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it's the fourth prototype and they still have no functioning landing gear mechanism to fold them in. they can't push the envelope when the legs are dangling below.

Two years ago, it made its first flight with retracted landing gear. The aircraft underwent structural modifications, and we will soon see flights with retracted landing gear again. GürSavunma will prepare the landing gear. (The company that produces landing gear for TB2 - Akıncı)
 

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it's the fourth prototype and they still have no functioning landing gear mechanism to fold them in. they can't push the envelope when the legs are dangling below.


Kızılelma has been flying by folding its wheels for a long time, PT4 has just been produced, each produced prototype first flies without the wheels folded, after passing some tests they continue their tests by folding the wheels.
 

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Two years ago, it made its first flight with retracted landing gear. The aircraft underwent structural modifications, and we will soon see flights with retracted landing gear again. GürSavunma will prepare the landing gear. (The company that produces landing gear for TB2 - Akıncı)
ok I totally forgot about this. so it's been flying two and a half years now without much expansion of the flight envelope. also, in the footage it has no landing gear bay doors for the main gears, much like AKINCI. That needs to change if we're aiming for stealth and supersonic flight.
 

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ok I totally forgot about this. so it's been flying two and a half years now without much expansion of the flight envelope. also, in the footage it has no landing gear bay doors for the main gears, much like AKINCI. That needs to change if we're aiming for stealth and supersonic flight.

When BaykarTech realizes that things need to accelerate with Kızılelma, they will speed up everything. They must also see the deficiencies and errors. For acceleration, the companies in their ecosystem also need to provide assistance. PT-6 may need to undergo structural innovations once again.

PT1 - Take-off Weight : 6500kg
PT4 - Take-off Weight : 8500kg

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BAYRAKTAR TB3 Test Flight Program
Comprehensive Test Results and Performance Data (2023–2025)

This table has been created based on official statements.
Last updated: 05/14/2025​

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This is my own coded webpage that only runs on my computer.
You should put it on a server. That could be incredibly useful for people who don't wanna dig up hundreds of pages to gather only the official news or substantiated claims. You could list all the platform specific progress, chronologically.

Is that WordPress?
 

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What do you guys think would the scope for using these Kizilelmas as specialized electronic warfare jets like the Growler?

It will have a smaller engine for one, so it wouldnt have the power generation of a typical modern EW jet. If Baykar is able to work the AI up to sufficient competency, perhaps deploying autonomous Kizilelmas into contested airspaces like the Aegean, as low cost EW nodes?
 

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“Aggressive maneuver” with the untracked wheels?
That indicates that it's the first test of the kind. It's a common practice or protocol to keep the landing gear down during maiden flights and different initial tests of an aircraft mostly for swift recovery if something goes awry. I believe it's mainly to land the aircraft safely in case of a system malfunction.
 

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What do you guys think would the scope for using these Kizilelmas as specialized electronic warfare jets like the Growler?

It will have a smaller engine for one, so it wouldnt have the power generation of a typical modern EW jet. If Baykar is able to work the AI up to sufficient competency, perhaps deploying autonomous Kizilelmas into contested airspaces like the Aegean, as low cost EW nodes?
I think a naval Hürjet would be an ideal platform for that.
 

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I have no proof and this is all my own feeling. I feel that the South Koreans, just like the Germans, will feel ashamed when they buy anything other than ammunition from Türkiye.

So I think that South Korea will not buy a sophisticated weapons system from Türkiye unless it is absolutely necessary.
 

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So I think that South Korea will not buy a sophisticated weapons system from Türkiye unless it is absolutely necessary.

...they may not be sophisticated weapons, but they have acquired highly advanced flight simulators.

Havelsan exported flight simulators to South Korea in the 2000s and later other Turkish manufacturers as well:

https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/turkiye-ilk-kez-simulator-ihrac-etti-3927362

https://www.defenceturkey.com/tr/ic...kore-ye-yara-savunma-simulatoru-ihracati-2590

https://www.savunmasanayist.com/guney-korenin-savas-ucagi-simulatorune-quantum3d-imzasi/
 
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