Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Ryder]

Now we will get a Prigohzin version of this hahahaha

 

[Gary]

Imo this could be useful, especially in replenishment missions in the Black Sea

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694626098242302456

To avoid a repetition of this

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693972010517369128

 

[UkroTurk]

Special forces of Ukraine landed in the Crimea




The GUR called the results of the operation in the Crimea

Positions of the 3rd Radio Engineering Regiment of the Russian Federation at Cape Tarkhankut




In the village of Mayak there is a base of the 3rd radio engineering regiment as part of the radio engineering troops of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation.

The Ukrainian military, as a result of a special operation in the temporarily occupied Crimea, damaged four Russian speedboats and destroyed at least 30 enemies.

This was stated by the speaker of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of the Ministry of Defense Andrei Yusov in a comment to Suspіlny on Thursday, June 24.

The special operation was carried out near the village of Mayak. According to the interactive map of the Crimean military installations, it is in this settlement that the base of the 3rd radio engineering regiment is located as part of the radio engineering troops of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation.

"Also, on the Tarkhankut peninsula, there is a radar station of the Nebo-M radar and Kasta-2E2 radar. Positions for air defense have been prepared along the perimeter," the newspaper writes.

In turn, the head of the GUR, Kirill Budanov, named the main goal of the landing of the Ukrainian military in the Crimea.

"The importance of this operation lies in the fact that people, first of all, not even on the territory of mainland Ukraine, but people in Crimea, believe that victory is not far off, and their liberation is also not far off. The return to normal life continues Nobody forgot about them, and nobody is going to just leave them there," Budanov said on the air of the telethon.

 

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[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694750335053492582

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694741642295521691

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694732028913054178

 

[Relic]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694750335053492582

Lol

A combination of stupidity and propaganda. Ukraine is not running out of military aged men (18-65). They've drafted fewer than 1 million men at this point in the conflict. The Ukrainian population consists of between 9-11 million military aged men. They are nowhere near running out of people and they continue to train tens of thousands of new soldiers in Britain, Germany, Poland, Romania, etc.

Absolute delusion.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1694784007060238829

The Pentagon now announces that the plane carrying Prigozhin, the head of Wagner, was not hit by a missile.

 

[blackjack]

Lol

A combination of stupidity and propaganda. Ukraine is not running out of military aged men (18-65). They've drafted fewer than 1 million men at this point in the conflict. The Ukrainian population consists of between 9-11 million military aged men. They are nowhere near running out of people and they continue to train tens of thousands of new soldiers in Britain, Germany, Poland, Romania, etc.

Absolute delusion.

I was basically the one responsible for causing the 3 tweet rule thread, because users here got literally pissed off when I posted like this user did of Uktaine losing equipment.

Basically how Tam posted everyday in that forum is like how I posted here everyday with new updates on Ukraine's equipment.
This information is from like late april 2023.

Численность армии России на Украине: количество военнослужащих и резерва

Численность армии России на Украине, количество военнослужащих на Херсонском и Запорожском направлении, какой резерв, цифры и мнение, факты

amalantra.ru

In total, at the time of the start of the special military operation, the number of the Russian army in Ukraine (Donbass, Kharkov direction and grouping near Kyiv) was about 80 thousand fighters, and about 50 thousand more LDNR servicemen. In the fall of 2022 and at the beginning of 2023, to these 130 thousand bayonets, another 300 thousand "Kuzmich" and 100 thousand volunteers of BARS and PMCs were added.

In total, the number of the Russian army in Ukraine, at the time of the spring of 2023, is more than half a million fighters, which does not coincide in number with the statements of the enemy.

Most recently, the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine officially announced the figure of 370 thousand servicemen of the Russian army, who are now stationed at the front and divided into 48 brigades, 122 regiments and 315 other formations. From this number, it becomes clear that Ukraine's intelligence does not take into account the Russian reserve, the figure of which reaches 200 thousand fighters.

Ukraine probably lost another 100k or so troops and based on Tam's daily posts and what pro-ukraine users have posted ukraine loses a shitload of more equipment than Russia and they are still i think fighting to get passed the 1st line of defense. If Russia is planning an offensive in Fall I hope Ukraine after 6 waves of mobilization counter offensives has enough troops

 

[Alan]

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Hopefully Ukraine takes back Donbass but its not going to easy.

If they take back Donbass no doubt there is going to be a long drawn out insurgency especially since that province is mainly Russians. I hope they can return Ukrainian refugees that fled there to come back. As long as Russians live there its going to be hard to control that place.

Overall I back Ukraine to take it back. If only they did not lose Crimea. Crimea is more important than Donbass.

Hey mate can you help spread this petition?

This campaign needs you now

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[Ryder]

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Hey mate can you help spread this petition?

This campaign needs you now

Save Ukranian Lives! - Send idle unwanted Australia F18s to Ukraine now!

chng.it

Im sharing it on whatsapp with family and friends.

Social media is the best way to spread.

Plus I think sending a letter to the defence department would work too.

Stupid for these FA18 hornets to rust in the depo or being buried in the outback just like the F111s.

 

[UkroTurk]

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan arrived in Kyiv and met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyi.

The interlocutors discussed many important issues, including the Black Sea Grain Corridor.

 

[UkroTurk]

"The first line of defense in the south is broken"

The American general spoke about the situation at the front


In the Zaporozhye region, AFU broke through the first line of Russian fortifications.

In an interview with the Al-Mamlaka (Jordan) channel, the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, said that among the Russian occupiers there are fears about the breakthrough of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

"There are increasing signs that Ukrainian troops have broken through the first line of Russian defense on part of the southern front line in the Zaporozhye region and are expanding the wedge in the direction of the strategically important city of Tokmok," Milli said.


Russian sources claiming that US forcing Ukraine to recapture Melitopol City.

 

[Bogeyman]

U.S., Ukraine Clash Over Counteroffensive Strategy​

U.S. and Ukrainian officials have been engaged in an intense behind-the-scenes debate for weeks over the strategy and tactics for reviving Kyiv’s slow-moving counteroffensive.

American military officials have been urging the Ukrainians to return to the combined arms training they received at allied bases in Europe by concentrating their forces to try to bust through Russia defenses and push to the Sea of Azov.
Kyiv has made some adjustments in recent weeks, but the two sides are still at odds about how to turn the tables on the Russians in the limited time they have before winter sets in.
“You don’t understand the nature of this conflict,” Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, the commander of the Ukrainian armed forces, responded in one interaction with the Americans, a U.S. official recounted. “This is not counterinsurgency. This is Kursk,” the commander added, referring to the major World War II battle between Germany and the Soviet Union.
A spokesman for the Ukrainian commander didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The American advice is based on the calculation that the surge of equipment the U.S. has funneled to Ukraine—more than $43 billion in weaponry has been committed over the years—is enough for this offensive and is unlikely to be repeated at anywhere near the same level in 2024.

“We built up this mountain of steel for the counteroffensive. We can’t do that again,” one former U.S. official said. “It doesn’t exist.”

It isn’t too late for Ukraine to make gains, according to U.S. officials.

Ukrainian commanders also say that time hasn’t yet run out on their counteroffensive, and Zaluzhny has told U.S. officials his forces are on the cusp of a breakthrough.

Yet deep divisions over the strategy linger. The U.S. for the past several weeks has urged the Ukrainians to mass their forces and concentrate in an area north of Tokmak in the south to push through the first line of Russian defenses, generally acknowledged as the toughest line to break.

While there are differing views within the U.S. government, one official said that Washington has conveyed “serious frustration” with Ukraine’s strategy, particularly President Volodymyr Zelensky’s focus on Bakhmut, which some Ukrainian officers see as useful to build morale and create a buffer zone in the east.

After U.S. officials cautioned against dissipating their efforts, the Ukrainians adjusted their strategy and went on the defensive in the eastern part of Zaporizhzhia. That change has enabled the Ukrainians to conserve their forces for the main attack elsewhere and limit their expenditure of artillery.

But U.S. officials say the Ukrainians are still spread too thin for a concentrated push south with numerous brigades deployed in the east and are still not combining the use of artillery, mechanized units and mine-clearing efforts.

Holding casualties to a minimum is needed to preserve their longer-term fighting potential, the Ukrainians say. But U.S. officials say the Ukrainians’ small-unit attacks on narrow fronts slow the offensive and give the Russians more opportunity to respond, including with mines that are dispensed through artillery strikes and units armed with rocket-propelled grenades.

The current state of play has sparked worries that Ukraine’s fight against Russia might be entering a stalemate, a contention President Biden’s national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, has denied.

“No, we do not assess that the conflict is a stalemate,” Sullivan told reporters Tuesday. The battlefield, he said, is changing every day.

At the heart of the debate between Washington and Kyiv is the U.S.-provided combined arms training the Ukrainians have received in recent months that was intended to prepare them for their offensive in the south.

The U.S. and its partners have trained more than 70,000 Ukrainian soldiers at more than 40 training areas. But the crux of the U.S. combined arms training in Germany was on 14 motorized-infantry, mechanized and national-guard battalions—some 8,000 troops—who were to push through Russia’s lines or secure terrain.

The 12-week training program for those battalions included instruction on using their artillery, mechanized units and infantry together. It culminated in a weeklong battalion-level exercise with Ukrainian forces squared off against a mock adversary played by U.S. forces.

Two additional battalions, one national guard and one armored, are also undergoing training. The latter is equipped with 31 Abrams tanks and will be deployed in the fall along with armored vehicles to breach minefields and combat engineering equipment, said Col. Martin O’Donnell, a U.S. Army spokesman in Europe.

The training is intended to enable Ukrainian forces to break through their foe’s defenses and maneuver in the Russians’ rear area, but without the advantages the U.S. military has long enjoyed, especially air power.

Ukraine has only a small air force, and the delivery of American-made F-16s isn’t expected until mid to late 2024. While U.S. officials say that simulations indicated that the Ukrainians could succeed anyway, some in the Pentagon acknowledge the challenge.

Christine Wormuth, the U.S. Army secretary, said recently that the U.S. military would find this sort of fighting challenging, particularly if it didn’t have air superiority and the adversary had time to prepare its defenses. “Our soldiers have years to practice this, and the Ukrainians had several weeks to work on this,” she said.

Some former officials say that the Pentagon’s frustration with the pace of the Ukrainian attack is misplaced.


“When America fights with combined arms, it fights with battlefield air superiority,” said Philip Breedlove, a retired U.S. Air Force general who served as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s top military commander from 2013 to 2016.

“Ukraine doesn’t have that. Nor have we given Ukraine long-range precise artillery,” he added. “So when there is all this talk that they are failing with combined arms, we need to look in the mirror.”

Some Ukrainian soldiers who have been fighting from the beginning of the war expressed frustration that the tanks and armored vehicles had been given to newly formed units that include soldiers with little or no combat experience. The share of Ukrainian soldiers in the U.S.-trained battalions who have previous combat experience varies from about 50% to 70%, U.S. officials say.

Others say the reality of fighting on first contact with the enemy shocked them. One soldier from the 47th Brigade recounted an assault on a Russian trench, the company’s first infantry engagement in real war, which was against one of the best-fortified lines that Russia has in all of Ukraine.

“However tough exercises were, it’s much harder” in reality, the soldier said.

Defending its approach, Kyiv argues that its slow offensive is still playing out on the ground. On Tuesday, Ukrainian forces retook Robotyne, a village on the road south that lies just north of Russia’s main defensive line.

The assault on the village was led by a unit that has honed its tactics since the start of the war, first targeting enemy fortifications using artillery directed by drones, then sending in assault teams on foot.

“It’s a small victory,” Maj. Yuriy Harkaviy, the unit’s commander, wrote in a message. “Larger ones are ahead. My goal is the Azov.”

U.S., Ukraine Clash Over Counteroffensive Strategy

Kyiv’s forces can still break through Russia defenses, but time is running out, Washington officials say.

www.wsj.com

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1695410917175926900

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1695413875192070620

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1695386165677834601

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1695410917175926900

This is bad. Ukraine has lost a good deal of veteran pilot, now they're losing veteran pilot+ future F-16 candidate who speaks good English.

I hope Karaya is safe.

 

[UkroTurk]

Turkish Foreign Minister met with the leader of the Crimean Tatars

Hakan Fidan during his first official visit to Ukraine met with the leader of the Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Cemiloğlu.