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Interesting development on something I originally mentioned over a year ago. Switzerland 🇨🇭 has officially sold 71 Leopard 1A5 MBTs to Germany 🇩🇪, under the condition that they are not sent to Ukraine via Germany. This fleet of Leopard 1s is located in Italy and owned by Swiss company Ruag.

Germany has been working on a plan with Greece 🇬🇷 for nearly a year. Essentially, Greece will send 71 of it's Leopard 1s to Ukraine and in return, Germany will significantly upgrade the Swiss Leopard 1s and send them Greece.

All parties win here. Switzerland gets compensated above market value for tanks being held in storage. Greece gets 71 upgraded Leopard 1s, essentially for free. Ukraine gets 71 former Greek Leopard 1s, allowing them to reinforce 2+ tanks battalions.

No timelines have been noted for the delivery of any of the MBTs involved in this scenario.

 
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Europe should avoid ‘angry divorce’ with US, defense chief warns​


Europe needs to prepare for a reduction in the U.S. presence on the continent and spend more to arm itself, help Ukraine and fend off Russia, Defense Commissioner Andrius Kubilius said Wednesday.
"It is not only possible, but almost unavoidable that we shall need to stand on our own two feet in defense matters in Europe, because Americans will more and more withdraw from Europe," he said in his keynote speech at the Charlemagne Prize Forum on Europe.
Kubilius explained that while the U.S. will not abandon NATO, Washington is shifting its attention to the Indo-Pacific region due to China’s growing military threat.

To “avoid an emotional, angry divorce,” Kubilius said, Europeans must change their mindset: “Less complaining that we are being betrayed, and more rational preparation for a transatlantic division of responsibilities.”
Kubilius said that given the prospect of a U.S. drawdown, the war in Ukraine, and intelligence reports indicating that Russian President Vladimir Putin is becoming increasingly aggressive, Europe is now facing "the perfect storm," which could lead to a deep crisis.

"In the case of Russian aggression against a NATO or EU member state, we will face a battle-tested Russian army, with millions of drones,'" he said. "Are we ready for that? I doubt it."

But rather than panic, the EU should prepare. “As it’s often said: Never waste a good crisis to take bold decisions and reforms,” the commissioner said.

He wants EU members to make up for the "huge hole" in defense preparedness.
"Material preparedness means a radical increase in development and procurement of new weapons. And it means a ramp-up of industrial production on the European continent. For that we need enough financial resources," Kubilius said.

He said that at its summit next month in The Hague, NATO “will likely ask alliance members to raise their military capability targets by 30 percent. But allies are already 30 percent behind in delivering on existing capability targets.”
To achieve the new target, Europe must ramp up industrial production and strengthen "strategic enablers," such as space intelligence, command and control centers, and heavy airlift capabilities — areas where the continent is heavily dependent on the U.S.

“Definitely, it will cost a lot of money,” Kubilius warned, adding that the International Institute for Strategic Studies estimates it could cost up to $1 trillion for European allies to replace the current U.S. contribution to NATO.

While boosting their own defense, EU countries must also keep sending weapons and aid to Ukraine.

Both of those aims can be financed through the newly approved €150 billion Security Action for Europe (SAFE) loans-for-weapons instrument. “It can become a breakthrough in our support to Ukraine,” he said.

Given Kyiv's battle-tested army and the growing danger of Russian aggression, Kubilius said Ukraine, along with the United Kingdom, should be an integral part of a new European security architecture.

"Is peace in Ukraine and is victory for Ukraine possible after American withdrawal?” he asked. "My answer is yes! It is possible."

 

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Having drained Russia over the years, however, I think that the best chance for Ukraine to have a future is to keep fighting in the hope that Putin will carry on squandering resources until - eventually - he has to stop to avoid economic and financial disaster.
Just hoping things work out doesn’t sound like much of a plan. If Russia’s economy crashes, they might just turn to China for help anyway.
 

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Just hoping things work out doesn’t sound like much of a plan. If Russia’s economy crashes, they might just turn to China for help anyway.
Why would China want to help Russia? A weak Russia gives China

- cheap energy
- increased consumer good exports
- a large share of the Russian car market
etc

It is not really a case of hoping things work out. All the data and stats I see indicate the non-MIC part of the Russian economy is deteriorating further and further. Can you cite any data economically or financially to suggest that Russia is not heading for economic and financial disaster if it continues on its current path (fighting a war it cannot afford)?

The banks have been forced to make reckless loans to arms producers by the government, companies on the civil side of the economy are drowning in debt because it has become so expensive to service debt - so reducing profits and tax to fund the government, crude prices are set to fall further, meaning the government will have even less funds, inflation does not reduce even after 6 months of record interest rates etc etc etc.
 
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It would be a good thing for all its neighbors, as they could finally live in peace without the fear of being invaded.

It would be a good thing for all the countries where Russia is currently supporting rogue regimes with mercenaries, money, technology and weapons.

It would be a very good thing for the world in general, as Russia is almost always on the wrong side of every conflict.

It would be a good thing for all the people who have suffered at the hand of the evil Soviet Union and communism.
Well, I totaly disagree with you on your every word. When did Russia or Soviet Union was or were on the wronge side
 

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Disagree on that

Ok, then I will elaborate a little. The Soviet Union has been the spreader of communism throughout the world, which is the ideology that brought the most poverty and most deaths in the XX century.

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Kim dinasty in North Korea are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to atrocities commited because of communism. Stalin was the leader of the Soviet Union, while all the others were enabled by the Soviet Union.

Even today, the closest friends of Russia are countries where brutal dictatorships keep their people in poverty and oppression, such as North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela or Iran.

The Soviet Union and Russia have always supported the worst scum all over the world.
 

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Footage of a Russian, presumably Iskander-M ballistic missile striking Ukrainian long-range kamikaze UAV launch sites. The video was filmed near the airfield of the city of Chuguev, Kharkov region of Ukraine.
Judging by the video, the Iskander-M missile hit the center of the Ukrainian UAV launch sites.

 

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They carried out the largest UAV-FPV operation in the history of Ukraine. The Olenya airbase in Murmansk (left) and the Belaya airbase in Irkutsk were hit. Many Tu-95, Tu-22, An-26 and A-50 aircraft were targeted.

Dyagilevo airbase in Ryazan oblast was also reportedly targeted. This base also hosts strategic bombers. The GUR may have carried out the largest intelligence and drone operation in history.


 

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This is Irkutsk region, near the Belaya airbase. Ukrainian intelligence carries an FPV-kamikaze drone in a vehicle, which in turn sends the drones to the Belaya airbase. The driver was detained.

I think the uncle who spoke was waiting for the trucks. "The truck reached the point - they said they would meet us, but drones flew out of the truck."

 

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According to Ukrainian sources, the bases and the number of aircraft shot down in the two strikes were as follows

Belaya base:
  • 7 Tu-160;
  • 6 Tu-95MS;
  • 2 Il-78M;
  • 6 An-26;
  • 2 An-12;
  • 39 Tu-22M3;
  • 30 MiG-31.

Olenya base:
  • 11 Tu-95MS;
  • 5 An-12;
  • 40 Tu-22M3.
 

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