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[Anmdt]

Dear what would you say if i offered designing Aksungur platform with 3 or 4 APG-68 radars? Due to TurAF replacesment of new AESE radars with APG-68 we will have undeployed app 250 radars. Why not using Aksungur as UAV AWACS ? Frontal, right , left and rear looking 4 APG-68 fighter radars could search deliberately any aerospace.
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* İ've further crazy idea: adding 8 AMRAAM on it, you would get flying, mobile, unmanned, Air defence / SAM system


Edit: here is the double engined OV-1 D Mohawk with side looking radar.
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I think it fits better to Akıncı, more power to supply demand of the electronics and radars.
Maybe Aselsan soon is going to introduce some conforming AESA arrays (apart from multi purpose AESA radar) to equip Akıncı or future drone with it
Also Akdoğan is going to be lighter so 4-6-8 can be carried smoothly.

 

[Siper>MMU]

Probably Aksungur will be equipped with a side looking AESA radar.

 

[kimov]

Dear what would you say if i offered designing Aksungur platform with 3 or 4 APG-68 radars? Due to TurAF replacesment of new AESE radars with APG-68 we will have undeployed app 250 radars. Why not using Aksungur as UAV AWACS ? Frontal, right , left and rear looking 4 APG-68 fighter radars could search deliberately any aerospace.
View attachment 23149
* İ've further crazy idea: adding 8 AMRAAM on it, you would get flying, mobile, unmanned, Air defence / SAM system


Edit: here is the double engined OV-1 D Mohawk with side looking radar.
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I believe that we will see a 3-5m long side viewing radar on Aksungur within few years. It would probably be located below the central fuselage similar to your image of the Mohawk.

 

[Kaan Azman]

" * İ've further crazy idea: adding 8 AMRAAM on it, you would get flying, mobile, unmanned, Air defence / SAM system "

Akıncı is likely to fill that role with nose AESA radar+Gökdoğan/Akdoğan+HERİKKS and other air defense assets. Certainly some gourmet stuff for places like Agean sea where low to medium altitude air defense is important

 

[kimov]

" * İ've further crazy idea: adding 8 AMRAAM on it, you would get flying, mobile, unmanned, Air defence / SAM system "

Akıncı is likely to fill that role with nose AESA radar+Gökdoğan/Akdoğan+HERİKKS and other air defense assets. Certainly some gourmet stuff for places like Agean sea where low to medium altitude air defense is important

I think this will be the role of Göksungur or MIUS.

 

[Kaan Azman]

Loitering around for 10-12 hours and loitering around for a few hours are different things. Point being, MIUS and Akıncı will defend the airspace in different ways. Akıncı can hang around for a longer time with lower kinematic performance, thus shorter engagement range compared to MIUS. Either way, both will significantly lower the workload of our manned aircraft.

 

[Sinan]

Akıncı's shape is based on providing more lift, which is another reason Akıncı has somewhat better service ceiling. If you take a look at birds' wings you can see another similarity based on the same principle. Birds can fly around with minimal power thanks to their wings and even bodies based on providing more lift.

Gull wings of Akıncı has nothing to do with " If you take a look at birds' wings you can see another similarity based on the same principle. Birds can fly around with minimal power thanks to their wings and even bodies based on providing more lift."

You might wanna google "Gull wings"

P.S: To give ground clearance to propellers.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Having a wide range weapon systems diversity, #AKSUNGUR have used MAM-L, KGK-SİHA-82 and TEBER-82.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404837971950456838

 

[Stuka]

TAI Ömer Yıldız, Assistant General Manager of UAV Systems:

- We will produce 6 AKSUNGURs by the end of the year, 2 of which are prototypes and 4 are mass production. We plan to deliver these 4 to the Turkish Armed Forces by the end of the year.

- "We have not started marketing AKSUNGUR abroad at the moment, we are going through ANKA."
(In addition, 8 AKSUNGURs will be produced in 2022. Thus, the number of AKSUNGURs produced in 2 years will be 14.)

- We provide fire prevention and notification service to Forest Department . (Note: Forest Department did not buy UAVs.)
Until the end of the year, we will integrate base stations into AKSUNGUR.
Thus, in disaster situations (emergency situations, fire prevention, etc.), the teams on the ground will communicate with each other via the base station on our aircraft.

- "We are also preparing AKSUNGUR for maritime patrol missions. Currently, we are giving our aircraft acoustic listening capability for anti-submarine warfare.
We'll be listening to Sonobuoys in a month, and we'll be releasing them by the end of the year."

- "The ANKAs we will deliver to Tunisia in the first week of July will perform the factory acceptance tests here, pack our planes and send them to Tunisia."

- "We are working on the jet-powered UAV line. But what I can explain to you is that we will have 1 jet-powered target aircraft that will fly at supersonic speed by the end of this year. We will announce when we finish the others."
(The name of the target plane is Göksungur.)
What @TheInsider and @Bogeyman have been saying.

https://twitter.com/TyrannosurusRex

 

[Combat-Master]

 

[TheInsider]

TAI Ömer Yıldız, Assistant General Manager of UAV Systems:

- We will produce 6 AKSUNGURs by the end of the year, 2 of which are prototypes and 4 are mass production. We plan to deliver these 4 to the Turkish Armed Forces by the end of the year.

- "We have not started marketing AKSUNGUR abroad at the moment, we are going through ANKA."
(In addition, 8 AKSUNGURs will be produced in 2022. Thus, the number of AKSUNGURs produced in 2 years will be 14.)

- We provide fire prevention and notification service to Forest Department . (Note: Forest Department did not buy UAVs.)
Until the end of the year, we will integrate base stations into AKSUNGUR.
Thus, in disaster situations (emergency situations, fire prevention, etc.), the teams on the ground will communicate with each other via the base station on our aircraft.

- "We are also preparing AKSUNGUR for maritime patrol missions. Currently, we are giving our aircraft acoustic listening capability for anti-submarine warfare.
We'll be listening to Sonobuoys in a month, and we'll be releasing them by the end of the year."

- "The ANKAs we will deliver to Tunisia in the first week of July will perform the factory acceptance tests here, pack our planes and send them to Tunisia."

- "We are working on the jet-powered UAV line. But what I can explain to you is that we will have 1 jet-powered target aircraft that will fly at supersonic speed by the end of this year. We will announce when we finish the others."
(The name of the target plane is Göksungur.)
What @TheInsider and @Bogeyman have been saying.

https://twitter.com/TyrannosurusRex

Well, it is officially confirmed now. Let's see if the details I gave about one of the other jet UAVs turn out to be true. I heard some of them from the people close to the defense industry guesstimated the others.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

TAI Ömer Yıldız, Assistant General Manager of UAV Systems:

- We will produce 6 AKSUNGURs by the end of the year, 2 of which are prototypes and 4 are mass production. We plan to deliver these 4 to the Turkish Armed Forces by the end of the year.

- "We have not started marketing AKSUNGUR abroad at the moment, we are going through ANKA."
(In addition, 8 AKSUNGURs will be produced in 2022. Thus, the number of AKSUNGURs produced in 2 years will be 14.)

- We provide fire prevention and notification service to Forest Department . (Note: Forest Department did not buy UAVs.)
Until the end of the year, we will integrate base stations into AKSUNGUR.
Thus, in disaster situations (emergency situations, fire prevention, etc.), the teams on the ground will communicate with each other via the base station on our aircraft.

- "We are also preparing AKSUNGUR for maritime patrol missions. Currently, we are giving our aircraft acoustic listening capability for anti-submarine warfare.
We'll be listening to Sonobuoys in a month, and we'll be releasing them by the end of the year."

- "The ANKAs we will deliver to Tunisia in the first week of July will perform the factory acceptance tests here, pack our planes and send them to Tunisia."

- "We are working on the jet-powered UAV line. But what I can explain to you is that we will have 1 jet-powered target aircraft that will fly at supersonic speed by the end of this year. We will announce when we finish the others."
(The name of the target plane is Göksungur.)
What @TheInsider and @Bogeyman have been saying.

https://twitter.com/TyrannosurusRex

I think we will see these jet drones with more or less these features next 3-5 years.

• Göksungur supersonic decoy target drone - MALD equivalent (2021 first flight)
• TAI TISU strategic jet drone (Dassault Neuron equivalent in terms of size) TEI-Tj6000 turbojet
• Bayraktar MIUS fighter jet drone (bigger than XQ-58A Valkyrie in terms of size and payload)

 

[Spook]

I think we will see these jet drones with more or less these features next 3-5 years.

• Göksungur supersonic decoy target drone - MALD equivalent (2021 first flight)
• TAI TISU strategic fighter jet drone (Dassault Neuron equivalent in terms of size) ~8-9ton MTOW, TEI-Tj6000 turbojet motor
• Bayraktar MIUS tactic fighter jet drone (bigger than XQ-58A Valkyrie or X47A equivalents in terms of size and payload)

There is not many off the shelve supersonic target drones you can buy. Göksungur is pretty important considering the air defense programs. I believe Göksungur will have different variants including target drones.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

There is not many off the shelve supersonic target drones you can buy. Göksungur is pretty important considering the air defense programs. I believe Göksungur will have different variants including target drones.

TAI has stated that they've converted the Simsek target drones into kamikaze drones to be launched from aircraft.
I expect the same with Göksungur. With a slight modification these babies could be lethal kamikaze drones.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Actually, TAI is still following the steps that was introduced in his drone roadway document. Some projects may have been eliminated or some may have changed the concept but I think What TAI is doing in general or which direction they are following right now can still be seen from this image.

 

[Spook]

Actually, TAI is still following the steps that was introduced in his drone roadway document. Some projects may have been eliminated or some may have changed the concept but I think What TAI is doing in general or which direction they are following right now can still be seen from this image.

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I wonder if there is atmospheric satellite projects using UAVs and balloons.

 

[Anmdt]

TAI has stated that they've converted the Simsek target drones into kamikaze drones to be launched from aircraft.
I expect the same with Göksungur. With a slight modification these babies could be lethal kamikaze drones.

It was just a study for future applications, not a final product.
So we can expect they were experimenting how to introduce a kamikaze and jet loitering drone from UAVs, getting warmed up for supersonic and high subsonic ones with a nice payload and guidance.

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1405566402703118337

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1405579005382868997

A direct hit from ALPAGU with a light effect

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1405579005382868997

A direct hit from ALPAGU with a light effect

The explosion might seem small, but from the looks of it the shrapnel spreads a good 15 meters wide. Perfect!