Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586888938588889092

 

[Era_shield]

As you might know, Germany is very sensible with radical ideologies which can led to confilcts/wars, so they don't hesitate to create laws against them if needed.

It's naked totalitarianism. After Ukraine, maybe the USA should provide weapons to liberate Germans from their draconian government?

 

[GoatsMilk]

Ak party/Erdogan are not my problem but apparently yours.
Leave Islam out of it and say what you want about the president and his party. Two different things.
Thank you.

Don't dictate to me about what i can and cannot talk about. Its you whose making a problem here. Don't like what i have to say use the ignore function. This isn't North Korea or Iran.

Thank you.

I have all the Russian shills on here who defend a genocidal regime on ignore, I don't tell them what they can or cannot talk about. I simple choose to ignore it. In a free society you need to allow all opposing ideas to have their say, because if you shut down their ability to freely talk you will end up shutting down your own in the long run.

You are under no obligation to agree or disagree or to like or dislike anything i have to say, but is disrespectful to start dictating to someone you don't know and will never know, what he should or shouldn't talk about.

And truth be told I've pointed out countless time on this forum that when i say Islamists i mean "political islamists" which really means "non-religious political opportunists operating in Muslim majority nations who use the religion for maximum personal profit and power."

The underlying ideology of Turkeys ruling party is important because it explains Turkeys behaviour towards Russia and then how that behaviour directly effects Ukraine as well as Turkey.

No geopolitical analyst would ignore the underlying ideology of the ones in power calling the shots.

Just like the underlying ideology for Putin and what led to his mad invasion of Ukraine was the belief in a greater imperial Russia in the mould of the former soviet union.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Don't dictate to me about what i can and cannot talk about. Its you whose making a problem here. Don't like what i have to say use the ignore function. This isn't North Korea or Iran.

Thank you.

I'm only asking you nicely.
The fact that you bash Islam at every given chance using the anti-AKP/Erdogan trend is getting old and offensive against the majority of my country.
You don't see anyone here bashing Alevis, Christians or Jews. And it's not hard to.

I like your posts and your humour, but I'm asking you to be more sensitive in your writings.
Thank you.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586695343479070723

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586696589426442241

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586827874757005313

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586799348343611393

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586844416181944320

More than likely we all know westerners will fly these than the Ukrainians themselves. I think it will consist of F-16s, F-15s and F-4s. Based on crash reports of operational F-35s in comparison to F-16s I think F-35s wont be used. I have seen an S-200 hit a F-16I in Syria before and those have EW capabilities, so besides getting these aircrafts I wonder how much? September 2019 states Russia has 57 battalions of S-400s and each battalion consists of 8 launchers so I am guessing there are probably more launchers ordered since 2022 along with plenty of S-300 reserves. I would also like to see these aircrafts fight some sukhoi or migs as well. I barely hear reports of S-400s being used in this war.

Other lessons about this war

Ukraine got memeraktars and 100s of switchblade(lancet equivalent) drones yet only videos of shahads and lancets hitting tanks, tunguskas, SAM batteries, vehicles, and radars and Ukraine announcing their drones are shit wont help market NATO drones to countries that are not western countries.

HIMARs and smerch hitting targets and shit, So have one side mixing HIMARs, western MLRS systems with soviet equipment and the other using soviet equipment, yet the one side with soviet equipment and a smaller force than Ukraine in this war once again is making gains as we speak. I have no idea if the high end Tornado MLRS systems have been used or not. Other than both destroying shit but a wounded ukrainian interviewed in the early septermber offensive admitted that what they fired artillery wise they got fired back 5 times the amount. Besides using drones they even get creative using systems like penicillin which uses sound and heat from adversary MLRS shells to pinpoint and locate where their locations are at, obviously I dont think NATO has shit like that.

Ukraine is getting western SAMs like NASAMs but the thing is would you want to spend 1.2 million dollars for a SAM missile with some chances of hitting a drone that costs 20,000 to 30,000 dollars and lancet drones being even way cheaper? This is why Russia is still working on short range SAMs to be quadpacked at a cheaper cost to intercept drones.

Work smart not hard is Russia's motive on this war against a country that has so many western systems supplied free of costs with a larger force trained by NATO for 8 years. I am sure alot of higher ups from other countries are taking alot of notes on what they saw of this war.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/yhlv7b
The day american planes are given to Ukraine its going to be really interesting. Ukrainians have been able to beat the Russians back using peanuts, once they get a proper airforce going, then its going to be something.

 

[Gary]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/yhlv7b
The day american planes are given to Ukraine its going to be really interesting. Ukrainians have been able to beat the Russians back using peanuts, once they get a proper airforce going, then its going to be something.

Ukraine manage to prevent a Russian air superiority with Soviet times Su-27P and MiG-29A. They will appreciate just how far ahead those F-16s and F-15s are once their pilots gets their hands on one.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Ukraine manage to prevent a Russian air superiority with Soviet times Su-27P and MiG-29A. They will appreciate just how far ahead those F-16s and F-15s are once their pilots gets their hands on one.

And thats the major problem Russia faces, they cannot control what 3rd party nations decide to send Ukraine. For the first 5 months of this war Ukraine basically had the drones, the manpads and anti-tank weapons on top of all their soviet era junk. Using those weapons was enough to basically stop the invasion from succeeding. Once the Americans sent the Himars in, all of the sudden it turned into a war where the Russians are constantly on the defensive, until they have to retreat.

How hard Putin gets screwed is entirely in hands of what weapons America wants to send Ukraine. And if we look at how the americans have played this game, they have been entirely incremental. So once the F16's are sent in, the question then becomes what comes next for Ukraine?

Its incredible how Russia got is so wrong in Ukraine. What a colossal disaster for Putin and Russia.

On a site note, this should also be a lesson for Turkey not to advertise what strategic weapons she has. Because tomorrow if a war comes against greece over a myriad of issues, the only chance Turkey has to politically succeed is if the conflict is swift. But by revealing weapons you allow the greeks and their american owners to supply them with equipment that can counter the advantage. And if Turkey is dragged into a similar protracted conflict, the americans will do exactly the same game to Turkey as done to Russia. And Turkey doesnt have the gas and oil revenue card to allow a financial position to sustain long term war, sanctions and embargoes.

 

[blackjack]

More NATO equipment for Ukraine please

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586984320698286081

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586982181229850624

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586983590285692928

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586850196222255106

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586814260729892864

 

[Gary]

How hard Putin gets screwed is entirely in hands of what weapons America wants to send Ukraine. And if we look at how the americans have played this game, they have been entirely incremental. So once the F16's are sent in, the question then becomes what comes next for Ukraine?

I believe fighter jets will be peak American aid to Ukraine (along with M1 Abrams), unless of course the US is willing to donate aircraft carriers.

Biden would prolly approve more lethal aid after the midterms election conclude.

 

[bisbis]

It's naked totalitarianism. After Ukraine, maybe the USA should provide weapons to liberate Germans from their draconian government?

Hold on man, let's save this beautiful world from the tyranny of the USA and England first, Then it's time for Germany, Russia, Israel. Look, blood is still flowing in Syria and Ukraine.

 

[Kathirz]

Kathirz sad; As you might know, Germany is very sensible with radical ideologies which can led to confilcts/wars, so they don't hesitate to create laws against them if needed.

Yes, we are aware that there are huge internal conflicts in Germany at the moment due to the differences of opinion on the ukraine war!

Dude, are you kidding us?

It literally means you can't think to people. Human rights and democracy are finished in Germany. What are you defending?

The reason for this law is that the German people know that this war is the war of usa and england, and that's why they know that they have economic difficulties, they are left without gas, and now they are rebelling against this situation.

The German government suppresses this objection dictatorially.

It's naked totalitarianism. After Ukraine, maybe the USA should provide weapons to liberate Germans from their draconian government?

I understand your concerns here... it is a hot topic. Just saying, I'm a fan of freedom of speech but I could understand German point of view looking at their own history behind.

But let's stay on topic here and let Germans do german things, Ukranians do ukranian things and Russians do russian things.

 

[Kathirz]

It seems Ru launched today another massive missile attack in retaliation for the attack on the black sea fleet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1587011315222061056

Would be nice to know how many missiles were launched against UKR today to see how much the recently delivered anti-air defenses made a difference.

 

[UkroTurk]

In the Kherson region, during the morning attack, a Russian Ka-52 helicopter was destroyed, - OK "South".

 

[UkroTurk]

Admiral "MakAronov "hurted too much

⚡️Consequences of the morning rocket attack on Ukraine

It was one of the most massive attacks on the critical infrastructure of Ukraine:


Kyiv region - a power facility that supplies about 350,000 apartments in Kyiv was damaged. City partial without light and water;

❗️80% (!) of Kyiv without water supply. Also part of the city without electricity, - Vitali Klitschko

Lviv region - air defense worked out;
Chernivtsi region - critical infrastructure damaged;
Kharkiv - two arrivals on critical infrastructure. Metro and electric transport does not work;
Zaporozhye region - arrival at a critical infrastructure facility. The city has power outages;
Cherkasy region - after the attack of critical infrastructure, part of the region was de-energized;
Kirovograd region - missiles hit one of the energy facilities in the Svetlovodsk region;
Vinnytsia region - a Russian missile was shot down, debris fell on civilian objects;
Khmelnychchyna - a rocket was shot down, debris fell on civilian objects, previously without casualties.

UPD: Explosions have just sounded in the Dnieper, Pavlograd, Zaporozhye. These are rockets from the new launch, which we wrote about earlier.

❗️The Russians launched missile strikes on three hydroelectric power plants in Ukraine. the Dnieper, Dniester and Kremenchug hydroelectric power stations, - reports the specialized publication Elektrovesti

Rashists provoked an environmental disaster at the Zaporizhzhia NPP.

As a result of the stoppage of the power units of the station, warm water does not enter the cooling pond of the ZNPP, as a result of which the water temperature dropped to about +13 degrees. This led to a mass die-off of fish in the pond. If the temperature of the water in the cooling pond does not rise in the near future, about a thousand tons of dead fish will be washed ashore.

 

[UkroTurk]

❗️In the north of Moldova, in the village A Russian rocket fell on Neslavcha in the morning. Several windows were broken in some houses. Currently, the forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs have cordoned off the area to avoid possible dangers - local media, citing the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the country

⚡️Photo of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Moldova. One of the Russian missiles hit the territory of the country

 

[Anmdt]

Really interesting topic, the USV will probably act as a torpedo, so it's not intended to pierce the hull of the ship but create a gas bubble, displacing a lot of water and creating some kind of vacuum into the water under the ship, which is even more destructive than a missile.

Let's wait for more info.

I doubt if that USV is able to submerge or convert into an UUV and act as a torpedo. I highly doubt if it is capable of submerging to a fixed depth and then detonating by using magnetometers as şf a torpedo. Likely its warhead is slightly below the waterline and may not be piercing type but general HE. And assuming the weather, it might have damaged way below than the waterline or higher. At least, it seems that they know where machinery room is located in and thus redirecting it to machinery room to at least cause a major fire.

 

[UkroTurk]

Russia spent from 400 to 700 million dollars on the morning missile attack on Ukraine

The Air Force Command reported that more than 50 Kh-101/Kh-555 cruise missiles were launched in Ukraine. The cost of the Kh-101 rocket is $13 million, the cost of the Kh-555 is $7.5 million. The amount spent exceeds half of the annual budgets of Novosibirsk or Yekaterinburg.

Shit, millions of dollars just for turning off the light for Ukrainians for a few hours

RuZZkies you will end up in junk

 

[Era_shield]

This could get very messy:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1586840910054277120

 

[Timur]

⚡️Photo of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Moldova. One of the Russian missiles hit the territory of the country

this is just russian way to show power its on purpose..