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In my opinion, the attack on the occupied Crimea will only aim to distract nature in order to stretch the defense. And the naval landings, which are now being actively talked about in sub-zero temperatures, will only lead to personnel losses. , an attack on the gathering of Russian units attacking from the east in the final phase - is possible.

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Winter significantly reduces the capabilities of marines

Most likely, the enemy will use those tools and forces that are still beyond the control of intelligence. There is also a notable accumulation of manpower, there is a transfer of personnel from the Far East of the Russian Federation, from the northern regions. It is necessary to monitor units that have recently been trained, deployed and trained in combat.

It should be understood that equipment for these units has been accumulating near our borders for a year now. During this period, the Russian Federation has repeatedly supplied and withdrawn units, but how much equipment remains near Ukraine is a separate issue. In other words, the equipment could have been preserved and is just waiting for the personnel to arrive,” said Vadym Pavlych.

Horde tactics

For Russia, the experience of offensive action has not changed since the 13th century, since the Tatar-Mongol invasion - to take numbers. But it is important to understand - a man on defense just gets tired of "swinging a sword", and when the enemy has a significant numerical advantage of one unit and immediately replaces it with another, bypass the resistance node, that is, do not think that the enemy will resist and defend itself to the end.

They are usually protected from invasion by modern tanks by other methods. The most effective way is to prevent refueling - to eliminate the maneuver component. In order for the tank unit to go on the offensive, it provides a lot of additional equipment with "refills".

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Mass refueling of Russian tanks from the ground

In my opinion, the enemy will make jumps of up to 120 km at most, where they will capture bases and deploy support bases on them. Most likely, they will be large railway stations, because the Russian army has worked out the interaction of the railway troops, who are supposed to provide logistics. From these units, automotive equipment will already be transporting fuel and ammunition for a distance of 30 to 40 km, where advanced supply bases will be located.

Attention should also be paid to the management of Russian army tank units, which use automated control systems. Especially for the mass use of "Orlan-10" UAVs. And this is actually another "tracking role" from our experience, because until 2016, Russia had large drones like the "Outpost". But UAV control points and all command and staff vehicles can be easily captured by radio reconnaissance and their exact coordinates.

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UAV "Orlan-10" and control point on the chassis "KamAZ"

That is, it will be necessary to hit long-range missile weapons on logistics and command units - "Alder", "Tornado", "Point-U".

It is also necessary to use the full potential of who we are in our own land. These are the actions of special operations forces who have to "hunt down" the rear columns. Use remote mining to force the enemy to go in the direction we need - into the narrow gorge. Use ambushes, a network of erroneous and defensive positions, that is, our commanders must have a series of tactics.

It is a mistake to think that it is enough to create platoon bases. No tanker will dare to go to the GP on the forehead. This requires a great concentration of forces and will still lead to significant losses. Because every GOP has minefields, anti-tank missiles, and an anti-tank reserve. That is, the Russian army will try to go where it is sure there is no resistance. And our commanders must understand exactly where the enemy will try to ignore them.

If that happens, a lot will depend on the counter-fight, which is the most unacceptable for both sides, as the losses are distributed 1:1. But there's time to cement the defense," said Vadym Pavlych.

Not just tanks

But in addition to tanks, which are the main means of advancement in the Russian army, special attention should be paid to the BMP-3. The Kremlin made a separate bet on this car, not only launching its mass production, but also modernizing it, installing a unified "Bakhcha" turret.

This made it possible to significantly expand the combat capabilities of the BMP-3, which is armed with 100 mm and 30 mm cannons thanks to a thermal imager, a panoramic view of the commander and a new fire control system.

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BMP-3 of the Russian army

To be blunt, the BMP-3 is already a floating light tank. If the tanks, in accordance with the old Soviet tradition, get away from the infantry or get stuck, the BMP-3 is capable of carrying out a wide range of tasks in addition, the BMP-3 is the only Soviet car that had a level of quite high comfort, which allowed the driver's mechanics to make long marches.



BMD-4 of the Russian army

This is the most threatening time the enemy is constantly working on training. That is, the Kremlin hopes to destroy our air defenses and then capture important units in the rear with the help of airborne units.

If Russia has returned to the experience of the USSR, albeit modernized through new technologies, controls, intelligence and fire contact, it is necessary to look closely at the NATO experience during the Cold War. More precisely, Alliance funds in Western Europe, which were supposed to neutralize the Soviet army during its "jump into the English Channel". And the West has just had a pervasive saturation of anti-tank weapons.

That is, we have to create a powerful system of protection against the armored threat of the Russian army through foreign aid, our own anti-aircraft missiles, kamikaze drones and UAV strikes. We need to move away from the illusion that we have already done all we can in this area. Seek new approaches in the organizational and personnel structure of our teams and units. And the main thing is not to waste time and focus on what we believe we have already conquered and learned”, underlined Vadym Pavlych.

It should be noted that a number of weapons were developed to combat the invasion of Soviet tanks. From TOW anti-aircraft missiles and later Javeline, to Hellfire guided missiles, AH-64 Apache attack helicopter, A-10 attack aircraft, individually guided sub-elements for tactical missiles and much more. Even tanks in Allied countries were once seen primarily as anti-tank weapons. And the same Abrams received a high-explosive projectile only in the 2000s.
 

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How many armored vehicles and artillery in the battalion groups of the Russian Federation near the borders of Ukraine

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Russian army self-propelled artillery

The grouping of Russian ground forces near Ukraine's borders has changed little since November 2021, when it included 40 battalion tactical groups (BTGs). This group is still very menacing. How many tanks, infantry and artillery fighting vehicles can be in it - in Defense Express stuff

The grouping of Russian ground forces near Ukraine's borders has changed little since November 2021, despite the “mission” to Kazakhstan on January 7, 2022, a small contingent of Russian Armed Forces (less than 2,000 paratroopers and special forces). Especially since they are promised to return on January 20, 2022.

It is possible to estimate approximately how many in 40 BTG are tanks, BMP, artillery units and personnel, based on the known composition of each BTG. A certain difficulty lies in the presence of two types of BTG of different composition (motorized rifle and tank).

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Training of motorized infantry units of the Russian army in the Rostov region

The motorized infantry BTG usually has a motorized infantry brigade (40 infantry fighting vehicles, 6 mortars), a tank company (10 tanks), an artillery company (18 howitzers or SGs) and up to 1,000 people.

The BTG tank usually has a tank battalion (31 tanks), a motorized infantry company (12 BMP), an artillery division (18 SG) and up to 600 people. Such a large number of BTG personnel is explained by the presence of anti-tank and anti-aircraft units, combat units and logistics, including intelligence, communications, supplies, etc.



Maneuvers of the Tor-M2 SAM of the Air Defense Forces of the 1st Free Air Defense Tank Army

That is, it is necessary to determine approximately how many 40 tank BTGs and how many motorized rifle BTGs. After all, if the group (theoretically) has 40 tank BTGs, they will have over 1,200 tanks (as with all units in the group), and if there are 40 motor rifle BTGs, then only 400 tanks.

The number in the group of tanks and motorized infantry BTG can be roughly determined based on their sum into groups in operational areas (OP) and geographic conditions, BTG tasks and the composition of the compounds from which they are created.



Maneuvers of motorized infantry units of the Western Military District (ZVO)

It should be borne in mind that the Russian group must carry out an offensive, and to compensate for the losses it will keep in reserve 30-40% of the tanks, even more BMP (40-50%) and artillery (35-45%, including regiments artillery and artillery brigades). It should also be borne in mind that generally the all-military regiment and brigade form a maximum of 2 BTG, with contract staff as well as the best and most useful weapons.

Below is a rough expert assessment of the number of tanks (T) and motorized infantry (MS) BTG in the Russian Federation cluster, divided by OH groups (optional).



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The CIA Map shows the deployment of Russian troops and BTGs near Ukraine, including 40 strike BTGs divided by UN groups:

North, Orel-Voronezh ON: 12 BTG (6 MS + 6 T), including 2 for reinforcement:

In Belarus - 2 BTG from the 2nd MSD (1 MS + 1 T) and in reserve 3 BTG from the Airborne Forces (76th DSD, 98th and 106th VDD).

In Klintsy - 2 BTG from the 144th MSD (2 MS). Together with 2 BTG from the 3rd MSD, they make 4 BTG facing Kiev. In Yelnya - another 5 BTG in reserve.

In the Voronezh region. - 6 + 2 = 8 BTG from the 4th TD (4 T + 2 MS) and from the 3rd MSD (1 MS + 1 T). They aim to surround Kharkiv.

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Russian Army Free Economic Zone artillery training

East, Donetsk OH : 15 BTG (9 MS + 6 T):

In the DPR / LPR and Rostov region. - 15 BTG from 1st/2nd AK (6 MS), 8th ZA (150th and 20th MSD (3 MS + 6 T) ). They target Melitopol and make their way to Crimea.

In Temryuk: 1 BTG from the 810th ObrMP (1 MS)

South, Crimean OH: 12 BTG (8 MS + 4 T), incl. 6 for reinforcement:

In Crimea: 4 + 6 + 2 = 12 BTG from the 22nd AK (4 MS), the 58th ZA (2 MS + 4 T) and the 49th ZA (2 MS). They are intended for Tavriysk and Melitopol.

That is, a group of 40 BTG can have 16 T BTG and 24 MS BTG (736 tanks, 1152 BMP, 864 artillery units and 33,600 people). Including:

Orel-Voronezh ON (6 MS BTG and 6 T BTG) can have 246 tanks, 312 BMP, 252 artillery units and 9,600 people.

Donetsk ON (9 MS BTG and 6 T BTG) can have 276 tanks, 432 BMP, 324 artillery units and 12,600 people.

Crimean ON (8 MS BTG and 4 T BTG) can have 204 tanks, 368 BMP, 264 artillery units and 10,400 people.

A group of 53 BTG can have 19 T BTG and 34 MS BTG (929 tanks, 1588 BMP, 1158 artillery units and 45,400 people).

The number of personnel and the number of weapons in the Russian ground force groups near the borders of Ukraine and in their BTG are given in the table that will be available on the link.

CONCLUSIONS. In the event of a Russian attack on Ukraine, according to the above scenario, a group of 94,000 Russian soldiers, 1,200 tanks, 2,900 infantry fighting vehicles and 1,600 units of Russian artillery troops with 40 BTG (16 tanks and 24 motors) may have 736 tanks, 1152 BMP, 864 artillery units and 33,600 people.

In case of increasing the grouping to 105 thousand people, 1300 tanks, 3400 BMP and 1800 artillery units, and the number of BTG up to 53 (19 tank and 34 motorized rifle) these BTG can have 929 tanks, 1588 BMP, 1158 units of artillery and 45,400 people.

That is, in the first case (when 40 BTG) the troops of Ukraine will have to repel the attack of 736 tanks, 1152 BMP and fight with 864 artillery units, while in the second case (when 53 BTG) - to repel the attack of 929 tanks, 1588 BMP and fighting with 1158 artillery units.

Of course, the declared amounts of Russian weapons are approximate and partially based on expert estimates, but they do show the threat level. In August 2021, Shoigu announced the formation of 168 BTG in the RF Armed Forces, but 3-4 times less were concentrated near Ukraine.

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Training of motorized infantry units of the Western Military District of the Russian Army

After all, the leadership of the Russian Armed Forces relies not only on the number of its BTG, but also on the quantitative and qualitative advantage of its VKS and OTRK, the advantage of modernized tanks, BMP, artillery, reconnaissance, "genius of commanders", propaganda and intimidation. Ukraine's Armed Forces don't just need anti-tank weapons. This must be taken into account.
 

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Russia Thins Out Its Embassy in Ukraine, a Possible Clue to Putin’s Next Move​

The slow evacuation may be part propaganda, part preparation for a conflict or part feint, Ukrainian and U.S. officials say.



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The Russian Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, in April.

The Russian Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, in April.Credit...Andrei Ratmirov/TASS via Getty Images
Michael Schwirtz David E. Sanger
By Michael Schwirtz and David E. Sanger
Jan. 17, 2022
KYIV, Ukraine — The week before intensive diplomatic meetings began over the buildup of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border, American and Ukrainian officials watched from afar as Russia began emptying out its embassy in Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital.
On Jan. 5, 18 people — mostly the children and wives of Russian diplomats — boarded buses and embarked on a 15-hour drive home to Moscow, according to a senior Ukrainian security official.
About 30 more followed in the next few days, from Kyiv and a consulate in Lviv, in western Ukraine. Diplomats at two other Russian consulates have been told to prepare to leave Ukraine, the security official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss national security matters.
How to interpret the evacuation has become part of the mystery of divining the next play by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Thinning out the Russian Embassy may be part propaganda, part preparation for a looming conflict or part feint, Ukrainian and U.S. officials say. It could be all three.

In recent days, the slow departures — which the Russians most likely knew that the Americans and the Ukrainians would see — have become part of the puzzle of what happens next. They are a more ominous data point, in addition to cyberattacks on Ukrainian ministries last week, and reports from Microsoft and the U.S. government that far more destructive malware has been planted in Ukrainian networks but not activated.
Enormous train convoys loaded with tanks, missiles and troops continue to push west through Russia, apparently heading for the Ukrainian border. Aleksandr G. Lukashenko, the authoritarian leader of Belarus, announced on Monday that Russian forces and equipment had begun arriving in his country for a joint military exercise that would be held in two places: on Belarus’s western edge, near Poland and Lithuania, two NATO countries; and along the Ukrainian border, which could prove another pathway for invasion.
The exercise has been given a very American-sounding name: Allied Resolve. But in Kyiv, Ukrainian officials fully expect any Russian troops deployed to Belarus for the exercises to remain in place indefinitely, leaving Ukraine open to attack from the north, the east and the south.
“We’ll be fully surrounded by equal forces,” the senior Ukrainian security official said.
In Washington, U.S. officials say they still assess that Mr. Putin has not yet made a decision to invade. They describe him as more a tactician than a grand strategist, and they believe that he is constantly weighing a host of different factors. Among them is how well he could weather the threatened sanctions on his banks and industry, and whether his demands that Ukraine stop veering toward NATO — and that NATO stop spreading toward Russia — are receiving enough attention.
But the U.S. officials say Mr. Putin may also have concluded that with the United States and other countries arming Ukraine, his military advantage is at risk of slipping away. Britain’s defense secretary, Ben Wallace, announced in an address to Parliament on Monday that the country would begin providing Ukraine with light, anti-armor defensive weapons. Mr. Putin may become tempted to act sooner rather than later.

U.S. officials saw Russia’s embassy evacuations coming. “We have information that indicates the Russian government was preparing to evacuate their family members from the Russian Embassy in Ukraine in late December and early January,” a U.S. official said in a statement.



 

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I don't know if this too late but I think it would be better for Ukraine if they moved their capital to the west, Kyiv will fall easily if the Russians advance from Belarus.
 

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I don't know if this too late but I think it would be better for Ukraine if they moved their capital to the west, Kyiv will fall easily if the Russians advance from Belarus.
unfortunately ukraina is ditched by their eu allies, this plane from uk which carried weapons to them was not allowed to fly over germany.

on the other hand i wish that ukraina will be able to repel upcoming russian agrresison which will be almost challenge impossible strictly military speaking. i know how it feels to be victim of world geopolitical games.
 

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unfortunately ukraina is ditched by their eu allies, this plane from uk which carried weapons to them was not allowed to fly over germany.

on the other hand i wish that ukraina will be able to repel upcoming russian agrresison which will be almost challenge impossible strictly military speaking. i know how it feels to be victim of world geopolitical games.
Germany = France look what France did in Libya in 2019 they were fighting side by side with the Russians.
 

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Germany = France look what France did in Libya in 2019 they were fighting side by side with the Russians.
Yep, that is pretty obvious even if we put pure hypocrisy of that sad state of affairs in countries selfinterests it was sustained and under certain control while USA were heavily present in EU and unchallenged by China, today it is rather dangerous and could lead to catastrophic events, at least for Ukraina at the moment.
 

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Moral of the story guys.

Never trust the USA, EU and Russia.

Look what happened, Ukraine gave up its nukes, strategic bombers and other weapons just to ensure its neutrality by the USA and Russia.

Guess what its neutrality got violated while it lost Crimea and Donbass to Russia while the USA and EU gave fck all about it

This is the price to pay for giving up nukes. Now Ukraine is even more under threat it is outgunned, outnumbered and being left alone to fend itself while decades ago it gave up its weapons because they believed the words of the Americans and the Russians.

Turkey should learn a good lesson here if not we will end up the same too.
 

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conspiracy theory chemical weapons on german soil? I might as well post armenian or kurdish news sources about Turkey here next if you get the joke.

talking about this image.

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Not really a conspiracy theory. And that image is flat-out incorrect. Rotax isn't used, for example.
does Europe have enough tanks, air defenses and ground troops? there is only so much the U.S. can do in Europe? Speaking of modern is any european country even making exoskeleton suits like ratnik-3? atleast give examples.
Yes. The US has been testing exoskeletons since 2011, France and Britain have both been working on exoskeletons since mid-2010s and even Belgium has done work in the field with projects like WALL-X.

The Ratnik-3 was last heard of in 2019 and nothing since except for Russia claiming that they supposedly used them for combat operations in Syria...against whom, exactly?
 

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