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Russia wont forget these actions by the west, irrelevant of those will replace putin, thats just the way it is, either russia gets what they want or the west will be in a constant fight to defend itself for the next decades til one side has finally lost, I also dont think that such procurements are empty announcements, they do have the revenue streams via oil and gas, thats a lot of money- a lot, especially for a country like Russia which has a much lower living cost and lower wages then the US for example they can certainly increase the size of modern arms considerably.

Its gonna be interesting.
It is 100% clear Russia cannot win a conventional war against NATO. But they might win against Ukraine if the West gives up supporting them due to economic reasons, gas shortage etc. I think Russia is in such a bad shape this is a millennial opportunity to slaughter their military. The west won’t be able to make use of their opportunity. I wish Türkiye was economically strong and had already resolved its issues with Greece and West. We could have then struck Russia with the final blow from Caucasus.
 

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Russia wont forget these actions by the west, irrelevant of those will replace putin, thats just the way it is, either russia gets what they want or the west will be in a constant fight to defend itself for the next decades til one side has finally lost, I also dont think that such procurements are empty announcements, they do have the revenue streams via oil and gas, thats a lot of money- a lot, especially for a country like Russia which has a much lower living cost and lower wages then the US for example they can certainly increase the size of modern arms considerably.

Its gonna be interesting.

Uhmm the announcement come in a moment Russia is fighting in a war its not looking so good for them.
The cost of a war is huge, much more under the sactions and a general mobilization while selling your resources as cheap as you can.

International investors (at least from west, used to be the main ones in their economy) won't put an euro or dollar in Russia until this ends and we can find a new status quo.

So with oil and gas not flowing to Europe and pipelines to the rest of Asia stopped as it requires more investments and west machinery, I would like to find out how Russia can make such investment after the war, when your educated and prepared people already fled, or are trying to find out an exit, others are being killed in the war, and you won't touch a single piece of west technology for years, with their GDP falling this year up to a 15% and inflation jumping to the same amount.

Russia would need to find customers for roughly 2.3 million barrels of crude and oil products a day, which is about 20 percent of its average output in 2022, according to the International Energy Agency.

We are whitenesing also what they did in decades of economic growing with their military machine.
What are you going to do, a T-72 rebranding? While paying a huge amount of money in social compensations, probably war compensations and your people trying to forget the war and its consecuences?
Are you going to recover the 80% of your army manpower in that period with that money when the ones with a bit of will are already buried? Can you make such national effort when social disenchantment is great enough and opposition is striking as never before?

For me that is just money related to pay consecuences of this war and an announcement for indoor propaganda, I could be wrong but I'm almost sure it won't mean new military toys, when their new ones in peace times are being released from the factory in dribs and drabs.

I don't really know a politician in Putin's situation capable of, but let's see for sure!
 

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A comment on the warhead:

"the formation of a copper cone-shaped charge will be negatively affected by its placement in the nose cone of the UAV. Both the battery box and several lead counterweights are in the area where the jet is formed, this will negatively affect the ability of the jets to penetrate. In the center of the lead weights there is a hole through which the shaped charge can pass. This shows a lack of understanding of the Munro effect and how shaped charges are formed"

Great job Iran
And Napoleon said
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

Good job Warhead :LOL:
 

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Russia wont forget these actions by the west [...]

What west did is what Putin really known before starting such military action. We are tired of hearing "we are going to take Kiev in 72 hours" and that was their plan, just aimed to surrender the whole country and not giving enough room to west for organizing and accept his main conditions, yes that could be a masterplan, but they failed.

Ukraine has its security assurances signed by Mr Lavrov in the UN security council and accesible for everyone.
And be aware that they contain also nuclear assurances.

So what west did was the expected and fair, as we can see in the UN voting against Russian war on Ukraine. Once propaganda falls, everything will be much clearer.
 
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this is the reality of our region. Then they call Turkey an invader.

Sarah Abdallah should know what her stupid ass dictator done.

For Syria to be in that situation where the Turks, Iranians, Russians and Americans treating it their own playground.

Assad supporters said Assad or we burn the country now they have both.

Let me guess Muh America is bad.
 

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I think the key country in this war will be Iran.

Westerners may beg Iran not to sell drones to the Russians.

Maybe they will not impose sanctions on Turkey because of its economic relations with Russia. There are more powerful UAVs in Turkey. what if russia sells it.
Hi bisbis
the last paragraph of your post is extremely incoherent. Will the West impose sanctions on Turkey? Will Russia sell UAVs and to whom?
could you maybe elaborate on that part please?
 

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And china is now building more eq then the us with that cash, if we assume that the russians got rid of the corrupted procurement officials- things will be very interesting in a few years.
"if we assume that the russians got rid of the corrupted procurement officials" <- Never ever. I repeat Never ever will happened.
You are dreaming, please wake up
 
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"if we assume that the russians got rid of the corrupted procurement officials" <- Never ever. I repeat Never ever will happened.
You are dreaming, please wake up
Normally I'd agree but the only thing that could cause Russian corruption to temporarily reduce is total war. Only because war brings the Russian military's ineffectiveness to light, and the regime's survival depends on it being effective.
 

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Hi bisbis
the last paragraph of your post is extremely incoherent. Will the West impose sanctions on Turkey? Will Russia sell UAVs and to whom?
could you maybe elaborate on that part please?
Or not...
 

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Hi bisbis
the last paragraph of your post is extremely incoherent. Will the West impose sanctions on Turkey? Will Russia sell UAVs and to whom?
could you maybe elaborate on that part please?
Sorry. Ripley, you are right. I mean that "what if Türkiye sells it to Russia." For example Bayraktar tb2, Bayraktar Akıncı, Kızılelma.
 

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