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Yup, and they're on their way to retake all land back to pre feb 2022. Imo, they will also retake Crimea as well by late 2023.
having a lot of optimism is not the same as the actual results, A Ukrainian in early September stated they lost 5 of them for 1 Russian soldier and another interviewed stated if they fired 3 mortars 20 got fired back in return than a week or 2 ago I see a online video of a Ukrainian tanker crying that there were 25 of them and only 8 of them including himself were left alive in their recent charge, and now Kherson is getting evacuated. Zelensky claims 700k soldiers while in this operation there are like 400-450k Russian soldiers. They are increasing their modern equipment like having 3 work shifts for production of tornado MLRS systems, while the west has recently made excuses that they are running low on ammunition. I am sorry but anyone with two functioning brain cells can do the math that Ukraine won't take Crimea if they are abandoning Kherson again.

You can follow oryx as being very trustworthy making Ukrainian soldiers all Rambos, but Ukrainian soldiers that get interviewed tell a different a story from Oryx. Do not set your hopes up too high.
 

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So why don't Putin try diplomacy instead ? I mean its not NATO tanks that rolled up into Ukraine
I am not Putin's spokesperson. please ask him.

I am interested in the part that concerns my country. Let the Russians think about that part.

If the USA and England had given so many weapons to Ukraine before Russia attacked, perhaps the Russians would have been afraid to attack.

But this time Ukraine would not have fought for the USA!
 
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I'm going to be charitable and assume that bisbis doesn't mean that Ukraine deserved to be invaded or making any moral judgements but simply claiming that in a purely geopolitical sense, given it's geographic position, Ukraine should've attempted to balance between the EU and Russia instead of openly going for the EU and avoid triggering the Russians. I think personally that this position is silly and Russia would've found an excuse to invade Ukraine anyway as their political class made it fairly clear that Russia does not consider Ukraine an independent country that can choose its own fate.

Additionally this entire situation can be considered Russia's fault even if you assume that it was all a grand conspiracy to turn Ukraine against Russia. Ukraine chooses the EU, what does Russia do? Launch a military invasion and annex parts of Ukrainian territory. This is literally the stupidest thing Russia could've done. If I was some Illuminati mastermind planning to break up Russian and Ukrainian relations, I couldn't have asked for a better response by Russia that plays directly into my hands.
Anastasius, you are very benevolent. But your mind is not impartial. West always dominates.
 

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FSB officer Hvoida,
playing role as "soldier's mother" in a meeting with Putin
As we already know putin is not meeting with russians at all, because he is afraid that russian people can kill him.
That is why he use FSB agents to play a role as "soldier's mother" and them make propaganda video for russian citizens


all of them are FSB agent working in different regions
Utterly despicable. A total farce.
 

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What the PKK is to Turkey is what Azov is to Russia, to each his own is all I have to say. I just like Turkey's military technology and current political stance which is why I want them to be closer partners with Russia, despite the negative sentiment from most users here on this thread. Turkey in my opinion is just incompatible with the current west and its policies.
PKK wants land from Turkiye! Ukraine just wants to be left alone. Ukraine is not interested in forging closer ties with Russia and honestly, who can blame them.
 

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You can follow oryx as being very trustworthy making Ukrainian soldiers all Rambos, but Ukrainian soldiers that get interviewed tell a different a story from Oryx. Do not set your hopes up too high.
At least they get to tell their version of the story. Freezing Russian soldier wont even have the chances to tell their story.

They are increasing their modern equipment like having 3 work shifts for production of tornado MLRS systems, while the west has recently made excuses that they are running low on ammunition. I am sorry but anyone with two functioning brain cells can do the math that Ukraine won't take Crimea if they are abandoning Kherson again.
Zircon, and many of your wunderwaffe don't work. Yet here you are hyping the Tornado MLRS:rolleyes:. Whatever Russia can produce, the Western alliance can produce more.

I have made one tiny example on how there are more JASSM in US stockpile than any strategic long range Russian air launched munitions combined. Go look it up.
Sounds like a lot of stockpile, but just to give an idea, there should be around 4000+ JASSM/JASSM-ER in US stockpile by now. Almost 4 times the entire strategic conventional Russian air launched cruise missile stock in the list . While an ⬆️ in numbers per lot (up to 600 a year) are expected as Lockheed Martin are expanding their production with new facility in Alabama. That's just the JASSM, not including other air launched standoff weapons or sea based Tomahawk.

While the lot 7 and 8 LRASM will total up the order 634 live munitions included with older lots.

took with caution, but interesting if true.

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Pakistan seems to be sending shells and ammo to Ukraine.

Nothing has been acknowledged officially about it but interesting nonetheless.
 

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@blackjack , you know the US has tens of thousands of these no ?


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As it is propagated to us, not all the people of the USA unconditionally support the aid to Ukraine.

They don't see Zelensky as a hero.
 

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Enough! Putin and his gang attacking civilian infrastructure and about to cause mass deaths. You still seek agitation, distortion, and blaming the victim. Even if Zelensky is a US puppet, Putin is still a war criminal. And this is not the only war in which he has committed crimes.
We have many leftists they really are worse! He may be one.. Leftists will defend Russia even more than their kin..

All that if he really is from turkey..

If from Azerbaycan he may be sowjet brainwashed russian inferior race lover skip that both people they are not worth anything..

Defending Russia here shows a mindset without reason without human values.. Pinpointing to the USA has done bad works only if you capable of criticizing both and he shurly lacks this ability

Furthermore he is much more pro russian than some Russians themselves

All in all I can't take someone like this serious the hate against Ukrainians you see it clearly no examples are needed just read the postings while Russians are the saviors and the good ones.. This is actual Russian point of view what all these Russian fanatics and media are injecting to the internet a pro Putin pro Russia path without any sense of critics and justification like drug addict
 

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At least they get to tell their version of the story. Freezing Russian soldier wont even have the chances to tell their story.
Fighting in the winter, isnt that like Russia's specialty, you can go ask Napoleon and Hitler. Ukrainians don't seem to have much heating hope they will be fine these coming weeks according to the weather forecast. Atleast Turks don't want to be stupid like euros to heat their houses.

Zircon, and many of your wunderwaffe don't work. Yet here you are hyping the Tornado MLRS:rolleyes:. Whatever Russia can produce, the Western alliance can produce more.

I have made one tiny example on how there are more JASSM in US stockpile than any strategic long range Russian air launched munitions combined. Go look it up.
Any proof that Zircon doesn't work just because kalibrs and shahads are enough for Ukraine. NATO had longer range air to ground missiles than serbs having short range air defenses and not even a long range S-200 system and still NATO aircrafts were shot down. And your thinking JASSM cant be jammed or follow decoys or get shot down by air defense systems.
you know the US has tens of thousands of these no ?
1. Expensive (Excalibur is $80k for God's sake and it's a 155mm artillery shell)
2. Small number of munitions that will be sent to the Ukraine
3. Slow (HIMARS are Mach 2.5 and get shot down easily)
4. Russia will capture them
5. Only effective against stationary targets that aren't well defended (a.k.a civilian areas)
6. How high will the GMLRS glide bombs have to be lofted in the air to get the full 150km's range?

A new long-range (200 km) high-precision missile 9M544 for the Tornado-S system was tested in 2020. Based on paper western equipment looks good but their practicality on the battlefield makes no sense. Giving Abrams, leopards and challengers based on their weight alone will make them sink and we saw a lot of lesser weight western equipment sink in Ukraine. Spending 1.2 million dollars per SAM for 20k-30k dollar iranian drones. If Turkey was to only rely on western weapons for Syria, and Russia was to rely on western weapons for Ukraine both would go broke really fast. F-35 still crashes alot and its not even used in a warfare/EW contested environment. This isn't even funny man.
 

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