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Liberals urge Biden to rethink Ukraine strategy​


A group of 30 House liberals is urging President Biden to dramatically shift his strategy on the Ukraine war and pursue direct negotiations with Russia, the first time prominent members of his own party have pushed him to change his approach to Ukraine.

The letter, sent to the White House on Monday and obtained by The Washington Post, could create more pressure on Biden as he tries to sustain domestic support for the war effort, at a time when the region is heading into a potentially difficult winter and Republicans are threatening to cut aid to Ukraine if they retake Congress.
They have retracted the letter after intense criticism: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/poli...ukraine-letter-democratic-backlash/index.html

They claim that the letter was written and signed in June and released now by a staffer without approval, a rather dubious claim considering initially they only backtracked, and only later completely retracted it:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...biden-to-find-diplomatic-solution-to-ukraine/
 
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They have retracted the letter after intense criticism: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/poli...ukraine-letter-democratic-backlash/index.html

They claim that the letter was initially written in June and released without approval, a rather dubious claim considering initially they only backtracked, and only later completely retracted it:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...biden-to-find-diplomatic-solution-to-ukraine/
Actually, these claims don't matter. Because in November, the Democrats will lose the majority in the House of Representatives and Congress to the Republicans.

 

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Actually, these claims don't matter. Because in November, the Democrats will lose the majority in the House of Representatives and Congress to the Republicans.

Manager of petrodollar also wants republican victory.
 

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Actually, these claims don't matter. Because in November, the Democrats will lose the majority in the House of Representatives and Congress to the Republicans.

They most certainly do matter. While Republicans may win a majority, much of the legislation will still be passed with votes from both Democrats and Republicans. Plenty of legislation requires more than a simple majority. Additionally, while support for funding Ukraine is greater among Democrats, the majority of Republicans have also been voting in favor. You can see more of how voting for Ukraine-related resolutions looks here: https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/accafdf6-0d5d-4989-94f3-00ea272ef396
The retraction is also significant because it indicates the level of disapproval among the public for such statements.

Also, I think you meant House of Representatives and Senate. While Congress can used to refer to both chambers (House of Representatives and Senate), it is not used for referring to Senators separately. Additionally the most likely outcome is Democrats retaining control of the Senate, since it will be a 50-50 even split but Democrats break tie through the Vice President.
 

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It was forgotten because of the war, it was said that the USA has biological research centers in Ukraine, there was no news about them for a long time. Does anyone have any information?
 

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Zelensky met with President of Federal Germany, Frank-Walter Steinmeier

"Germany's contribution to our path to peace and the restoration of territorial integrity is very significant," the President of Ukraine said.

As it has already become known, Germany will transfer two more MARS II multiple launch rocket systems and four Panzerhaubitze 2000 howitzers to Ukraine.

Steinmeier announced this at a briefing in Kyiv.

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The United States is considering the possibility of transferring HAWK air defense systems to Ukraine, - Reuters

"The Biden administration would use the 'presidential stockpile reduction' program to transfer HAWK equipment, which is based on Vietnam-era technology but has been upgraded several times.

The PDA program allows the United States to quickly transfer defense goods and services from stockpiles without congressional approval in response to an emergency."

The Hawk interceptor missiles are more powerful systems than the Stinger missile systems that the United States has been sending to Ukraine to defend against Russian aggression.

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AFU carried out 15 airstrikes on the invaders
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Aviation of the AFU provides significant assistance to the ground forces

In the village of Cairo, Kherson region, up to 30 invaders were destroyed, and more than 100 enemy servicemen remained under the rubble.

The Ukrainian Defense Forces carried out 15 airstrikes on the Russian occupiers during the day. This was reported by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the evening summary on Tuesday, October 25.



The defeat of 12 areas of concentration of weapons and military equipment, two strongholds, as well as the position of the enemy's anti-aircraft missile system was confirmed. The air defense units shot down the UAV," the statement says

artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine also hit the command post, eight areas of concentration of manpower, weapons and military equipment, ammunition and other important military facilities of the occupiers.

"According to updated information, the consequences of enemy fire damage have been confirmed. As a result of pinpoint strikes by artillery of the Defense Forces, up to 30 invaders were destroyed in the village of Cairo, Kherson region, and more than 100 enemy servicemen remained under the rubble. In the village of Gornostaevka, after the detonation of the the number of ambulances. Losses are carefully hidden by the enemy," the General Staff added.


In turn, the Russian invaders launched three missile and 11 air strikes during the day, and also carried out more than 25 attacks from multiple launch rocket systems. Districts of 25 settlements fell under the fire of the invaders. Among them are Nikopol in the Dnipropetrovsk region, Bakhmutskoe and Vuhledar in the Donetsk region, as well as Novaya Kamenka in the Kherson region.
 

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❗️There are reports from Iran :

IRGC officer was killed in daylight near the city of #Zahedan. Colonel Molashakhi was killed in a car where he was sitting next to one of the commanders of the Basij organization Javad Kikha (Also killed)
It is being said:
They were responsible for training Shahid operators and supplying spare parts to the Russian Federation

Could it have been the anti-drone information assistance that Israel had promised?
 

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you know sometimes i give a little benefit of a doubt or a 1% for something like Ukraine winning the war but the news I received today just pushes my certainity to 100% when western politicians are acting like doomers.

Democrats were going to send a letter to biden regarding negotations with Putin about the ukraine war but pulled it back.

Macron of course has a pro-ukraine stance and him wanting the pope to have a say in the negotations with Putin and Zelensky than himself just proves that the negotations will favor putin if he wants someone else to have the say in that matter.

Something must have happened today and the following reasons i can randomly think of could be.

1. The 300k reservists with their equipment would be enough for Kiev because german reports said 200k ukrainian soldiers were killed in this war and kiev and odessa will not have enough equipment and manpower to deal with the onslaught because previous factors have shown that one russian dies for every 5 ukrainian soldiers and the most pro-ukraine user with alot of followers Julian felt displeased that there was barely any russian equipment left behind suggesting they retreated successfully which got many pro-ukraine fans pissed at him and ukrainian sources have stated they got massacred in their last offensive

2. Russia has shared the dirty bomb evidence that Ukraine is preparing with western colleagues who were brushing it off according to todays news but their doomer mood suggests that Russia will retaliate with nukes if the dirty bomb is used. Russias intel spoke with western intel and western intel must have spoke to the western politicians since they are are all acting like doomers

Imagine having a friend tell you, that you can kick this one guys ass and you feel motivated to do it. But instead you have that same friend pat you on the back saying he will kick your ass but give it your best, this shit might demoralize your fighting spirit because you wont get the end results of kicking that guys ass in the end. I dont want people to have 100% certainty that they think their favorite team will win so its best to prepare for the worst so that the end results wont be that devastating in the end.
 

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Strike on Dnieper: a pregnant woman died
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The Office of the President gave details of the tragedy that occurred at the gas station.



"2 people were killed. A pregnant woman burned down in the car, and a car wash operator also died. 3 people were hospitalized. The occupiers hit the city with a rocket. As a result of the strike, a complex of gas station buildings was destroyed - gas stations, a car wash, a tire shop and 2 cars. Another car was damaged. Also The store and operator's room were partially destroyed," the statement said.



The head of the Presidential Office, Andrey Yermak, called this Russian strike another terrorist attack.

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Strike on Dnieper: a pregnant woman died
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The Office of the President gave details of the tragedy that occurred at the gas station.



"2 people were killed. A pregnant woman burned down in the car, and a car wash operator also died. 3 people were hospitalized. The occupiers hit the city with a rocket. As a result of the strike, a complex of gas station buildings was destroyed - gas stations, a car wash, a tire shop and 2 cars. Another car was damaged. Also The store and operator's room were partially destroyed," the statement said.



The head of the Presidential Office, Andrey Yermak, called this Russian strike another terrorist attack.

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ukrainians sure do have a habit of copying Russian media and spinning their own stories on it for some reason, not like this has happened 100 times before.



 

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In some Russian accounts on Twitter, it is written that Russia will purchase a Yasin wing bomb guidance system from Iran. But will these bomb kits fit russian planes? Suspicious. Because the bomb with the guidance kit is a NATO standard bomb. The shapes of Russian bombs are very different.

But if the Russians adapt this Yasin winged guidance kit to their own bombs, we can say that Ukraine is facing hard times. Because, Russian warplanes will be able to hit many targets with high accuracy with the 60 km range yacina wing guidance kit without entering the sphere of influence of the Ukrainian air defense system.
 

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Russia is butthurt about Australia training Ukrainian troops.

We seen how the Russians laughed off when their proxies missile striked a passenger plane when everything got exposed they laughed it off.

Too bad our retarded leaders did not do enough to punish Russia for that.

I know Australia wont be going to war but there is other ways in hurting Russia.
 

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Dont know much about Turkeys relationship with Iran but you got to give credit where credit is due in making 20,000 dollar drone effective.

 
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This still gets me...


Country is run/owned by corrupt billionaires, meanwhile when they send you to die in an illegal war, make sure you take some of your wives tampons in case you get shot.

Only a mug or a propaganda shill can defend this leadership. So if you Russians on here get called up, make sure you got a supply of tampons. The tampon business must be booming right now in Russia.
 

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