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Why some of the TURAF F-16 has a golden tint canopy but others not?I
 

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If UAE cancels the Rafale deal, could this be a opportunity for Türkiye?
Or do you think, that Türkiye has zero interest in Rafale right now?

 

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If UAE cancels the Rafale deal, could this be a opportunity for Türkiye?
Or do you think, that Türkiye has zero interest in Rafale right now?

Bruh...
 

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If UAE cancels the Rafale deal, could this be a opportunity for Türkiye?
Or do you think, that Türkiye has zero interest in Rafale right now?

I have a higher chance of flying by waving my arms than France selling us Rafales.
 

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If UAE cancels the Rafale deal, could this be a opportunity for Türkiye?
Or do you think, that Türkiye has zero interest in Rafale right now?

And than attacking our bases with our aircraft ?! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 

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AN/ALQ-257 (otherwise also known as IVEWS )has started flight test. IVEWS was selected by the Turkish Air Force.

There were also rumours going around in greek media that the Turkish Air Force was co-financing its development don't know how credible that is though, I think if it was true we would have heard something on our side about it.
 

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I think if it was true we would have heard something on our side about it
On the contrary, we rarely ever hear about that kind of stuff re US. Plenty of nonsense talk about congress, DSCA, will they won't they, but never anything about actual development, funding, details. Senate okayed the F-16 deal, who here knows anything about the specifics which are yet to be signed?

For one small recent example, who here knows the full details of the 259 million deal for F-16 modernization that was announced in 2023?

"The Government of Türkiye has requested to buy defense articles and services to support its current fleet of F-16 aircraft, to include software upgrades of the Operational Flight Program (OFP) avionics with the Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (AGCAS) capability; hardware modifications to enable integration of the Multifunctional Information Distribution System Block Upgrade II (MIDS BU II), procured separately; hardware and software upgrades to include aircraft major modification; both classified and unclassified software and software support; integration and test support; support equipment; training and training equipment; spare and repair parts; publications and technical documentation; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistical support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated total cost is $259 million."

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I'm not saying whether it is true that we are co funding IVEWS or not, just that we don't know. We know however that Greek media in the past did report earlier and more accurately than any other regarding Turkish procurement of American systems and we have reason to believe Greek reporters have better sources and are better embedded into American MIC for the last decade.
 

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we have reason to believe Greek reporters have better sources and are better embedded into American MIC for the last decade.
It's not their reporters, its their "lobbyists". People they hire to bribe, I'm sorry, "lobby" US politicians to oppose anything and everything when it comes to us. Those people know the inner workings of the deals better than anyone and they give the information to Greeks, who then leak to their press to try to create pressure on the other politicians to veto it as well.
 

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It's not their reporters, its their "lobbyists". People they hire to bribe, I'm sorry, "lobby" US politicians to oppose anything and everything when it comes to us. Those people know the inner workings of the deals better than anyone and they give the information to Greeks, who then leak to their press to try to create pressure on the other politicians to veto it as well.
Yes but this only supports my point.
 

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On the contrary, we rarely ever hear about that kind of stuff re US. Plenty of nonsense talk about congress, DSCA, will they won't they, but never anything about actual development, funding, details. Senate okayed the F-16 deal, who here knows anything about the specifics which are yet to be signed?

For one small recent example, who here knows the full details of the 259 million deal for F-16 modernization that was announced in 2023?

"The Government of Türkiye has requested to buy defense articles and services to support its current fleet of F-16 aircraft, to include software upgrades of the Operational Flight Program (OFP) avionics with the Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (AGCAS) capability; hardware modifications to enable integration of the Multifunctional Information Distribution System Block Upgrade II (MIDS BU II), procured separately; hardware and software upgrades to include aircraft major modification; both classified and unclassified software and software support; integration and test support; support equipment; training and training equipment; spare and repair parts; publications and technical documentation; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistical support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated total cost is $259 million."

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I'm not saying whether it is true that we are co funding IVEWS or not, just that we don't know. We know however that Greek media in the past did report earlier and more accurately than any other regarding Turkish procurement of American systems and we have reason to believe Greek reporters have better sources and are better embedded into American MIC for the last decade.
Funnily enough the greek media, same media that reported about the F-16 deal before ours did, is now in overdrive reporting that Türkiye is about to re-join the F-35 program. We shall see, we shall see.
 

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Funnily enough the greek media, same media that reported about the F-16 deal before ours did, is now in overdrive reporting that Türkiye is about to re-join the F-35 program. We shall see, we shall see.
If there's a truth to that, we'll first learn about it from Reuters, as was the case with previous deals.
 

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The US side is stalling the F-16 deal because officials want to see the results of the next elections before committing to a deal. They want the next government/president to decide whether to give the project the green light.
 

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