Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[contricusc]

Orban is now the only force of democracy in Europe trying to stop this madness from spreading.

No, Orban is just one of Putin’s pawns who puts Russia’s interest before his own country’s and before Europe’s. Shame on him, considering he used to be an anti communist when he was young.

500.000 dead, many more wounded. For Black Rock ?

No, not for Blackrock, but because of Putin’s imperial ambitions.

Your statements involving Blackrock are borderline delusional, and citing some conspiracy theorists doesn’t make them more realistic.

While Mislav Kolakusiv is right about the wasted money on useless green projects and covid vaccines, he gets off the rails when it comes to Ukraine. Helping Ukraine is the best investment Europe can make.

The best spent European money are the ones that buy weapons for Ukraine.

 

[Gary]

No, Orban is just one of Putin’s pawns who puts Russia’s interest before his own country’s and before Europe’s. Shame on him, considering he used to be an anti communist when he was young.



No, not for Blackrock, but because of Putin’s imperial ambitions.

Your statements involving Blackrock are borderline delusional, and citing some conspiracy theorists doesn’t make them more realistic.

Look, there have been multiple conspiracy theories floating around the internet for two years now regarding the war in Ukraine. From Zelensky being a drug addict, NATO bio labs, and many more stuff I can't even remember. none of that I took seriously.

But BlackRock...now it is cited by serious people ( a member of the EU MP), in a serious event (MP meetings), and in a serious institution like the EU.

If I'm Ukrainian fighting in the front line, getting bombarded every minute, living a miserable life in the trench so that BlackRock could basically take over my country once I'm dead or incapacitated, I'd revolt RIGHT NOW.

While Mislav Kolakusiv is right about the wasted money on useless green projects and covid vaccines, he gets off the rails when it comes to Ukraine. Helping Ukraine is the best investment Europe can make.

Ahh yess, the classic " if I'm happy with his statements it must be right, but if it doesn't suit my whim, guy is 'off the rails' "

The best spent European money are the ones that buy weapons for Ukraine.

So that they continue to die and once every one of them dead, BlackRock could own the country.

Sick, very sick

 

[mehmed beg]

As I have written before, 28% of Ukrainian agricultural land is in the hand of American companies.
Usa is making a great deal of money exporting energy to Europe.
Us , Israeli and Korean companies basically are in charge of a lot of the European arms purchases.
On other hand I know where I come from so this Croatian politician is conspiracy theorist as are the great deal of people who surround my country.
Orban ain't Communist nor is Putin but what Orban and his ilk would like to happen is that with Putin and Trump, they get rid of every single Muslim in Europe.
I know that, I know how this Orban scum is dealing with my country.
You see after ww1 , Hungary was destroyed and more than half of its territory was given to the various countries. With that Orban is fine, for him Serbs and Ctoats are fine, though they hold half of Hungary. Bosnian people ain't fine though, we don't pose any danger for his country.

 

[contricusc]

But BlackRock...now it is cited by serious people ( a member of the EU MP), in a serious event (MP meetings), and in a serious institution like the EU.

There are a lot of members of the EU parliament who are not serious people. Those citing such ridiculous conspiracy theories regarding Blackrock are surely not serious.

If I'm Ukrainian fighting in the front line, getting bombarded every minute, living a miserable life in the trench so that BlackRock could basically take over my country once I'm dead or incapacitated, I'd revolt RIGHT NOW.

Blackrock cannot take over a country. Blackrock is an asset management company, best known for being the issuer of the most successful ETFs. Blackrock is not in the business of taking over countries or controlling companies. Blackrock just manages some huge funds and earns fees for that. People who are not familiar with the investment world may fall for such ridiculous conspiracy theories, but they are just low quality propaganda designed to fool the ill informed.

So that they continue to die and once every one of them dead, BlackRock could own the country.

Sick, very sick

Whenever you say “Blackrock could own the country” you lose more credibility. This is a very cheap propaganda piece that is aimed at the low information and uneducated segments of the population, and repeating it here puts you in a very bad light.

 

[mehmed beg]

Thi

There are a lot of members of the EU parliament who are not serious people. Those citing such ridiculous conspiracy theories regarding Blackrock are surely not serious.



Blackrock cannot take over a country. Blackrock is an asset management company, best known for being the issuer of the most successful ETFs. Blackrock is not in the business of taking over countries or controlling companies. Blackrock just manages some huge funds and earns fees for that. People who are not familiar with the investment world may fall for such ridiculous conspiracy theories, but they are just low quality propaganda designed to fool the ill informed.



Whenever you say “Blackrock could own the country” you lose more credibility. This is a very cheap propaganda piece that is aimed at the low information and uneducated segments of the population, and repeating it here puts you in a very bad light.

This what you just have written doesn't consist of any kind of answer. To say, it is just the conspiracy theory should be followed, why it is conspiracy theory.?
Almost all what you are saying are the linguistic arguments, nothing more then that. Nothing here consist of any kind of analytical option. Mostly vague assumptions.
I am not privy what Black Rock does, but it is very basic logic to believe that company like Black Rock can't be referred in " just" kind of semantics. It is completely irrational to say such things.
Actually it is hard even to come to any conclusion with you.
It is completely irrational to say that financial institutions have no any interest in the running of the countries and policies, does East India Company ring the bells????
It is like saying that the economic policy of given state is not really business of a financial company? They are there " just" to give " friendly" advice???? Your claim is really astonishing, i would like to remind you that the capitalism does exist.
As of your assumption that some EU politicians aren't serious, well let's say if Margaret Thatcher comes back from dead, she would surely assume that the people who you consider " normal" aren't serious at all. I am old enough to know that.
The majority of EU country invested next to nothing into their armed forces till 2 years ago, what? " Serious " people just 2 years ago realised that Russia is their enemy?

 

[Anastasius]

Blackrock has become a favorite online target of the past 3 years due to it being a semi-open secret that they provide funding to entertainment companies that push progressive politics in their media. This is a reasonably logical claim and evidence can be found online with some effort. Blackrock is an investment company and they invest in specific businesses in order to "encourage" pushing of progressive ideas.

It's a bit less logical to claim "Ukrainians are fighting against Russians invading their country so Blackrock can take it over". Uh, how exactly? What will Blackrock own? Politicians? Infrastructure? Government agencies? Why Blackrock specifically? This smells a bit more like someone hearing stuff about how Blackrock is doing bad shit and deciding to name-drop them in connection with the war in Ukraine to imply that Ukrainians defending their home are somehow deluded.

Also MPs are merely elected representatives of particular constituencies. They don't necessarily know a whole lot more than your average schmuck when it comes to complex international conspiracies.

 

[UkroTurk]

Will Ukraine go on the defensive: Ermak gave a clear answer



13:15, 01/20/24

Andrey Ermak said whether Ukraine can go on the defensive /

Ukrainian forces sometimes switch from offensive to defensive for several months, but “we are not going to stop,” the head of the Presidential Office emphasized.



Ukraine’s counteroffensive was quite successful:

12:31, 01/20/24


Our country does not use soldiers as “cannon fodder,” the head of the Presidential Office emphasized.


The counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2023 was quite successful given the opportunities provided - weapons received from Western allies.

The Ukrainians “destroyed the potential of the Russian fleet in the Black Sea, and this was also part of the counteroffensive,” said the head of President Vladimir Zelensky’s Office, Andriy Yermak, during an interview with El Mundo. “...taking into account the opportunities provided, the counter-offensive was quite successful. Let’s not forget that Ukraine is not Russia, and for us the life of our people is of great value,” the interlocutor said.

Ermak stressed that the Ukrainian side does not use soldiers as “cannon fodder.” “You visited the front and saw thousands of Russian soldiers lying on the ground. For them, human life is worthless. About 20 thousand Wagnerites died in Bakhmut alone,” he said.

 

[contricusc]

I am not privy what Black Rock does, but it is very basic logic to believe that company like Black Rock can't be referred in " just" kind of semantics. It is completely irrational to say such things.

That’s the thing. People who know what Blackrock does understand that those conspiracy theories are totally unfunded.

Actually it is hard even to come to any conclusion with you.
It is completely irrational to say that financial institutions have no any interest in the running of the countries and policies, does East India Company ring the bells????

Blackrock is the largest asset manager in the world, with upwards of 9 trillion dollars in AUM. The vast majority of its holdings are stocks in public companies and bonds. They earn fees for holding those assets on behalf of their clients. The faith of Ukraine has no effect on Blackrock’s revenues or earnings. There is nothing to win or lose for Blackrock no matter how the war in Ukraine ends.

To say Ukrainians are fighting for Blackrock is just as ridiculous as saying they are fighting for McDonalds or Coca Cola.

The majority of EU country invested next to nothing into their armed forces till 2 years ago, what? " Serious " people just 2 years ago realised that Russia is their enemy?

The European political class if full of stupid and ill advised people. The EU has made lots of mistakes in the past, and continues to do so in the present. Helping Ukraine is one of the few positive things they did lately, and even here they are slow and clumsy.

 

[UkroTurk]

The White House said that if Congress does not provide additional aid to Ukraine, Russia could win the war in a matter of weeks - months at best.


The White House claims that Ukraine will exhaust some of the possibilities of air defense and artillery in the coming weeks.

'Incredibly stark': Biden aides give lawmakers a grim assessment of Ukraine without more aid

The president’s national security aides said in a private meeting this week that Russia could win the war within weeks if Congress doesn’t act.

www.nbcnews.com

In October, Biden requested an additional $60 billion in military aid for Ukraine, some of which would be used to replenish U.S. stockpiles.

 

[mehmed beg]

Circular argument really.
Edit , 1916 German army was able to fire 800k shells in a day . I don't know how 30k shells is not possible for Ukraine?
There is no fundamental difference between 155mm 1916 or now.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748581653570806170

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748510535258140896

 

[Ecderha]

Over 24+ hours later, ruzzian oil depot still burning

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748591681333780904

 

[UkroTurk]

The work of the Ukrainian Intelligence in Tula: the attack on the plant where the Pantsir air defense system is assembled

01/21/24


Shcheglovsky Val, where Russian air defense systems are being assembled, was attacked, journalists found out

A Russian military plant was hit, journalists learned

In the Russian city , Tula, on the night of Sunday, January 21, the Shcheglovsky Val plant, where the Pantsir-S air defense system (anti-aircraft missile systems) are assembled, was attacked.

There was a hit at a military plant, the consequences of the attack are being clarified, writes RBK-Ukraine, citing information from a source in the intelligence services.
According to the agency's interlocutor, the attack on the plant was "a planned work of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine."

 

[UkroTurk]

UK Channel 4 Interview with President Zelensky

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748581653570806170

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748510535258140896

Its interesting, if we pay attention to the last 2 years everyone whose important in Russia has come out saying the war is massive failure. A failure so bad that it even caused the head of wagner to march on Russia with his mercenaries. It got so bad the negative feedback on the war that they had to constantly bring in laws criminalising any criticism of it.

However;

If we pay attention to the western media since day 0 its been telling us that Ukraine is finished. Remember it was actually saying to surrender right off the bat and Ukraine stood no chance.

so long story short, within the russian elites they know its grand failure, a massive disaster. In the western media Ukraine is the loser. I wonder how many western journalists are on the russian payroll.

super power cant even cross her border to fight a nation that barely had a functioning government 10 years ago, let alone a professional army. Massive fail for Putin.

 

[B_A]

Its interesting, if we pay attention to the last 2 years everyone whose important in Russia has come out saying the war is massive failure. A failure so bad that it even caused the head of wagner to march on Russia with his mercenaries. It got so bad the negative feedback on the war that they had to constantly bring in laws criminalising any criticism of it.

However;

If we pay attention to the western media since day 0 its been telling us that Ukraine is finished. Remember it was actually saying to surrender right off the bat and Ukraine stood no chance.

so long story short, within the russian elites they know its grand failure, a massive disaster. In the western media Ukraine is the loser. I wonder how many western journalists are on the russian payroll.

super power cant even cross her border to fight a nation that barely had a functioning government 10 years ago, let alone a professional army. Massive fail for Putin.

Russian always looks like in disaster at the first battles but didnt always loss the war.

Before the fall of plevne the west even thought we were winning in 93 Harbi.

Napoleon war and finland winter war and ww2 same.

Of coz,Russian lost the russo-japanese war and russo-polish war.

 

[mehmed beg]

Russian always looks like in disaster at the first battles but didnt always loss the war.

Before the fall of plevne the west even thought we were winning in 93 Harbi.

Napoleon war and finland winter war and ww2 same.

Of coz,Russian lost the russo-japanese war and russo-polish war.

Ww1. Afghanistan, Crimean wars also.
Frankly if not for USA help, they would completely run out of food by 24th September 1941. So in December, the contractor line would had been Arhanglesk Kazan, not Leningrad,Moscow Kherson

 

[GoatsMilk]

Ww1. Afghanistan, Crimean wars also.
Frankly if not for USA help, they would completely run out of food by 24th September 1941. So in December, the contractor line would had been Arhanglesk Kazan, not Leningrad,Moscow Kherson

Yeah, Russians had mad help from the west throughout history.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Russian always looks like in disaster at the first battles but didnt always loss the war.

Before the fall of plevne the west even thought we were winning in 93 Harbi.

Napoleon war and finland winter war and ww2 same.

Of coz,Russian lost the russo-japanese war and russo-polish war.

you miss the point while the western media has been running with doom and gloom before the war even started, with some entities claiming they should just surrender and let them walk in. In Russia itself the elites are fully aware what a disaster this invasion has turned into.

And lets put this invasion into perspective, before it started Russia was parading herself as a global super power equal to the USA. Two years into Putins 3 day war and they struggling insanely against a 3rd tier military right on their doorstep. And i say 3rd tier not to discredit the Ukrainian soldier but in purely military materials. Imagine a country like Greece is much better armed then Ukraine is.

 

[B_A]

you miss the point while the western media has been running with doom and gloom before the war even started, with some entities claiming they should just surrender and let them walk in. In Russia itself the elites are fully aware what a disaster this invasion has turned into.

And lets put this invasion into perspective, before it started Russia was parading herself as a global super power equal to the USA. Two years into Putins 3 day war and they struggling insanely against a 3rd tier military right on their doorstep. And i say 3rd tier not to discredit the Ukrainian soldier but in purely military materials. Imagine a country like Greece is much better armed then Ukraine is.

I didn't.

I want to say is that

Western media and government, military officers were always in panic and overrate Russian/Chinese/North Korean power.

Chinese elites thinking they can't win the new Pacific war but Western always said even NATO and Japanese Korean can't protect Taiwan from Chinese.