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[YeşilVatan]

Oversaturation?

Not if they are going to branch that out from TF-X and use the platform for extensive testing of subsystems in a few short years.

I'm going to be honest, BAYKAR is an absolute positive, but the most advanced stuff shuld be made by state owned companies. My spider senses suggest they uitmately want to be the defence company of 'the ummah' and not the Turkish nation. I would really like our allies having Kızılelma, but something like an unmanned TF-X should exist and be handled by the state as the strategic weapon it is.

 

[Bürküt]

Slowly we are getting there.

@Knowledgeseeker I think he is referring to this post of TAI

 

[Philip the Arab]

@YeşilVatan
I understand what you mean, the Baykar platform would be 6/10 and the TAI platform would be 10/10 in terms of capabilites for example.

 

[zio]

I expect lhgk 84 (Turkish way laser guided bomb) and Akbaba anti radiation missile

Anka 3 could carry supersonik target drone and release it for airdefences to stay on working positions to be targeted later by akbaba missile.

 

[Test7]

How much can they steal roles from F-16?

F4 rather than F16 would be a more accurate question

 

[Oublious]

Not if they are going to branch that out from TF-X and use the platform for extensive testing of subsystems in a few short years.

I'm going to be honest, BAYKAR is an absolute positive, but the most advanced stuff shuld be made by state owned companies. My spider senses suggest they uitmately want to be the defence company of 'the ummah' and not the Turkish nation. I would really like our allies having Kızılelma, but something like an unmanned TF-X should exist and be handled by the state as the strategic weapon it is.

No, state company or private company we need competition. Look to America, they have 4 companies making drone and non of them are state company. Boeing, Lockheed, General Atomics and Northrop.

 

[Philip the Arab]

No, state company or private company we need competition. Look to America, they have 4 companies making drone and non of them are state company. Boeing, Lockheed, General Atomics and Northrop.

America and Turkey are different, America has a huge amount of contracts and tenders for different aircraft competitions allowing for multiple companies to exist and compete in a way that wouldn't work for most other nations.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

We saw ANKA-3, which was developed for the Air-Ground Attack mission. So, are we ready for ANKA-4, which was developed for the Air-Air Combat mission.

TAI making an unmanned fighter jet similar to kizilelma?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1637183100768641025

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

@Knowledgeseeker I think he is referring to this post of TAI

Indeed its the presentation from TAI, however, the presentation is quite old. Kizilelma was not present as a project at that time.

 

[boredaf]

TAI's time would be better used by improving/perfecting TF-X, Anka-3 and other platforms like Aksungur/Göksungur than putting their resources into an air superiority drone to compete with KE, imo.

 

[Oublious]

America and Turkey are different, America has a huge amount of contracts and tenders for different aircraft competitions allowing for multiple companies to exist and compete in a way that wouldn't work for most other nations.

If we did not have Baykar lol we would still talking about ANKA. How long did time untill it was finished? Tusas with Temel Kotil changed a lot, he comes from private company. Competition is needed in Turkish industry.

 

[Bürküt]

Indeed its the presentation from TAI, however, the presentation is quite old. Kizilelma was not present as a project at that time.

Yeah it's old indeed. They might realize that's enough they went so far

 

[Philip the Arab]

If we did not have Baykar lol we would still talking about ANKA. How long did time untill it was finished? Tusas with Temel Kotil changed a lot, he comes from private company. Competition is needed in Turkish industry.

Competition is healthy I agree, but the government should also make sure that Baykar can survive. Competition is what killed a lot of American aerospace companies, or made them merge with others.

 

[Agha Sher]

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With all due respect, TAI simply got more important projects at hand. Let Baykar handle the A2A stealth drone.

 

[uçuyorum]

With all due respect, TAI simply got more important projects at hand. Let Baykar handle the A2A stealth drone.

Isn't that counter intuitive? I'd imagine a proper stealth air to air fighter would require more sophistication and TAI would have more experience on that subject, whereas Baykar would probably make a more cost effective multi purpose drone against weaker targets. So like a drone to fight against su27 and a drone to possibly spar with f35 would be different.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Competition is healthy I agree, but the government should also make sure that Baykar can survive. Competition is what killed a lot of American aerospace companies, or made them merge with others.

Competition is healthy, but is it necessary when kizilelma is doing the job? Baykar Mina would do well even if TAI introduced its own unmanned fighter jet with high export volumes around the world.

 

[MADDOG]

"While I was on the Çanakkale flight with HÜRKUŞ yesterday, GÖKBEY, ANKA and AKSUNGUR were test flying, MMU was starting the engine, HÜRJET was getting ready for the first taxi, and ANKA-III was being taken to engine tests!…"

"I would love to be able to explain what I feel, but right now, I am under the attack of very intense and strong emotions, like all TAI employees!"

"Like all TAI members, who have been working hard with determination, by not abandoning the ship, never giving up, seeing all difficulties as attractive, despite the unbelievers who have been saying that these planes cannot be built for years!"

"By the way, it took a while for ANKA-III, whose photo we shared, to come to your attention due to the difficulties in its production with its delta wing geometry, which does not have a vertical surface, but I want you to know that this appearance contains technological secrets that will give it an edge over all its competitors.
"Secret" for now..."

-Murat Özpala CAT-1 test pilot of Hürkuş

 

[Agha Sher]

Isn't that counter intuitive? I'd imagine a proper stealth air to air fighter would require more sophistication and TAI would have more experience on that subject, whereas Baykar would probably make a more cost effective multi purpose drone against weaker targets. So like a drone to fight against su27 and a drone to possibly spar with f35 would be different.

Baykar believes KE will be superior to F35 in the future. Maybe TAI can help Baykar with some expertise. We need to use TAIs ressources as efficiently as possible to make sure that Anka 3, Hurjet and TF-X becomes successes.

 

[MADDOG]

"By the way, it took a while for ANKA-III, whose photo we shared, to come to your attention due to the difficulties in its production with its delta wing geometry, which does not have a vertical surface, but I want you to know that this appearance contains technological secrets that will give it an edge over all its competitors.
"Secret" for now..."

-Murat Özpala CAT-1 test pilot of Hürkuş

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

My brain is overclocking at this moment.