Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[mehmed beg]

"alleged espionage"
Come on, Germany is full of russian spies since the cold war and they cant do ANYTHING about that. Not with "leaders" like Schroeder, Merkel or Scholz. Putin started his career in Germany, russia has money and STASI archives to corrupt German politicians and they are using it.
I dont get it, Germany has some inferiority complex toward Russia since WWII

Germany, slowly but surely starts to look like a failed state.

 

[mehmed beg]

man some users here are shameless, even if they know that most of Ukraine's top officials share the same religious background as a certain country bombing Palestinians and getting support from that country for their country. In Zelensky's own words Ukraine will turn into a 2nd Israel. its like some users here would not care if a nuke dropped on their head as long as the radioactive cloud goes to Russia I swear not all but most users here need a sanity check. There is not even one post here that display any kind of intelligence of how Ukraine will win the war, so I guess everyone here probably already knows Russia will win since all this thread cares about are possible dubious claims of destroyed Russian equipment which was either from months ago or no visual evidence at all, or what Ukraine will receive which as usual gets destroyed later.

Macron talking about NATO troops in Ukraine and Llyod Austin saying war with Russia will happen if Ukraine loses shows even, they dont believe in Ukraine's own victory despite supplying them with what they got and funding. Getting involved later in the war will make Europe and the U.S. look like assholes to the world for not helping Ukraine earlier when 100s of 1000s of them were dying but I guess they don't care just like whats happening in Gaza.

Stoltenberg also said the F-16s will be hosted in countries outside of Ukraine by Ukrainians because even they know that Ukraine's runways would be bombed which proves my point again to multiple users here that they do have the strike capabilities to target runways than just having to use SAMs or air to air missiles against F-16s

February 2024 set a record for the number of published strikes with Lancet loitering munitions. A total of 163 new strikes were published. Unlike the Ukrainians, Russians like to show visual proof.
https://lostarmour.info/tags/lancet This is also not counting the air strikes, laser guided krasnopol shots, missile strikes, etc
So Relic how many armored vehicles, tanks, howitzers, MLRS, systems or SAMs Ukraine will be receiving now since you keep a track of this stuff? I am sure after you see the lostarmour webpage you will find it pointless to care what Ukraine is getting supplied with anymore.

What is so shameless for you? You killed 10s of thousands of Muslims in Syria, thousands died for you in Ukraine, thousands expelled from Crimea , the ambition to reconqure Central Asia and Gaza thing is just what doctor ordered for you? About which shamelesness are you talking about?
What do you think? That I am a common " colonised" guy to play highly trained seal for you?
All of your history, you just wanted to play together with " them" , thinking that you can screw " them" in " them" own game.
I pity those people.
Please spare me of your " moral and himanist" talk, we know each other too well for that kind of shit

 

[blackjack]

What is so shameless for you? You killed 10s of thousands of Muslims in Syria, thousands died for you in Ukraine, thousands expelled from Crimea , the ambition to reconqure Central Asia and Gaza thing is just what doctor ordered for you? About which shamelesness are you talking about?
What do you think? That I am a common " colonised" guy to play highly trained seal for you?
All of your history, you just wanted to play together with " them" , thinking that you can screw " them" in " them" own game.
I pity those people.
Please spare me of your " moral and himanist" talk, we know each other too well for that kind of shit

are you seriously praising ISIS as the good guys the Russians were killing?

 

[blackjack]

Wish some users here were like Julian to finally see the truth.

 

[Ecderha]

Another epic fail ruzzian attack. It is expected from putin soldiers.
Ukraine Bradley IFV of the 47th Brigade as well as FPV drones attack and destroy ruzzian assault group on the Avdiivka front.

ruzzians send two BTR-80 junks ahead with soldiers they were destroyed.
Then third BTR-82 with soldiers came to the same spot. Just make you wonder what ruzzian command is doing.
Third BTR-82 with solider were decimated as soon they arrived

Spoiler: spoiler

video:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763977160543334870

after math

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763917622981099808

 

[Ecderha]

Another place another attack ruzzian assault group on the Avdiivka front.
The same Ukraine group Bradley IFV of the 47th Brigade.

Spoiler: spolier

As expected Epic fail of putin soldiers, they were decimated

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763620741491167462

 

[Ecderha]

Europe and NATO start a plan to apply following.
What Macron said about sending troops may look like this.
Helping the Ukrainian army protect the borders of Belarus and Transnistria, it does not have direct contact with putin.
Then, the Ukrainian army can devote all its forces to deal with putin.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763917788912263552

 

[blackjack]

 

[mehmed beg]

I dont even know who these people are but if you're a mindless drone to western media than I can't help you. You might as well walk around with a shirt in public that says, "I support the current thing."

I can say , I don't know what isis are, if you can why not me?
I can say you are under RT influence, if you say that I am under Western influence, can't I? It is quo pro quo, that's what happens when you answer with the answer which in reality is not an answer. So that's the reason that, previously I used the term " circular argument " .

 

[blackjack]

I can say , I don't know what isis are, if you can why not me?
I can say you are under RT influence, if you say that I am under Western influence, can't I? It is quo pro quo, that's what happens when you answer with the answer which in reality is not an answer. So that's the reason that, previously I used the term " circular argument " .

what?

 

[mehmed beg]

What? That's exactly what I can say, can't I? You have never heard for Milosevic , I have never heard for ISIS , what is so hard to understand with that?

what?

 

[Gary]

I dont get it, Germany has some inferiority complex toward Russia since WWII

LOL, stop with the complaint. After WW2 the victorious allies make sure they strip German militarism from German society, same as Japan. Instead they crafted the society into liberals, businessmen and car sellers.

Now fast forward 75+ years later the same people are complaining the Germans lack the zeal to confront Russia. Yes, Germany would likely not want to confront Russia. In fact, I believe the German business lobby hoped that the war is over as soon as possible so that they could do business as usual.

 

[Gary]

I watched the series Deutschland 83 Seasons 1,2 and 3. If their portrayal of German liberal society during the Cold War is correct. Then, I have no doubt that Germany will lack the zeal even more so in the 21st century, especially after the era of peace dividend and unchecked liberalism.

Modern Germany is basically just a more degenerate 21st-century version of Germany portrayed in Babylon Berlin (another German drama). Full of decadence and a general loss of national purpose from its citizens. Bismarck would roll in its grave to see what has become of Germany

 

[Gary]

New A-50U entered service with the VKS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1763889568799977756

 

[GoatsMilk]

What is so shameless for you? You killed 10s of thousands of Muslims in Syria, thousands died for you in Ukraine, thousands expelled from Crimea , the ambition to reconqure Central Asia and Gaza thing is just what doctor ordered for you? About which shamelesness are you talking about?
What do you think? That I am a common " colonised" guy to play highly trained seal for you?
All of your history, you just wanted to play together with " them" , thinking that you can screw " them" in " them" own game.
I pity those people.
Please spare me of your " moral and himanist" talk, we know each other too well for that kind of shit

In my personal life the people I avoid like the plague are the ones who feel no shame. The worst people on earth are the shameless people. In geopolitics the most dangerous and evil states on earth have always been the ones that behave shamelessly and worse yet that shameless behaviour is accepted by its people.

 

[blackjack]

The sad and funny part is I know a bunch users here well enough that they will post this following information without thinking twice about its own credibility.

Ukraine celebrates Russia losing "5,000 tanks" in war

"Ukrainian power is stronger than occupiers' steel!" Kyiv's Defense Ministry said.

www.newsweek.com

"Ukraine Celebrates Russia Losing '5,000 Tanks' in War
Published Oct 20, 2023 at 9:09 AM EDT

Kyiv officials on Friday celebrated Russia losing more than 5,000 tanks since Russian President Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

"5000+ Russian tanks were destroyed during the full-scale invasion. Ukrainian power is stronger than occupiers' steel!" Ukraine's Defense Ministry said Friday in a post on social media, published shortly after Kyiv's military released its daily update on Russian losses in the war.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on October 20 said its forces destroyed 55 tanks in a single day, bringing the total number of tank losses in the war to 5,047."

31,000 ukrainians only died in the war which is why they don't have a manpower shortage and why some european leaders suggest boots on the ground. a flaming haystack as visual proof of 14 shot down Su-34s and destroyed more russian tanks than what the russians have in service. WTF are these articles made for laughs or meant to be taken seriously?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

The sad and funny part is I know a bunch users here well enough that they will post this following information without thinking twice about its own credibility.

Ukraine celebrates Russia losing "5,000 tanks" in war

"Ukrainian power is stronger than occupiers' steel!" Kyiv's Defense Ministry said.

www.newsweek.com

"Ukraine Celebrates Russia Losing '5,000 Tanks' in War
Published Oct 20, 2023 at 9:09 AM EDT

Kyiv officials on Friday celebrated Russia losing more than 5,000 tanks since Russian President Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

"5000+ Russian tanks were destroyed during the full-scale invasion. Ukrainian power is stronger than occupiers' steel!" Ukraine's Defense Ministry said Friday in a post on social media, published shortly after Kyiv's military released its daily update on Russian losses in the war.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on October 20 said its forces destroyed 55 tanks in a single day, bringing the total number of tank losses in the war to 5,047."

31,000 ukrainians only died in the war which is why they don't have a manpower shortage and why some european leaders suggest boots on the ground. a flaming haystack as visual proof of 14 shot down Su-34s and destroyed more russian tanks than what the russians have in service. WTF are these articles made for laughs or meant to be taken seriously?

So how many would you say is the correct number? 3000? 2000?
You think that's any better?

 

[blackjack]

So how many would you say is the correct number? 3000? 2000?
You think that's any better?

I would be wasting my breath because those numbers will come from a Russian source(lost armour i think only tracks destroyed ukrainian equipment) and the entire forum at this point is Russia=bad, Ukraine=good. But what the Ukrainians have statistically claimed is so outlandish that their only supporting argument is that they and the Russians have the capabilities of being necromancers that bring back equipment and soldiers back to life.

 

[Gary]

If Ukraine didn't mobilize now, their old 43 years old on average age soldiers will collapse sooner or later due to general fatigue and attrition. But if Ukraine mobilize its small cohort of 20-25 year olds, the country's future will be wiped out in a very short time

In short : Win or Lose, Ukraine is doomed anyway. I highly recommend this video.

 

[Gary]

Driving through the streets of Mariupol. The city is surprisingly alive with active re-construction ongoing, this is not what a Potemkin village looks like