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So with that logic. USSR should have invade all neighboring countries including Turkey because of joining NATO. Or Iran should attack Azerbaijan because of her increased ties with Israel?
No, it actually means very simple.

Managers are primarily responsible for the state of the people and the country.

Today, if the Ukrainian people are in a bad state, the first responsible for this is Zelensky.

The country is not governed by pretending to be a hero through the media, by appearing on the screens and saying that we are victims.

Zelensky should have accepted failure and resigned because I was responsible for this bad situation on the screens.

That's what a normal manager would do. But since Zelensky is a member of the USA and England, the process does not work normally.
 

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No, it actually means very simple.

Managers are primarily responsible for the state of the people and the country.

Today, if the Ukrainian people are in a bad state, the first responsible for this is Zelensky.

The country is not governed by pretending to be a hero through the media, by appearing on the screens and saying that we are victims.

Zelensky should have accepted failure and resigned because I was responsible for this bad situation on the screens.

That's what a normal manager would do. But since Zelensky is a member of the USA and England, the process does not work normally.
When your country attacked you would fight, you dont submit to the enemy. Why Putin is not responsible for anything?
 
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Deep inside those Z supporters lies a deep fear that they will have to face a defeat, from a country abd people that they looked down upon for so many years. Hence we saw the casual bragging on how they manage to destroy livelihood in Ukraine while at the same time trying to fool others that they care about Ukraine (hence Ukraine should surrender ASAP 😂).

Whether its Geroman, Spriter, that moron AlSomal in P*F and Z supporters in general. Let's face it, this is not Syria or Chechnya where you could bomb people, party above their suffering and gets away with it. This time around, Ukraine could not only avenge your crime, they could persistently humiliate your beloved Russian army.

So save me (and us) the dumb "ZeLEnsKY shUd StEP dOwN" or "ZeLEnSKy CaUSE thE eLecTriCaL shorTAge". No one in Ukraine or their western donor are backing down. You will not have your ceasefire, because you know what? This isn't Syria where the local Syrian opposition leaders are dumb enough to give you time to rest and recuperate.

So cope and seethe harder.
 

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Ukraine is advancing on all fronts and these Z guys is busy advancing on some google map.

 

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YPG exploded a bomb in Istanbul.

Who are we to hold responsible, the usa, russia, greece, or the government in charge of our security at the time? Does our president say to TV, we are victims, help us, fight for us? No. Despite all threats and obstacles, it punishes terrorists on the spot.

Zelensky had to consider every possibility while determining his policies. İncluding war. But I think he was writing funny skits at the time.
 

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YPG exploded a bomb in Istanbul.

Who are we to hold responsible, the usa, russia, greece, or the government in charge of our security at the time? Does our president say to TV, we are victims, help us, fight for us? No. Despite all threats and obstacles, it punishes terrorists on the spot.

Zelensky had to consider every possibility while determining his policies. İncluding war. But I think he was writing funny skits at the time.
So you are comparing YPG and Russia? So Turkey vs ypg is same as Russia vs Russia. What kind of logic is this?
Tell us why Ukraine did deserve to be invaded?
 

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Tell us why Ukraine did deserve to be invaded?
Simply put according to Z guy, Ukraine is "Russia's backyard". So they only have one choice, be under Russia. If not, Ukraine must perish.

This is the main reason behind the invasion. Not NATO whatsoever.
 

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No, it actually means very simple.

Managers are primarily responsible for the state of the people and the country.

Today, if the Ukrainian people are in a bad state, the first responsible for this is Zelensky.

The country is not governed by pretending to be a hero through the media, by appearing on the screens and saying that we are victims.

Zelensky should have accepted failure and resigned because I was responsible for this bad situation on the screens.

That's what a normal manager would do. But since Zelensky is a member of the USA and England, the process does not work normally.
by the same token Assad is responsible for Syria's deplorable state and should resign, but he's not doing it because he's part of Russia, right?
 

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Please everyone watch your language, personal attacks will not be tolerated and will lead to warnings.
 

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by the same token Assad is responsible for Syria's deplorable state and should resign, but he's not doing it because he's part of Russia, right?
Exactly, zelensky is also a man of the usa. Despite the fact that he destroyed his country with the power and media support of the USA, he is shown as a hero.
 

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So you are comparing YPG and Russia? So Turkey vs ypg is same as Russia vs Russia. What kind of logic is this?
Tell us why Ukraine did deserve to be invaded?
If you read the previous posts you will understand.
 

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Simply put according to Z guy, Ukraine is "Russia's backyard". So they only have one choice, be under Russia. If not, Ukraine must perish.

This is the main reason behind the invasion. Not NATO whatsoever.
Yes, this American cowboy finds a solution by deflecting the subject when he can't find an answer to give.

İts too clear. Usa and zelensky's bad politicks.
 

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Despite the fact that he destroyed his country with the power and media support of the USA.
Enough! Putin and his gang attacking civilian infrastructure and about to cause mass deaths. You still seek agitation, distortion, and blaming the victim. Even if Zelensky is a US puppet, Putin is still a war criminal. And this is not the only war in which he has committed crimes.
 

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Enough! Putin and his gang attacking civilian infrastructure and about to cause mass deaths. You still seek agitation, distortion, and blaming the victim. Even if Zelensky is a US puppet, Putin is still a war criminal. And this is not the only war in which he has committed crimes.

Oooo, the thinking man finally came to our conversation.

He came and interrupted his judgment. :).

If you think about the oppressed so much, the persecution will not end until you blame Biden as much as you blame Putin.

Here is the real judgment!
 
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