konya and Merzifon. At Eskişehir, to the west of Ankara, 113 Filo, which flew reconnaissance with RF-4Es until March 12, 2015, now operates ex-142 Filo F-16s that can be equipped with the UTC Aerospace Systems DB-110 reconnaissance pod. On re-equipment, 113 Filo adopted 142’s ‘Ceylan’ (Gazelle) traditions in place of its former ‘Işık’ (Light) heritage. In the process, the previously 12-squadron operational F-16 fleet has been reduced to ten.
Four DB-110 systems are known to have been acquired for the F-16 under the Turkish Airborne Reconnaissance Programme (TARP).
The TARP contract also included three UTC-supplied fixed/transportable imagery exploitation systems.
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A Block 50+ F-16 departs runway 01R at Konya with almost all the stores pylons occupied, and with additional fuel in conformal fuel tanks (CFTs) and drop tanks.
Derek Bower
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This impressive line-up of F-16s seen at Anatolian Eagle 2004 and headed up by a 191 Filo F-16D includes over 20 Turkish examples from various units.
Alan Warnes
Peace Onyx I
When Turkey selected the General Dynamics (later Lockheed and eventually Lockheed Martin) F-16 to fulfil its new fighter requirements in 1984, it also kick-started its aerospace industry. An offset agreement led to the construction of F-16 production facilities, now known as TAI, opposite the military installation at Mürted.
Under the $4.2bn Peace Onyx I (PO I) deal, in September 1983, Türkiye Uçak Sanayii AS (TUSAS, Turkish Aerospace Industries, predecessor to TAI) was contracted to build 160 F-16s, sufficient to re-equip eight F-5/F-104 squadrons. Contributions from local sources ($1bn), offsets ($1.5bn) and Foreign Military Sales (FMS) aid ($1.7bn) funded the deal. TUSAS built 70% of each F-16, including the centre/aft fuselage and wings. The requirements of the F-16s’ General Electric F110 engines led to a Units specialise in particular roles, including air defence, suppression of enemy air defences (SEAD)/ destruction of enemy air defences, tactical air support for maritime operations, close air support, reconnaissance and aggressor, with their aircraft equipped as required. The 401 ‘Test Filosu’ (401 Test Flight) recently stood up at Eskişehir, tasked with testing weapons and systems/software upgrades designed by the Turkish aerospace industry.
F-16C/D units
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TAI upgraded 163 F-16s at its facilities under Peace Onyx III – completing the work in April 2015.
Alan Warnes
$56m engine factory being built at Eskişehir and today known as Tusaş Engine Industries (TEI).
Peace Onyx I comprised 128 F-16Cs and 32 F-16Ds, General Dynamics building two of the F-16Cs (86-0066 to 067) and six F-16Ds (86- 0191 to 86-0196) at Fort Worth, for delivery in October 1987. The first of 152 locally produced F-16s (F-16D 86-0068) flew on October 20, 1987 after plans to build the 32 F-16Ds from Complete Knock Down Kits (CKDs) were abandoned. Later, the variant mix was changed to 24 F-16Ds and 136 F-16Cs.
The first 44 jets (35 ’Cs and nine ’Ds) were built to Block 30 standard for the operational conversion unit, known as Öncel and later designated as 143 Filo, and 141 and 142 Filo, all at Mürted. Built from the early 1990s, the remaining 116 aircraft were finished to Block 40 standard with provision for Low-Altitude Navigation and Targeting by Infra-Red at Night (LANTIRN) pods.
The PO I assembly process at Mürted was completed in 1995, when the 152nd F-16 was delivered. After deliveries to 4nci AJÜ at Mürted, 6nci AJÜ at Bandırma received F-16s in 1991/92, followed by 9nci AJÜ at Balıkesir, before F-16s replaced 8nci AJÜ’s CF-104 Starfighters at Diyarbakır. Last to convert, 5nci AJÜ at Merzifon phased its F-5s out in favour of the first Peace Onyx II jets.
Peace Onyx II
Even before PO I deliveries had been completed, a contract for 68 F-16C and 12 F-16D Block 50 aircraft (later amended to cover 60 F-16Cs and 20 F-16Ds) was signed under PO II, in March 1992. It ensured there was no lapse in production, with delivery of the first PO II aircraft (93-0657) taking place in July 1996; its career was short-lived, however, since it was involved in a collision on April 4, 2000. One of the pilots was killed, while the other ejected safely.
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Previously assigned to the 4th Jet Base at Akıncı, after the failed coup of July 15, 2016, this 143 Filo airframe was reassigned to the 5th Main Jet Base at Merzifon.
Derek Bower
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The THK’s official Red Air unit is 132 Filo at Konya, which is kept busy training with other squadrons. This example is a Peace Onyx II aircraft fitted with an ACMI pod.
Alan Warnes
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Compare the unit marks of the aircraft at Anatolian Eagle 2004 (see previous page) with the current flamboyant mural of 191 Filo.
Alan Warnes
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Mixed squadrons often operate together during Anatolian Eagle exercises at the 3rd Main Jet Base at Konya. The nearest airframe is from 152 Filo based at Merzifon, while the other example was at the time allocated to 143 Filo at Akıncı, which has since become a reserve base.
Derek Bower
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F-16C 88-0033 of 152 Filo features ‘Savaşan Anka’ (‘Fighting Phoenix’) nose art. This commemorates the fact that this Block 40 aircraft was badly damaged in a belly landing and, although Lockheed Martin deemed the aircraft a write-off, the THK returned it to the air after two years of repairs.
Chris Lofting
Financing for PO II came from the Turkish Defence Fund, established by Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the US and the United Arab Emirates in recognition of Turkey’s support during the 1991 Gulf War.
Lockheed Martin commended TAI for its workmanship on PO II F-16C ‘4R-23’ (88-0021), which was certified as ‘perfect’, entirely without snags, when it left the production hall. On November 12, 1999, TAI’s production line closed after the last PO II F-16C was handed over.
Peace Onyx III
The Peace Onyx III FMS contract, agreed in April 2005, was for the Common Configuration Implementation Program (CCIP) upgrade. This improves operational flexibility and logistics support, and reduces life-cycle costs, as well as enabling compatibility with more modern, ‘smarter’ weapons and sensors.
Lockheed Martin supplied 163 Government Furnished Equipment (GFE) kits for Turkey’s surviving 163 F-16 Block 40/50s. Each comprised the APG-68(V)9 multi-mode radar, colour cockpit displays and recorders, new core avionics processors, Joint Helmet- Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS), Link 16 data link, APX-113 Advanced IFF interrogator/ transponder, integrated precision navigation GPS/INS, an upgraded version of the Self- Protection Electronic Warfare System (including AN/ALQ-178(V)5+) and compatibility with several new targeting systems and weapons, including AIM-9X.
The upgrade was implemented in two parts.
Under the initial phase, Lockheed Martin contracted TAI to modify ten F-16s. Of these, one F-16C Block 40 and one Block 50, plus one F-16D Block 40 and one Block 50, were flown to Lockheed Martin’s Fort Worth facility in July 2009 for test and verification work on the new systems. They were tested with a variety of weapons and sensors, including LANTIRN and Sniper pods. The F-16Ds returned to Turkey in July 2011, followed by the F-16Cs in August 2012. The remaining six aircraft were handed to Lockheed Martin in Turkey, which ensured the work met its stringent quality standards, before delivery to the THK.
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Five Block 30 F-16C/Ds line up at Konya Air Base in June 2004 for an Anatolian Eagle exercise. The aircraft were by this stage wearing squadron markings, although not as bold as they are now. They belong to 141 Filo which, following the attempted coup last July, was disbanded and its Akıncı base closed down.
Alan Warnes
Peace Onyx
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Part of the Peace Onyx III order, F-16D 94-0110 received a special scheme to celebrate 50 years of 141 Filo in 2015.
Chris Lofting
The second part of PO III then began, TAI integrating the GFE kits through a modernisation and serial assembly upgrade.
At the height of its integration work, 45 THK F-16s could be seen at TAI’s facilities at any one time. In a bid to speed up the process, 16 were worked at the 1st Air Supply and Maintenance Centre, Eskişehir. The final aircraft, F-16D Block 40 89-0044, was handed back to the THK on April 10, 2015 during a ceremony at TAI’s Ankara facility.
Peace Onyx IV
Under Peace Onyx IV, the THK acquired 30 Block 50+ F-16s, leading TAI to re-open its F-16 production line, which had lain dormant since 1999. An FMS deal between TAI and Lockheed Martin was signed on December 5, 2008 for 14 F-16Cs and 16 F-16Ds. They have identical advanced systems and equipment fit, but the two-seaters fly as tactical attack aircraft. The bulk was delivered to the two LANTIRN units – 161 Filo at Bandırma and 181 Filo at Diyarbakır, and the Akıncı squadrons, 141 and 142 Filo, since disbanded.
Manufacturing started in early 2010 and the first aircraft, F-16D 07-1015, was delivered on May 23, 2011. It appeared at Air Show Türkiye, the THK’s 100th anniversary show at Izmir, in June 2011, carrying the indigenous 1,300lb (590kg) Roketsan Stand Off Missile (SOM). All PO IV F-16C/Ds are compatible with SOM, as well as the other indigenous weapons, including the new Nüfuz Edici Bomba (NEB, Penetrating Bomb) and KGK-82 INS/GPS-guided bomb.
The initial PO IV F-16D left Turkey for test and evaluation at Fort Worth in July 2011, returning with the F-16C Block 50 in August 2012. On December 11, 2012, the THK took delivery of the final pair of PO IV jets (F-16Ds 07-1029 and 07-1030), signalling termination of the production line.
A modernisation programme for 35 Block 30s now occupies TAI’s F-16 business.
According to its Aircraft Division Manager, Özcan Ertem: “TAI already has a turnkey contract with SSM [Savunma Sanayii Müsteşarlığı, Turkish Defence Industry] for life extensions on all 35 Block 30s. Lockheed Martin is supplying kits, while TAI will complete the modifications and ground/flight testing. Two lead-the-fleet aircraft (one F-16C and one F-16D) will begin the modification process, with serial modification from 2018.”
Nonetheless, TAI’s F-16 business is declining.
It is always interested in additional F-16 work, but the forthcoming F-35A should take up some of its spare capacity. With the Turkish Fighter programme (TF-X) also on the horizon, TAI is likely to remain busy.
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F-16C Block 50 07-1003 of 181 Filo during an Anatolian Eagle exercise at Konya.
Chris Lofting
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A Block 50+ F-16D departs Konya in full afterburner as part of a 60-aircraft mission package over the Anatolian Eagle exercise range areas.
Derek Bower
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US Senator Rand Paul has prepared a bill to block the sale of F-16 Block 70 to TR. The bill must be approved by a majority in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate.


🤡 We'll live with this until 2028/29.

A political party in the parliament should propose a bill to immediately close all US missions outside NATO, exit the NATO EPAA mission and confiscate the AN/TPY-2 in Kürecik and put it in storage. At the very least, there should be a workshop on this issue in the parliamentary sub-committees. But our great national assembly is occupied from top to bottom by Atlanticists.
 
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US Senator Rand Paul has prepared a bill to block the sale of F-16 Block 70 to TR. The bill must be approved by a majority in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate.


🤡 We'll live with this until 2028/29.

A political party in the parliament should propose a bill to immediately close all US missions outside NATO, exit the NATO EPAA mission and confiscate the AN/TPY-2 in Kürecik and put it in storage. At the very least, there should be a workshop on this issue in the parliamentary sub-committees. But our great national assembly is occupied from top to bottom by Atlanticists.
Rand Paul is a moron that isn't even liked within his party and this "bill" will go nowhere. It's an election year and we're an easy target to pander to his idiot voters. I'll eat my computer if it passes, these morons couldn't even pass bills they prepared themselves.
 

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US Senator Rand Paul has prepared a bill to block the sale of F-16 Block 70 to TR. The bill must be approved by a majority in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate.


🤡 We'll live with this until 2028/29.

A political party in the parliament should propose a bill to immediately close all US missions outside NATO, exit the NATO EPAA mission and confiscate the AN/TPY-2 in Kürecik and put it in storage. At the very least, there should be a workshop on this issue in the parliamentary sub-committees. But our great national assembly is occupied from top to bottom by Atlanticists.
We have no right to blame West. They are our enemies despite all this NATO allies, charade. There is no confusion about that on THEIR side.
Blame SSB, Aselsan, government for making us endure this and million other humiliations by failing to replicate these or even better technologies in time.

Like I said before: There are ZERO reasons not to install Özgür DAS, IRST, AESA, DIRCM high power laser weapons even a simple curved large screen to our F-16s.

But we are even buying "12 concrete dumb bombs" in this package.

Because of 9 to 5 "do the bare minimum," mentality.
No imagination, no vision.

Nobody takes initiative and those few who take initiative are the ones shouldn't, those without a crystal clear vision of what must be done and how.
 
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