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I didn't pay that big of an attention to aerofoil for um, blender meshes are really pain in ass when it comes to UAV wings
 

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Sure, structural shape is where the most "stealth" comes from, but how to see such from a CGI picture is another story!
 

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Something else

TEI is developing the TF6000 Turbofan engine. Could this be for MIUS?
It has a lot to do with airframe design. But;
Taking TEI’s way of naming it’s products, TF6000 relates to an engine that has 6000lbf thrust. If that is dry thrust, then we are looking at an engine with 9-10000lbf thrust with afterburners.
Czech Albatros L-39 has a 3800lbf AI-25 turbofan engine. It has a 3500kg empty weight with a MTOW of 4700kg. This plane has a 750 km/hr max speed.
A TF6000 should easily fly Baykar’s MIUS. It could even be used for the supersonic MIUS.
 

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TEI is usually using the naming for horse power, like TS1400 is a 1400 hp engine

TF6000 could be a turbo fan engine of 6000hp
 

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The engine industry uses Shaft HP for turboshaft engines and libre force or Newton for turbofan engines. TEI is no different. TF6000 should be 6000 lbf as TEI comes from GE legacy.

NewtonKilogram-forceLibre-force
1 N≡ 1 kg·m/s2≈ 0.10197 kg-f≈ 0.22481 lb-f
1 kg-f= 9.80665 Ng·(1 kg)≈ 2.2046 lb-f
1 lb-f≈ 4.448222 N≈ 0.45359 kg-fg·(1 lb)
 

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F404 is something like 16.000 lbf, so if TF6000 is realy 6000 lbf it won't power the Hurjet but MIUS maybe.
 

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TEI is usually using the naming for horse power, like TS1400 is a 1400 hp engine

TF6000 could be a turbo fan engine of 6000hp
You can not have HP for a turbofan or turbojet. But you can have lbf or KN thrust. Like tj300. (Turbojet 300lbf thrust)
Physics dictates that a turboshaft and Turboprop engine‘s output can be quantified in “shaft horsepower“. But a turbojet and turbofan engine’s output can only be quantified in lbf or KN “Thrust” .
Through this logic it is only normal to think that the TF6000 will be a 6000lbf thrust level TurboFan.
 

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I hope that TEI again announced safe numbers with TF6000 (6000LBF)

As if I remember not wrong they mentioned before that with the TJ1400 an 11000LBF Turbofan and 1600hp Turboprop can be developed
 

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F404 is something like 16.000 lbf, so if TF6000 is realy 6000 lbf it won't power the Hurjet but MIUS maybe.
F404 has a number of variants.
These are:
F404-GE-102 : 17700lbf
F404-GE-IN20 : 19000lbf
F404-GE-RM12 : 18100lbf
The rumour in the grapevine at one point was that, a 19000lbf level engine was to be used on Hurjet.
But it is now becoming more likely that the 17700lbf engine will be powering the Hurjet’s trainer version.
(IN20 version of the f404 engine was the version specifically produced for Indian airforce.)

If Hurjet were produced as a twin engined jet, 2 x TF6000 engines would have been sufficient.
 

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I hope that TEI again announced safe numbers with TF6000 (6000LBF)

As if I remember not wrong they mentioned before that with the TJ1400 an 11000LBF Turbofan and 1600hp Turboprop can be developed
TS1400 engine is a turbo shaft engine. It was produced as a replacement of Honeywell CTS800 Used in T-129.
Unfortunately this engine has a radial flow compressor section. To produce a turbofan from this engine the compressor section and the turbine section will have to be redesigned with axial flow compressors and bypass systems. In other words the whole engine inside has to be remade from new. If this is done then the TS1400 shell will end up as a Turbofan with an afterburner thrust of approximately 9500-11000lbf .
As not much change to the engine inside will be needed, a turboprop will be easier to produce.
 

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Yes TS stands for Turbo shaft, my mistake. I meant TJ1400 the core engine

I don't know much about jet engines but Mahmut Aksit himself is telling that from the same TJ1400 core engine they can derive Turbojet, Turboshaft, Turbofan and Turboprop engines

 
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