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A twin engine MIUS should be somewhat larger to take more fuel to say the least. It can still keep the same form though.
 

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Twin engine vairant could be coming much later that May be designed to fit 2 tf 10000 engine that could provide
Higher altitude
Higher mach number
Higher payload
Increased agility
And many more advantages.
It will probably increase complecity of control algorithm in a possible dogfiht or bvr, sead engagament.
 

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Keep in mind that twin engine variant will have a thicker and wider fuselage to accomodate 2 engines, probably going to be larger than a F-16
 

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Bayraktar TB2 SİHA of the Ethiopian Armed Forces hit a warehouse belonging to the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) in Mekele, the capital of Tigray Province, on 30 August 2022.

As seen Turkey's ASELSAN produced CATS E/O camera and MAM-L ammunition were used from the platform.


To note, you can see how brilliantly Aselsan's MWIR sensor handles explosions - recovers almost immediately after thermal black-out.

Much quicker recovery, compared to Candian WESCAM MX-15
 
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The image is definitely taken by CATS.

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Hello can anybody comment on the stealth capability of Kizilelma, will it be at the same level as F35 or worse?
Also does anybody know unit price of Kizilelma drone?
 

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Hello can anybody comment on the stealth capability of Kizilelma, will it be at the same level as F35 or worse?
Also does anybody know unit price of Kizilelma drone?

F-35 stealth is better, simply because it has to be - it's being flown by a human pilot.

Kizilelma's cost will be more affordable than to it's western counterparts, I would guestimate $50mil per plane and associated equipment required to maintain and operate the aircraft.
 

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Hello can anybody comment on the stealth capability of Kizilelma, will it be at the same level as F35 or worse?
Also does anybody know unit price of Kizilelma drone?
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@flankerchan in Twitter did a study on Kızılelma based solely on the shape of the aircraft. since then the shape of the aircraft got optimized further. I can confidently say that when its ready Kızılelma will be even better than the F35 in terms of X-band stealth(the kind that matters)
 

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Hello can anybody comment on the stealth capability of Kizilelma, will it be at the same level as F35 or worse?
Also does anybody know unit price of Kizilelma drone?


Same level for sure but what makes F35 great is sensor package. It will be difficult to find KE like the F35. It will be cheap then a F35 and not expensive to maintain to. You can look to the shape and judge who is more stealth.

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@flankerchan in Twitter did a study on Kızılelma based solely on the shape of the aircraft. since then the shape of the aircraft got optimized further. I can confidently say that when its ready Kızılelma will be even better than the F35 in terms of X-band stealth(the kind that matters)

isn’t the RCS of F-35 something like 0.005? Your table says 0.24 for KE.
 

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That was because of old model (no canted canard and not a really good model, we need him to make a newer one, and this one doesn't take the account of RAM/RAP etc

so we don’t actually know wether KE will be more stealth or even close to F-35. As you mention, RAM is important and we don’t know how good Türkiye’s paint is
 

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