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[Brave Janissary]

Marine/Amphibious Corps will have 3 brigades:
"As for the establishment of an Amphibious Corps in Çanakkale, such a decision was taken in accordance with the developing and strengthening force structure of our Naval Forces. In order to reorganize the Marine Corps at the Corps level, which consists of three brigades, and to use amphibious elements effectively in different regions, the Amphibious Corps Command was established within the Naval Forces Command."

MSB: Son bir haftada 73 terörist etkisiz hale getirildi

Milli Savunma Bakanlığı (MSB), Irak'ın ve Suriye'nin kuzeyi dahil yürütülen operasyonlarda son bir haftada 73 teröristin etkisiz hale getirildiğini bildirdi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

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Oruçreis underway. 12(4x3) ASM launchers visible.

source.

Looks like Oruç reis have a almost 360 degree 100 km x band radar coverage with help of back mar-d and gökdeniz mar-d search radar on front.

250 km s band pesa coverage for horizon search
100 km x band aesa coverage for volume search
100-120 km x band fire control radar.

Looks like good sensor mix for a light air defence frigate.

If siper will launch from mk-41 vls;

127mm cannon
10x Siper
24x Essm
12x Atmaca B2 (with Land Attack Capability)
6x Mark series Mark-46

Good mix.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Looks like Oruç reis have a almost 360 degree 100 km x band radar coverage with help of back mar-d and gökdeniz mar-d search radar on front.

250 km s band pesa coverage for horizon search
100 km x band aesa coverage for volume search
100-120 km x band fire control radar.

Looks like good sensor mix for a light air defence frigate.

If siper will launch from mk-41 vls;

127mm cannon
10x Siper
24x Essm
12x Atmaca B2 (with Land Attack Capability)
6x Mark series Mark-46

Good mix.

What about 3 other mekos warships upgrade ? No news about them yet

 

[Sanchez]

Looks like Oruç reis have a almost 360 degree 100 km x band radar coverage with help of back mar-d and gökdeniz mar-d search radar on front.

250 km s band pesa coverage for horizon search
100 km x band aesa coverage for volume search
100-120 km x band fire control radar.

Looks like good sensor mix for a light air defence frigate.

If siper will launch from mk-41 vls;

127mm cannon
10x Siper
24x Essm
12x Atmaca B2 (with Land Attack Capability)
6x Mark series Mark-46

Good mix.

Correct me If i remember wrong but 2 Track-IIA(Barbaros and Oruçreis) vessels only have 8 cell Mk41s, while for Track-IIBs(Salihreis and Kemalreis) it's 16.

What about 3 other mekos warships upgrade ? No news about them yet

MLU requires taking the ship from active service for at least a year. Oruçreis is out of action for more than 2 years at this point, going for almost 3. The program was already delayed by about a year in 2019 as the ship was required for operations. We know that program is well underway for the other ships but I don't think we will see any action on them before Oruçreis is delivered. As Yavuz and Fatih are now training ships, they might even wait until 2nd and 3rd Istifs are delivered to start the work on the other 3.

 

[dBSPL]

Marine/Amphibious Corps will have 3 brigades:
"As for the establishment of an Amphibious Corps in Çanakkale, such a decision was taken in accordance with the developing and strengthening force structure of our Naval Forces. In order to reorganize the Marine Corps at the Corps level, which consists of three brigades, and to use amphibious elements effectively in different regions, the Amphibious Corps Command was established within the Naval Forces Command."

I would like to see an amphibious brigade established in the Eastern Black Sea region. Thus, there will be an amphibious brigade headquarters in every sea in our country.

Also, I would like to see major naval base in Sürmene. Current sitiution in harbour mostly idle, whole area can be allocated to the naval forces, not partially but completely. So thus Navy can gain another important shipyard, just like Alaybey. This region also has a traditionally important culture of shipbuilding and repair activities, with generations of families working in this field, which could be instrumentalized for naval forces.

I would especially like the naval forces to have a strong presence in this region with training and support elements, even if not combatant, in our highly nationalistic and traditionally maritime region. The people of the Eastern Black Sea region are in love with their soldiers. In fact, it could be one of the most beautiful places in the country for military personnel to live with their families.According to many criteria such as geopolitical conditions of our country, political relations, and the depth of territorial waters, it can be a very valuable training area. As a matter of fact, ballistic firing tests conducted from Rize have recently been popular.

 

[Brave Janissary]

Correct me If i remember wrong but 2 Track-IIA(Barbaros and Oruçreis) vessels only have 8 cell Mk41s, while for Track-IIBs(Salihreis and Kemalreis) it's 16..

Yes. For this reason using Track-2’s stop gap of air defence frigate with İ classes and using Track I’s asw/asuw frigate more smarter. But diveding all class is very hard situation.

 

[Sanchez]

"USS Wasp (LHD 1) and USS Oak Hill (LSD 51) of the Wasp Amphibious Ready Group (WSP ARG)-24th Marine Expeditionary Unit operate together with TCG Anadolu (L 400) and TCG Gokova (F-496) in the Mediterranean Sea."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1824838606026096817

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Pretty light a/c load on the Anadolu, can see only two Seahawks. Wasp is here to shore up marine contingent support against Hezbollah. As they're going for light fleet maneuvers now instead, looks like Americans don't expect much retaliation.

 

[Kartal1]

"USS Wasp (LHD 1) and USS Oak Hill (LSD 51) of the Wasp Amphibious Ready Group (WSP ARG)-24th Marine Expeditionary Unit operate together with TCG Anadolu (L 400) and TCG Gokova (F-496) in the Mediterranean Sea."

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1824838606026096817

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Pretty light a/c load on the Anadolu, can see only two Seahawks. Wasp is here to shore up marine contingent support against Hezbollah. As they're going for light fleet maneuvers now instead, looks like Americans don't expect much retaliation.

They are probably configured for evacuation and enabling of hostage rescue operations. They are carrying the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) Special Operations Capable (SOC). If SHTF we may also see the first mission of Anadolu in this context, assisting evacuations.

The Turkish Navy already has an experience in Lebanon in this kind of events.

 

[Sanchez]

They are probably configured for evacuation and enabling of hostage rescue operations. They are carrying the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) Special Operations Capable (SOC). If SHTF we may also see the first mission of Anadolu in this context, assisting evacuations.

The Turkish Navy already has an experience in Lebanon in this kind of events.

If we see say some V-22 action on the Anadolu, that'd be a good sign that is the nature of the exercise. From what's published so far, it just looks like a simple stroll.

 

[boredaf]

If we see say some V-22 action on the Anadolu

I would sacrifice ungodly amounts of actual ospreys to see one of our companies being able to produce a VTOL aircraft like that.

 

[Strong AI]

Close Air Defense System for Naval Platforms #GÖKSUR ! With #GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System developed within the framework of the cooperation of


@SageTubitak
and
@aselsan
, our national ships will be protected against challenging air targets, especially anti-ship missiles flying close to the surface.

#GÖKSUR The tests of the GÖKSUR Missile, the high-capacity ammunition of the Product Family, were completed by TÜBİTAK SAGE in the Ankara Wind Tunnel.

GÖKSUR Close Air Defense System

360 degree Threat Destruction Capability,
New Generation Imager Infrared, IIR Seeker Head,
Fragmentation Warhead for Current Targets,
Multiple Target Interception Capability,
Ability to work independently and/or integrated with the platform,
Intermediate Stage Guidance with Data Link,
It will have many powerful features such as High Probability of Single Shot Interception.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1825554680845312106

 

[Strong AI]

A hero in the depths of #MaviVatan

Did you recognize him?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1825862621658063154

 

[Huelague]

@Anmdt
Can we bring all E/O systems, sensors, radar, antennas etc, under one hull, like the "Visby" frigates, for more stealth property?

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt
Can we bring all E/O systems, sensors, radar, antennas etc, under one hull, like the "Visby" frigates, for more stealth property?

Visby is an extreme example for stealthy measures and one would question if it worths the buck and the trouble. Most navies focus on functionality and maintainability. The ship itself is also made of composites so the remaining of measures have been meaningful for them but again composite structures beyond a size is not easy to build or put together with steel.

For the E/O system it either needs to be retractable or with angled glass surfaces similar to IRST/EOTS on the airplanes and embedded to hull with a reflector on top. For the radar it is common to use. From this logic we can apply IRST/EOTS technologies from stealth airplanes on the naval platforms but i don't know how applicable it is.

It also depends on which platform we are specifically talking about, or which E/O. Ahtapot E/O or also tracking radars would rather require a retractable mount. PIRI IRST possibly could be placed in a glass container and mounted in a mast (like it will possibly be done for TF-2000 in latter stages).

 

[Heartbang]

The ship itself is also made of composites so the remaining of measures have been meaningful for them but again composite structures beyond a size is not easy to build or put together with steel.

If they ever venture out from the Baltic sea, those ships would snap in two like that Ukrainian freighter that sank in the Black sea.

 

[Anmdt]

If they ever venture out from the Baltic sea, those ships would snap in two like that Ukrainian freighter that sank in the Black sea.

https://e-lass.eu/media/2021/02/03_Visby-Class-Corvettes-Saab-Kockums.pdf

Contrary to most "novel design" offices, Saab ensures the strength of the hull with full scale shock* and high speed high seas trials. They also work closely with DNV which is one of the well known classification society if it is about high speed or military crafts (note: even Turkish MRTP SOF's are certified by DNV)

Unlike the common ways, Swedes here conduct the tests successively in a controlled area - lake instead of open seas to better isolate environmental effects.

Visby is a good but very expensive design where Saab and other contractors have poured crazy amount of money to get it work, through a decade or more. And now Saab highly benefits from this experience by producing composite supperstructures - masts and selling it globally and being the only address for such designs.

 

[Strong AI]

If we see say some V-22 action on the Anadolu, that'd be a good sign that is the nature of the exercise. From what's published so far, it just looks like a simple stroll.

"In the photos shared by USS Wasp during the exercise, the MV-22 Ospray Tiltrotor aircraft taking off from USS Wasp performed landing and take-off training on TCG ANADOLU."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1828317387457790214

 

[Sanchez]

"In the photos shared by USS Wasp during the exercise, the MV-22 Ospray Tiltrotor aircraft taking off from USS Wasp performed landing and take-off training on TCG ANADOLU."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1828317387457790214

As expected Seems COs of Wasp, 4th amphip group and the 24th MEU also visited Anadolu. We haven't seen much about it in the media, but this was a pretty big occasion. Less so for the training but the diplomacy part.

WSP ARG-24th MEU (SOC) Conducts Bilateral Exercise with Turkish Navy

MEDITERRANEAN SEA (Aug. 17, 2024) Capt. Christopher Purcell, commanding officer of the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1), receives the gift of a command ballcap from Turkish Naval Forces Capt. Nadir Kilinc, commanding officer of the amphibious assault ship TCG Anadolu (L 400), during a...

www.dvidshub.net

 

[Fatman17]

ASFAT delivers 3000-tonne submarine dock to Turkish Navy https://www.navalnews.com/naval-new...rs-3000-tonne-submarine-dock-to-turkish-navy/

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Quasar]

To address the point defence needs of Turkish surface combatants, Aselsan is developing the Göksur, and Roketsan is working on the Levent point defence missile systems. Both systems are currently in the development phase and are expected to begin trials soon.

According to a U.S. House of Representatives report, the U.S. government approved the FMS of 94 RIM-116 missiles for the Turkish Navy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1828797815897854109

According to the report, the FMS, valued at $90 million, includes the sale of 94 Mk 44 MOD 4 (tactical) RAM Guided Missile Round Packs, 3 Mk 47 MOD 9 telemeter missiles, and 1 blast test vehicle. The package also covers transportation and storage containers, as well as technical data from the U.S. Navy’s RAM Program Office on behalf of RAM-System GmbH (RAMSYS) for the Turkish Navy.

The missiles will be deployed on the Turkish Navy’s ADA-class corvettes, which are equipped with the RAM point defence missile system as part of their self-defence capabilities. Originally, the system was intended to be installed on I-class frigates, but after U.S. sanctions were imposed, the Turkish defence industry opted to mount the indigenous Gökdeniz 35-mm close-in weapon system (CIWS) on the TCG Istanbul instead.

@Tayfun Ozberk