Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[GoatsMilk]

It doesnt have to but it will probably be dragged into it.
See,Ukraine finally found out what the real reason was for the so called ''help'' to defeat the Russians.
Realisticly Ukraine couldnt and never can defeat Russia with the weapons it got from the West,they knew it the US knew it,everbody knew it.
If you have to ask if you can use the weapons to attack Russia in Russia wtf kinda help is that?
Another indication they are afraid of Russia while Russia never intends to go further then Ukraine.
Europe has become a chickenshit entity,woke this green energy that peace this and sanctions that blah blah blah.
I have said this before and saying this again,sanction wont do shit to Russia,you keep saying that the sanctions hurt Russia,yes they did to some extent but it cant cripple Russia.
Russian people can live with just bread and water for a looong time,just Ukrainians and Turks can,Europe cant which is why they think Russia would give up because of these sanction,its pipe dream.
Europe needs to wake up to reality.
In geopolitics Europe is nothing.

From an american perspective this has been excellent business. Got Ukrainians and Russians to destroy each other, expanded NATO. Got EU committed against Russia, made them send their russian military junk to ukraine and replace it with american hardware. Now they (americans) get to stir the pot and sit back. Ukraine will be decided in the direction that the americans decide it to go. They want Ukraine to win, a few hundred modern fighter jets will get sent over night. They get the Isreal treatment and the war can end very quickly, but that's not good for american business.

I suspect what the Americans may do is create a kind of deal that forces a new war down the line in which the americans can repeat what they have done, except this time the rewards for them will be even bigger. So maybe some kind of deal, ceasefire. Both sides get to rebuild their armies for a good few years and then war starts over again.

Because any joker can tell that if a deal is made and the russians get to annex Ukrainian land, then you basically told them that the war was worth it and thus why shouldn't another war be worth it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

absolute vultures.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891501511877820452

 

[Relic]

Germany announced the delivery of another significant military aid package to Ukraine today. Per usual, Germany doesn't update their deliveries until they've happened. The most recent one included the following:

- 4 Zuzana 2 155mm Howitzers
- 2 WISENT-1 Mine Clearing Tanks
- 56 MRAPS
- 18 Border Protection Vehicles
- IRIS-T SLM Air Defense Missiles
- IRIS-T SLS Air Defense Missiles
- 50,000 155mm Artillery Shells
- 2000 122mm Artillery Shells
- 282,000 Rounds of AA Ammo
- 241,000 Rounds of Gepard AA Ammo
- 105mm Leopard 1 Ammo
- 20mm Marder IFV Ammo
- 74,000 40mm Round of Ammo
- 100 MG5 Machine Guns
- 2,915 HK 416 Assault Rifles
- 900 MK 556 Assault Rifles
- 64 HLR 338 Sniper Rifles
- 200 CR 308 Rifles
- 73 AK-47 Assault Rifles
- 300 HF-1 Strike Drones
- 51 Vector Recon Drones
- 245 Heidrun Recon Drones
- 29 Songbird Recon Drones
- 14 Hornet XR Recon Drones
- 16 Mine Ploughs
- 645 Laser Range Finders
- 28,800 Wool Blankets
- 766 Sleeping Bags
- 37,200 Tourniquets

Military support for Ukraine | Federal Government

War in Ukraine: This list provides an overview of Germany’s lethal and non-lethal military support for Ukraine.

www.bundesregierung.de

 

[Soldier30]

A Russian serviceman witnessed a close explosion of a cluster munition in Ukraine. It is believed to have been an American 155mm M864 DPICM cluster artillery shell, used by the Ukrainian army in M777 howitzers. The M864 shell contains 48 M42 submunitions weighing 208 grams and 24 M46 submunitions weighing 213 grams. When the M864 shell explodes, it produces up to 300 fragments with a lethal radius of up to 6 meters.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891763342706082251

 

[Relic]

Multiple reports are surfacing that the European Union is planning to announce a new $733 Billion usd comprehensive, joint spending package, aimed at deterring Russian aggression towards Europe at a time when U.S. partnership on defense in Europe seems to be falling off.

As a part of the package a new, $5.2 Billion usd component will be spent directly on Ukraine's defense and is aimed at procuring the following items which will be produced in the EU...

- 1.5 million 155mm, 152mm and 122 mm artillery shells.

- Additional air defense systems including SAMP/T and IRIS-T.

- Long range, precision strike missiles.

- A variety of long and medium range attack and recon drones.

- Equipment to rearm existing Ukrainian brigades and newly formed brigades.

Brussels Considers Additional €5 Billion Defense Boost for Ukraine

The EU is poised to review a draft for an additional €5 billion in military aid to Ukraine, enhancing support amid ongoing security challenges.

united24media.com

 

[Soldier30]

Footage of an attack by Russian VT-40 FPV drones, controlled via fiber optic cable, on a Ukrainian Leopard 1A5 tank. The video was filmed in the Kursk region of Russia, near the village of Novosergeevka. The Leopard 1A5 tank was created in Germany in 1987, it is a modernization of the first Leopard-1 tank. The Leopard 1A5 tank is maneuverable, it weighs 42.2 tons. But it has thin armor, in Germany it was decommissioned in 2010. The Leopard 1A5 tank was attacked by two Russian FPV drones.

 

[Oublious]

4 points that they have agreed, this was a wasted agreement. I am not going to write it, This was a start nothing more. What is not acceptable is ther is no Ukraine talking, this means Americans are going to sell it ouy.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891868202059063460

Had the US and EU not been trying to bury Turkiye in every direction she pursued her security interests, Turkiye could have done a lot more for Ukraine. But instead it forced Turkiye to take a very cautious approach with Russia.

 

[Oublious]

According to Fox news, 3 steps.

1 ceasefire
2 elections
3 peace agreement

lol

 

[contricusc]

Multiple reports are surfacing that the European Union is planning to announce a new $733 Billion usd comprehensive, joint spending package, aimed at deterring Russian aggression towards Europe at a time when U.S. partnership on defense in Europe seems to be falling off.

This would be great. Finally a significant amount of money is being discussed at European level. The EU needs to treat its defense much more serious than it did Covid, and should be willing to spend more on defense than what it did in combating the pandemic.

If Europe becomes serious with investing in its defense, Russia will stand no chance in the long term.

 

[Relic]

Update on my post earlier today. The EU military aid package for Ukraine will actually be worth a minimum of $6.2 Billion usd and might wind up being worth more than $10.5 billion usd, depending on what can be sourced from existing inventories and / or contracted in short order for quick delivery. Europe appears to be commited to doing what they can to fill potential gaps in military aid left by the possible upcoming decisions by the Trump Administration.

EU targets €6B Ukraine military aid package

Countries aim to shore up Kyiv’s strategic position amid ongoing talks between Russia and the United States.

www.politico.eu

 

[Lool]

While I absolutely hate Trump and the US's vulture-like mentality, I have to agree with him on his recent statements

Trump hismelf stated: "why did Zelensky start this war". Another clear sign that Zelensky and his western a**hole friends were intentionally pissing Russia off

Zelensky did have 3 years to make a deal, with the Istanbul deal proposed by Erdogan, could have presumably saved Zelensky's ass as well as most of the territory Russia controlled after the war but the filthy zionists, Boris Jhonson and Victoria Nulland had another say and obviously the master-strategist and jewish clown, Zelensky!

Now with Russia advancing even more than ever and Ukraine having personnel shortages, expect hard concessions from the Ukrainian side

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891966779741643105

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892091592984465452

Whats even funnier is that he literally sold Ukraine out in a second

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891963211080990764

Even France gave Ukraine the middle finger,loooool

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891931054493094225

 

[Iskander]

While I absolutely hate Trump and the US's vulture-like mentality, I have to agree with him on his recent statements

Trump hismelf stated: "why did Zelensky start this war". Another clear sign that Zelensky and his western a**hole friends were intentionally pissing Russia off

Zelensky did have 3 years to make a deal, with the Istanbul deal proposed by Erdogan, could have presumably saved Zelensky's ass as well as most of the territory Russia controlled after the war but the filthy zionists, Boris Jhonson and Victoria Nulland had another say and obviously the master-strategist and jewish clown, Zelensky!

Now with Russia advancing even more than ever and Ukraine having personnel shortages, expect hard concessions from the Ukrainian side

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891966779741643105

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1892091592984465452

Whats even funnier is that he literally sold Ukraine out in a second

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891963211080990764

Even France gave Ukraine the middle finger,loooool

The US, the UK, France... These countries are geographically distant from Ukraine and Russia. Türkiye is a neighbor of these two warring countries.
Erdoğan probably has a different perspective on this.
This seems to be exactly what Erdoğan meant by holding an umbrella over Zelensky's head.

 

[blackjack]

Well, there you have it, or that's how it looks if Europe wanted to fight Russia without the US.

Starmer: I am going to send troops to Ukraine, who is with me.

Poland, Germany and France: Lol, you are on your own.

So not only is it painfully obvious that Ukraine is going to lose the war because of depleted manpower but not even Europe except the UK is willing to send their military to assist Ukraine. Russia didn't even have to do anything while Starmer helped Russia embarrass Europe on what an EU army can do without the US if they were to fight along Ukraine.

Other news.

Lavrov is laughing Macron. https://files.catbox.moe/rspx59.mp4

Russian bank cards.

 

[Sanchez]

This seems to be exactly what Erdoğan meant by holding an umbrella over Zelensky's head.

Of course people always pick at things and search meanings. But it's also that Erdoğan is a tall man, and it's raining. He usually holds his own umbrella or it's held by one of his guards.

Interesting times ahead, nonetheless. Looks like Zelensky cancelled his Saudi trip and will head back to Kyiv directly.

 

[mehmed beg]

I truly do not understand, so called Islamists shilling for The Russians . I don't understand why the hate for Ukraine has become totally personal for them?
I don't understand how so called Muslims support that both Trump and Putin falling over eachother to prop India???
I don't understand how people don't see that after Ukraine, Muslims of Balkan, Caucasus, Central Asia and ultimately Turkey are in the menu???
I truly don't understand how these people ignore history and mentality and etc about Russians ?
I don't understand so called secularists here, how in the light of these events they cry about F35?
Truly the most basic logic.
It seems to me whatever people may or may not believe, they know nothing about it.
Wella Hawle Wella Quwete

 

[Iskander]

Of course people always pick at things and search meanings. But it's also that Erdoğan is a tall man, and it's raining. He usually holds his own umbrella or it's held by one of his guards.

Interesting times ahead, nonetheless. Looks like Zelensky cancelled his Saudi trip and will head back to Kyiv directly.

I usually follow protocol events closely. I like them. Apparently, some were cancelled because of the rain. But where Erdogan is standing with Zelensky, there is no rain. They are standing under a canopy. In my opinion, Erdogan is demonstrating his support for Ukraine to the interested parties. And his statements during the press conference were encouraging for Zelensky. Headlines like "Turkish aegis for Ukraine!" have already appeared in the Ukrainian media.

 

[FiReFTW]

The rat aka beggar Zelensky is really annoying, he is acting all tough and like he is some important figure when he really is an insignificant little bug. It's about time someone put him in his place.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I truly do not understand, so called Islamists shilling for The Russians . I don't understand why the hate for Ukraine has become totally personal for them?
I don't understand how so called Muslims support that both Trump and Putin falling over eachother to prop India???
I don't understand how people don't see that after Ukraine, Muslims of Balkan, Caucasus, Central Asia and ultimately Turkey are in the menu???
I truly don't understand how these people ignore history and mentality and etc about Russians ?
I don't understand so called secularists here, how in the light of these events they cry about F35?
Truly the most basic logic.
It seems to me whatever people may or may not believe, they know nothing about it.
Wella Hawle Wella Quwete

We always got to be careful when dealing with the US/UK axis. They always play good cop/bad cop. So as Trumps talks like he's going to throw Ukraine under the bus, its predictable that the UK plays good cop and talks about sending 10K troops.

In the context of money, the US, UK, Russia historically up until modern times have been the largest plunderers on earth. Ukraine has incredible natural resources. Trump appearing to sell his arse to Russia, while their governments made ultimatums for 500billion worth of Ukraine's natural resources is potentially a bargaining tactic. Trying to pressure the Ukrainians to give more of their natural wealth away to the Americans. If they scare the Ukrainians that they could lift support, it will force them to accept their outlandish demands.

We must also understand that the americans initially enticed the Russians to invade Ukraine. They were saying things like were not going to go to war for Ukraine, threatening Turks not to sell Ukraine weapons etc. But the moment Russia took the bait, money and weapons poured in. But the only weapons that poured in were the ones that can continue the meat grinder going on. Also worth keeping in mind as was seen in Syria and Libya, In Syria the Americans and Russians were co-ordinating together against the Turks. In Libya the French and the Russians were doing the same against the Turks. So Russians probably thought the relationship is quite good with the major western powers, so much so that they could ally with them against a NATO ally.

There is also another reality about the anglo-saxon world, they have for much of the last 200 years used the Russians as a balancing act. Used them against Germany, Used them against the Turkic/Muslim Axis, Used against the Chinese and the Japanese. They will prop them up as they have done in both world wars as a counter weight against the non-white power axis, the Turks, Chinese, Japanese etc.