TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[kenny]

The UK has lifted the export restrictions on the TFX engine(cavusoglu). looks like seriously TFX engine issue seems to be solved

 

[Combat-Master]

As ASFAT, we delivered the second A400M aircraft, which was retrofitted at our FASBAT Retrofit Center in Kayseri, to our Air Force Command on time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1512059974087708673

 

[B.t.N]

As ASFAT, we delivered the second A400M aircraft, which was retrofitted at our FASBAT Retrofit Center in Kayseri, to our Air Force Command on time.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1512059974087708673

Retrofitted with what? Wording gives the impression that we have purchased these planes bare with no options, even those ultimately necessary.

 

[TheInsider]

True but let us be a little bit optimistic and think out loud about another alternative:
Tusas has experience in setting out production line for F16 planes.
Tusas can manufacture all the fuselage and most of the plane if not all.
Tusas has local companies that can manufacture most parts.
TEI/GE will manufacture the engine.
It would be at Lockheed Martin’s interest to contract Tusas to produce our F16s and a portion of it’s current order book of F16s in Turkey. That way get Tusas to produce the planes and have them flown to another site, like Italy, to confirm quality etc, and sell them to Turkey under FMS. (Like they did with the Peaxe Onyx program)
That would cut down the timescale drastically and be cost saving on LM’s part.

Just thinking out loud!!

This will be indeed very good for us and worth signing the contract under those terms but unfortunately, it won't get congress's approval. We need a miracle for this to happen.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1512387274138337285

Another heroic contribution to the war of independence, an airplane from Sakarya Tayyare given by Rasim Bey.

 

[TheInsider]

F-16 ESM/Electronic support (EHPOD) and ECM/EA pod (EHPOD) projects move to the qualification phase. The first pods will probably be delivered this year.

 

[manifesto]

Will we can use EHPOD-EDPOD our all F 16 models?

 

[Anmdt]

F-16 ESM/Electronic support (EHPOD) and ECM/EA pod (EHPOD) projects move to the qualification phase. The first pods will probably be delivered this year.

Source:

Tübitak's 2021 annual report. Page: 100

https://tubitak.gov.tr/sites/default/files/18842/tubitak_2021_yili_faaliyet_raporu.pdf

 

[Combat-Master]

These fackers getting shameless now

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1514687012879716358

 

[Ryder]

These fackers getting shameless now

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1514687012879716358

A snake is more trustable than a Greek

 

[Khagan1923]

These fackers getting shameless now

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1514687012879716358

Always were. Greece and the Armenian diaspora is probably the biggest bot user after Russia and China in the world.

Let them cry, Greece is a burden on NATO and EU. The best thing would be to kick them out of both to reduce load on both Organizations. Greece thinks it can use NATO and the EU to achieve its imperialistic and fascist dream it has attempted twice before and both times got an ottoman slap as an response.

Those times Turkey was on the brink of collapse after two wars. Now we have an almost self reliant defense industry. Enough partners(England the biggest one) that realize this and want to work with us. It is only a matter of time the US will come knocking on our door, trying to sell us the F-35 for cheap and offer partnerships in other projects. Meanwhile Greece will be still indebted to French banks trying to pay off the interest rates on the loans they took to buy second hand Fighters which will be outdated in 5 years and overpriced frigates which were never designed for the taks the Greek Navy intends to use them in while its infrastructre and health care system slowly but surely deteriorate. For their latest buying spree their PM plundered their souvereign funds. A country whose sole income lies in tourism.

A NATO members which never partakes in big exercises or NATO missions. A country which thinks it can break international law and then play the victim when its neighbors respond. Getting high on a fantasy ancient greek roots even though most greeks find their roots in the slavic world.

They even stopped their "deliveries" to Ukraine because they thought has a reward they should get backing against Turkey. And their "deliveries" were a couple hundred AK-47 they were sending to Hafter and then diverted to Ukraine. Pathetic country. Its whole political hierarchy is either steeped in fascism or communism. Its more likely they will tear each other apart before long than Turkey invading them. But hating on Turkey and playing the victim even though it is a country built on genocide and ethnic cleansing is the only thing that keeps them together for the short term.

Greece the only country to try and commit an ethnic cleansing and then turn around and play the victim.

If at least our enemies had a shred of honor. On one side Greece on the other Iran/Armenia.

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If their lobby groups are crying this much and the deal will most likely go through. We will see in the next couple weeks.
But interest that their are crying so much about the F-16V deal. I thought their super duper Rafales had given them absolute air superiority?

 

[Ryder]

Russians are pummelling Mairupol and the Greeks make it about Turkiye.

 

[Ryder]

Always have. Greece and the Armenian diaspora is probably the biggest bot user after Russia and China in the world.

Ataturk did the right thing in kicking them out while Erdogan is trying to invite them back.

 

[Ryder]

We have had Polish people living in Turkiye for centuries we dont see any kind of crap from Polish people.

Despite being our former enemies they have honour and respect. Cant say the same for Armenians or the Greeks.

 

[TNAHN]

These fackers getting shameless now

Not a single Turkish tourist should go to Greece.
Greece should be excluded from all energy projects.
Israeli gas must be brought to Turkey via northern cyprus. Israel's recognition of northern Cyprus should be ensured.
Diplomatic and military relations with the Balkan states should be developed. especially the albania and macedonian army should be strengthened, and military grants should be given if necessary.
Bulgaria should be incited against Greece. Bulgaria always dreams of reaching the Aegean Sea. This plan should be supported. Refugee migration to Greece should be accelerated, the violence of Greece against immigrants should be shown to the whole world.
Greece's support to the PKK terrorist organization, its persecution of refugees and the illegal arming of the Aegean Islands should be expressed on every platform.
We should talk about these issues so much that these unlawful attitudes of Greece should be known by heart by the world.
Every move made by Greece against Turkey must be retaliated with, and it must be shown that dealing with us has a price.

 

[Heartbang]

Not a single Turkish tourist should go to Greece.
Greece should be excluded from all energy projects.
Israeli gas must be brought to Turkey via northern cyprus. Israel's recognition of northern Cyprus should be ensured.
Diplomatic and military relations with the Balkan states should be developed. especially the albania and macedonian army should be strengthened, and military grants should be given if necessary.
Bulgaria should be incited against Greece. Bulgaria always dreams of reaching the Aegean Sea. This plan should be supported. Refugee migration to Greece should be accelerated, the violence of Greece against immigrants should be shown to the whole world.
Greece's support to the PKK terrorist organization, its persecution of refugees and the illegal arming of the Aegean Islands should be expressed on every platform.
We should talk about these issues so much that these unlawful attitudes of Greece should be known by heart by the world.
Every move made by Greece against Turkey must be retaliated with, and it must be shown that dealing with us has a price.

we need to establish a mini defence pact with Albania, Macedonia, Algeria, Bosnia, Kosovo and possibly Bulgaria. If Greece does those kind of deals with France and Israel, so can we.
Also, "upgrading" the insurrection going on in Corsica right now to an armed rebellion wouldn't hurt.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1515755325193920518

USAF new RAM paint for its F-16CJ (SEAD) Fleet. Claims 30% smaller RCS value.

I think it would be wise for us to develop and use our own RAM paint, maybe with the experience gained through TF-X, on our F-16 Fleet. 30% is not a small difference.

 

[MADDOG]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1515755325193920518

USAF new RAM paint for its F-16CJ (SEAD) Fleet. Claims 30% smaller RCS value.

I think it would be wise for us to develop and use our own RAM paint, maybe with the experience gained through TF-X, on our F-16 Fleet. 30% is not a small difference.

We've already developed RAM paint no? We used them on our subs I think. And this was years ago.

 

[Yasar_TR]

We've already developed RAM paint no? We used them on our subs I think. And this was years ago.

Ibrahim Sunnetci mentions it:
Quote:
A special hull constructed from fiberglass is placed on the outside of the pressure hull to reduce the acoustic signature and improve hydrodynamics. Carbon fiber materials are also partially used in the construction of the outer hull, which uses special Radar Absorber Materials (RAM) and paints. Under the leadership of STM, studies were carried out to produce RAM materials and paints to be used in REIS Class Submarines with domestic capabilities.
Unquote.

Type 214TN REIS Class TCG PİRİ REİS Submarine

www.defenceturkey.com

But apart from when it is at the surface and/or at periscope depth, Radar Absorbing Materials are not going to help the submarine much, especially when fully submerged. There are however ani sonar anechoic coatings. And they work.
But RAM coatings too are applied to subs, and have been helpful to mask radar signature of subs near the surface.

Radar: Invisibility to radar of submarines (stealth) - Museum Waalsdorp

SummaryIn the 1950s, the Royal Netherlands Navy collaborated with TNO to reduce radar detectability of submarines. Efforts focused on developing

www.museumwaalsdorp.nl

The RAM paint used for sea vessels and planes may or may not be the same. @Anmdt may comment on that more!

 

[Hexciter]

Turkey will send a new/more comprehensive request letter to the USA for 40 new F-16s.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1516080479417638913