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350 MBT , 344 IFV, 244+ AFV, 81 APC, 31 MRAP, 71 IMV, 67 SPH, 33 MLRS, 663 trucks lost by Russia.

All in over a month, this is worse than Armenia in Karabakh.
 

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Its like Turkiye and Azerbaijan going to war.

If Erdogan ordered an invasion per say or Aliyev said attack turkish troops.

I think the war would end up with mutinys and coups.

No way a Turkish soldier would pull a gun at his own bretheren.

Same story with Russians vs Ukrainians.

You are thinking like a Turk, the Russians don't even respect their own soldiers. Just like the armenians didn't respect their own men chaining them to posts to die. Or even the greeks who cheered their men going to fight for armenia but then pretend like they didnt exist once armenia lost the war. The Turkish sense of honour and general decency is not replicated in Russia at all.

2 years on from the Russians killing Turkish troops and were still pissed about it. Russians who die and continue to die in Ukraine will be forgotten a day after the war ends in Russia.
 

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You are thinking like a Turk, the Russians don't even respect their own soldiers. Just like the armenians didn't respect their own men chaining them to posts to die. Or even the greeks who cheered their men going to fight for armenia but then pretend like they didnt exist once armenia lost the war. The Turkish sense of honour and general decency is not replicated in Russia at all.

2 years on from the Russians killing Turkish troops and were still pissed about it. Russians who die and continue to die in Ukraine will be forgotten a day after the war ends in Russia.
100 years later people will speak about the turkish troops lost, in anger..
like we remember good and bad done to us.. like we remember japanese navy rescueing our people!
 

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100 years later people will speak about the turkish troops lost in anger..
like we remember good and bad done to us.. like we remember japanese navy rescueing our people!

Yep another good example of remembering the good, is Pakistans support during our independence war. The point holds we remember it and it compels us to behave a certain way. If Pakistan ends up in a serious war tomorrow, you will find Turkey feeling the need to support her. It may not be in our geopolitical interests, it may be massively costly to Turks and Turkey, but because of that good deed we feel ourselves indebted. This is not how Russians think nor behave and Turks make that mistake in projecting their own character onto others.

Russians are generally opportunistic and emotionless. Turks are highly emotional and probably the opposite of opportunistic. We are not actively looking to exploit peoples moments of weakness.
 

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The Russian marauder is being massacred badly there, they are regional bully and need some medicine
 

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Ukrainian grandpas taking up the fight against Russian terrorists.

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100 years later people will speak about the turkish troops lost, in anger..
like we remember good and bad done to us.. like we remember japanese navy rescueing our people!

Its also worth pointing out that when those Turkish troops were murdered by Russians, AK party tried to keep it secret from the Turkish nation. But the news spread across social media and tens of thousands of Turkish citizens were rushing to the border wanting to go fight Russia. The outrage was so big in Turkey that erdogan had no where to hide and had to start the idlib operation.

Its also why i say to Azeri people do not put too much trust in AK party or Erdogan, its domestic Turkish sentiment that forces Turkey to defend the interests of Azerbaijan.

When erdogan wanted to unilaterally open the border with armenia the Turkish people were outraged and they saw it as a betrayal of Azerbaijan, erdogan yet again had to lower his head and relent.
 

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