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tb2 still active duty in Ukraine, it being used for targeting and ISR missions. Much important then hitting tanks.

 

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tb2 still active duty in Ukraine, it being used for targeting and ISR missions. Much important then hitting tanks.

They are fulfilling the original purpose they were bought for. In addition to that, they humiliated Russian air defense systems, likely causing billions of dollars in export deals to fall through. Quite a treat for a small price of 4 million dollars.

Does anyone have the tweet of Ukrainians using MTS-B on TB-2?
 

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There is an noteworthy detail about the targeted fleet structure between the lines of the article shared by Hayrani Öz hoca about the US (CCA-Collaborative Combat Aircraft) Program: Two CCA-Collaborative Combat Aircraft will accompany each of the 6th generation manned aircraft and the F35A. This means that roughly +1000 unmanned CCA aircraft will join the inventory.

These CCAs promise innovations that will maximize the tactical capabilities of air forces capable of collaborative use in network-centric warfare doctrines. 1 manned combat jet to 2 unmanned jets may become the accepted ratio in the future. From this point of view, some predictions can be made on the fleet structure of the Turkish Air Force in the future. In short, the total production numbers targeted for KE-1, KE-X, ANKA-3 and ANKA-X may be in the triple digits for each. And for smaller wingman UAVS, the production numbers may reach four digits.

Another conclusion to be drawn from this is that the development of unmanned systems will lead to a platform-based inventory expansion of the air forces in the coming period. Thousands of flying systems, large and small, and mostly unmanned, will be kept in active inventory. This situation makes the domestic production of propulsion systems, starting from small diameter and weight propulsion systems to more advanced and large turbofans, even more essential.
 
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Is that good or bad, that the cannards are being used to force the front landing gear down ?

Or is it being done just for this occasion ?
 

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Is that good or bad, that the cannards are being used to force the front landing gear down ?

Or is it being done just for this occasion ?
Using canards as airbrakes is pretty normal. It's a bit more aggressive here because they didn't want it to get airborne any longer than it didn't need to.
 

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Since Türkiye's twin-engine UCAVs (in development) will hit supersonic speeds, would it make sense to implement Divertless Supersonic inlet (DSI)?
Diverterless Supersonic Inlet with its ugly bump is an ingenious invention of an Italian scientist, Antonio Ferri in the 1950s. However it could not be exploited to the full then, due to the lack of computer power to implement it fully, through Computational Fluid Dynamics.
It solves the unwanted interference of boundary layer airflow problems without any moving parts and imparts low RCS characteristics to the plane by hiding the fanblades of the engine.

If you check the intake of f22, it uses a serpentine shaped ramp intake, that has a gap between the fuselage and the inlet to stop the boundary layer airflow to impede with inlet’s airflow.

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But if you look at the YF35’s DSI set up, it has a bump to deflect and decrease supersonic air flow speed to give controlled air pressure to the compressors.
The function of the air intake is mainly to prevent boundary layer ingestion and pressure recovery across various angles of attack. They accomplish this feat by separating the turbulent boundary layer of the fuselage from the air entering the compressor via different means and they control the location of shock waves formed in them.
The DSI achieves this with more than 95% efficiency.

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There are however certain limitations; because the DSI has no moving parts and they provide most efficient pressure recovery only at a particular Mach numbers, usually between Mach 1-2. The efficiency decreases with both positive and negative deviation from the sweet spot. Therefore, an intake with a mobile device such as a cone or a ramp can be efficient at larger range of Mach as they can mechanically move the mobile devices to control the position of the shock wave.

Since modern fighters are not limited by speed/ thrust and rather emphasise on low observability, it is not surprising that we are now seeing the DSI application in a variety of combat platforms more and more.
 

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Anka-3 UAV successfully completes 1st live-fire test.

The live-fire test was carried out using the AF500 electro-optic camera system, produced by Aselsan, and the Teber-82 guidance kit, developed by Roketsan.

 

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I thought the first prototype would have it.
Mate, these are regular aircraft development phases. Western aircrafts have average 9-11 prototypes in development phase. Some of them is only used for ground tests, some of them is only used for testing flight dynamics, some of them is only used for testing the avionics, and some of them is used for weapon integration. This is just the first prototype. It would be normal if it didn't even fly.
 

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And here's the first flight of Kızılelma PT-3, finally! As expected, no AB action for the first flight, pretty regular.

I really, kind of desperately, hope this prototype also have an IWB so that they can start weapons testing as soon as possible. I can't wait until it starts flying with TF6000, I might even fucking cry on that day 🥺
 

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I really, kind of desperately, hope this prototype also have an IWB so that they can start weapons testing as soon as possible. I can't wait until it starts flying with TF6000, I might even fucking cry on that day 🥺
If Baykar's social media activities during the AKINCI and TB-3 test processes continue, we will see more test footage being shared than we would like. So much so that after a while we won't even share some of them here :) The long and arduous journey of KE begins.
 

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Maybe it will never fly with TEI made engines.

[...] Haluk Bayraktar adds: “Last year, Baykar decided to invest in engines. We will invest $300 million into engine production within the next five years. Within four years, we will be building Bayraktar KIZILELMA’s engine." [...]

That's interesting, because it has been mentioned multiple times that it would use TF6000. Given that designing, testing and producing an engine takes a long time (and 300 million is really not that much to invest in engines), perhaps TF6000 can be a short term option while Baykar designs its own engine for the future. Perhaps for the two engine variant, that's supposed to be the final form of KE.
 
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