İbrahim Sünnetçi said he saw 8 VLS cell in Milgem corvette sold to Ukraine.
In addition, the Areas-2NC Electronic Taarruz system is also on board.
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I can count 8 + 8 , 16 cells.
İbrahim Sünnetçi said he saw 8 VLS cell in Milgem corvette sold to Ukraine.
In addition, the Areas-2NC Electronic Taarruz system is also on board.
We also want quad packed CAMM equal SAMs.I can count 8 + 8 , 16 cells.
It could be a render issue that two cells might look merged.
Correction note: And had a double check on the plans, the platform in fact looks too narrow and it should be 4. Doesn't make much sense for now. They could try 3-cell ExLS* on each side and get quadpacked CAMM instead = 24 missiles.
*Which we come to my earlier note, you buy it from whomever sells, not giving much possibilities for them to receive ExLS.
According to a report by Ibrahim Sunnetci, UGT-25000 was initially considered for Ukraine's Ada Class.
However, it is unclear whether Zorya has performed as they did in the small gas turbine negotiation, they might have lacked the necessary cooperation with STM thus STM didn't have enough data and time to evaluate UGT-25000; or STM has concluded the ukranian engine can not be modified without heavy modifications.
If i recall the initial plan for Ada class deal was 4 ships in 2 phases as 2 + 2, the latter 2 being 'modified' and wholely produced in Ukraine following the upgrade of a shipyard, little known about the 3rd phase, another 4 ship with high localization content (radars and electronics by Ukraine). Now Babcock is being dominant in Ukraine and UK providing loan for infastructure upgrade, i am even unsure about the 2nd hull of the series. It may stop at only one hull.
It could be a strategic choice from Western block to have Ukraine dependence them and not Turkey. Either way if we got what we needed from Ukraine then I don’t mind them settling with 1-2 Ada class.Seems pretty shortsighted to cancel additional orders of ADA especially the last two which would come with modification that would help Ukraine gain valuable know how and experience for future endeavors on their own.
But then again they wouldn't be the first ones to choose the short term solution just to regret it in the future.
Looks like the first two hulls of the class will be quite close to Turkish Ada-Class (RIM-116), to be honest their plans are exactly same as i have seen with no VLS space allocated, i don't know if those blocks of the hull will be changed later since their steel-cutting has not been commenced yet and they are prone to change.
If the assumption above is true, then the latter two will be made by combination of MICA + Oerlikon Miilenium Gun.
And other 4 will be made by Ukranian contribution as a joint project, similar to PN Milgem which IP rights are being transferred and probably span up to 2030 and will be entirely made in Ukraine. There are also rumors that they have been interested in Atmaca AShM and more Turkish components but couldn't get an agreement on certain matters.
Apart from this, Ukraine and Turkey are in talks for the rest of the hulls in the class. The remaining 1 or 3 (the decision is up to Ukranian navy whether they want 4 ada class, or +2 of the newer class) will be likely built in Turkey and equipped in Ukraine, as the first hull.The last part is still valid, STM is in talks for joint design or assisting Ukraine for their own design. It is unclear if they are interested in a scheme as appointed with Pakistan to acquire IP rights or directly step up to phase-III where they will work on their own design with assistance from STM and other Turkish firms.