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[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1606416949814362112

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1606166714718093313

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1606166714718093313

Reference to Ikari Gendo from Neon Genesis Evangelion

Neon Genesis Evangelion started airing in 1995, seems he is spend his youth by watching the show

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1606493627886469121

 

[RadenSudirman]

I'm calling it guys, China is a paper tiger and as I said before, what they do is copy the West without understanding what they're doing or for what purpose.

This 'Headquarter' is like that Cyber Polri dude who put on hacker theme video on command post monitors and pretend he is a cyberpolice. The PLA is the same sht, they only want to APPEAR strong from outside, but the inside is empty, hollow.

Like what is this???

-Monitors without purpose, some without computers at all
-Stupid cubicles where they can't even move there while doing nothing
-Digital signs borrowed from a clubhouse, and they don't bother to change the text
-Chief dude sitting on the only non-swivel chair with too large of a table
-Random map of Asia that cannot be used for anything meaningful, why not use the large monitors??
-Printers being put on random places and not in the computer cubicles?
-Useless Map monitors that can only be seen from one side

They don't know what they're doing! and this is the guys who are supposed to conquer Asia? I doubt that!

Heck Napoleon has a better functioning headquarter back in 1800, using only paper and ink!

 

[Lordimperator]

Like what is this???

Would you kind to share the sources?

 

[RadenSudirman]

Would you kind to share the sources?

牢记统帅嘱托 加快提高打赢能力 有效履行使命任务——习近平主席在视察军委联合作战指挥中心时的重要讲话在广大官兵中引发强烈反响

中共中央总书记、国家主席、中央军委主席习近平8日视察军委联合作战指挥中心时强调，全军要全部精力向打仗聚焦，全部工作向打仗用劲，加快提高打赢能力，有效履行新时代我军使命任务。广大官兵表示，一定牢记习近平主席嘱托，踔厉奋发、勇毅前行，奋力实现建军一百年奋斗目标。

www.qinshui.gov.cn

 

[Van Kravchenko]

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I'm calling it guys, China is a paper tiger and as I said before, what they do is copy the West without understanding what they're doing or for what purpose.

This 'Headquarter' is like that Cyber Polri dude who put on hacker theme video on command post monitors and pretend he is a cyberpolice. The PLA is the same sht, they only want to APPEAR strong from outside, but the inside is empty, hollow.

Like what is this???

-Monitors without purpose, some without computers at all
-Stupid cubicles where they can't even move there while doing nothing
-Digital signs borrowed from a clubhouse, and they don't bother to change the text
-Chief dude sitting on the only non-swivel chair with too large of a table
-Random map of Asia that cannot be used for anything meaningful, why not use the large monitors??
-Printers being put on random places and not in the computer cubicles?
-Useless Map monitors that can only be seen from one side

They don't know what they're doing! and this is the guys who are supposed to conquer Asia? I doubt that!

Heck Napoleon has a better functioning headquarter back in 1800, using only paper and ink!

They have Dong Feng and millions of infantry tho

 

[RadenSudirman]

They have Dong Feng and millions of infantry tho

Paper Dong Feng and paper infantry. So what if they have millions CCP minions? they gonna swim here? Russia also have "ballistic missiles", where are they now? So far Russian missiles attacks are useless and stupid, China hypothetical attack wouldn't be any better.

Face it, maybe they just simply suck, look scary but actually bark harder than they bite. Perhaps in the real war, they will only punch under their weight as in Sino-Vietnamese War, then call it a quit once they find difficulty.

 

[Lordimperator]

Paper Dong Feng and paper infantry. So what if they have millions CCP minions? they gonna swim here? Russia also have "ballistic missiles", where are they now? So far Russian missiles attacks are useless and stupid, China hypothetical attack wouldn't be any better.

Face it, maybe they just simply suck, look scary but actually bark harder than they bite. Perhaps in the real war, they will only punch under their weight as in Sino-Vietnamese War, then call it a quit once they find difficulty.

Well, then why they are importing Dong Feng ballistic missile?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Paper Dong Feng and paper infantry. So what if they have millions CCP minions? they gonna swim here? Russia also have "ballistic missiles", where are they now? So far Russian missiles attacks are useless and stupid, China hypothetical attack wouldn't be any better.

Face it, maybe they just simply suck, look scary but actually bark harder than they bite. Perhaps in the real war, they will only punch under their weight as in Sino-Vietnamese War, then call it a quit once they find difficulty.

Ship... Give us ship please ... !!

 

[Madokafc]

Tahun 1965,

Indonesia jelas mendapatkan komitmen politik dan juga bantuan teknik dari RRC untuk pengembangan program nuklir/atomic untuk persenjataan militernya. Di tahun itu BATAN mulai mengerjakan proses pengayaan uranium untuk tujuan militer. Disaat yang sama, Indonesia juga berhasil menegosiasikan penggunaan dana rampasan perang Jepang untuk kepentingan pengembangan sistem balistik misil Indonesia dimana Indonesia saat itu berhasil mendapatkan sejumlah roket Kappa dan juga dukungan teknis dari ilmuwan Jepang untuk mengembangkan proyek S, termasuk pengembangan fasilitas peluncuran roket di Pameungpeuk.

Dan di Bulan September, terjadi peristiwa G30S, dimana pemerintah Soekarno jatuh dan proyek bom atom termasuk Balistik misil Indonesia dibatalkan setelahnya.

Imho, Soekarno sebelumnya termasuk menentang penggunaan dan pengembangan program nuklir/bom atom, tapi perang dingin waktu itu mencapai puncaknya termasuk terjadinya krisis Kuba dan ketegangan di Eropa membuat Soekarno mengubah prinsipnya soal senjata nuklir.

Bulan Maret 1966, Nurtanio Dirjen LAPAN saat itu meninggal dunia karena kecelakaan maut pada pesawat modifikasi Aero yang ditumpanginya.

Gua pribadi gak percaya kalau ga ada skenario konspirasi yang terjadi waktu itu

 

[RadenSudirman]

Merry Christmas everyone, peace for all of you

In this time of joy and celebration ,
I say to you all: that I have forgiven all of you for all past disputes and hurtful words
If you may, forgive me also for every words that I've said that maybe hurtful towards you or make you feel wronged

May God gives us mercy, and that we shall have mercy for each other

Amen

 

[Madokafc]

 

[Umigami]

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Roket diameter sekecil itu bisa bawa warhead ?

 

[R4duga]

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aren't this equivalent to that philippines ferdinand marcos, superweapon anti-typhoon/storm rocket that can manipulate weather.

 

[RadenSudirman]

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It is common to find Indonesian who like to say they don't want Indonesia to be strong, with no strong military, no aircraft carrier, no atomic bomb, etc. They don't think Indonesia has to advance or take the lead against other countries.

I believe that to be the true naive outlook, they think if they act like Indonesia is a small, inferior, submissive country, it is considered a virtue. This poisonous ideology is probably cultivated by our feudalistic society where people are trained since childhood that they are weak, inferior, stupid, don't deserve anything, and should not dream high, as it would ruin the status quo.

If such defeatist mentality persists, we cannot grow and will always be at the mercy of others, not good.

Wild dreams are OK as long as it is achievable, it is OK to want ballistic missile, and it is OK to own nuclear weapon.

 

[JATOSINT]

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I'm calling it guys, China is a paper tiger and as I said before, what they do is copy the West without understanding what they're doing or for what purpose.

This 'Headquarter' is like that Cyber Polri dude who put on hacker theme video on command post monitors and pretend he is a cyberpolice. The PLA is the same sht, they only want to APPEAR strong from outside, but the inside is empty, hollow.

Like what is this???

-Monitors without purpose, some without computers at all
-Stupid cubicles where they can't even move there while doing nothing
-Digital signs borrowed from a clubhouse, and they don't bother to change the text
-Chief dude sitting on the only non-swivel chair with too large of a table
-Random map of Asia that cannot be used for anything meaningful, why not use the large monitors??
-Printers being put on random places and not in the computer cubicles?
-Useless Map monitors that can only be seen from one side

They don't know what they're doing! and this is the guys who are supposed to conquer Asia? I doubt that!

Heck Napoleon has a better functioning headquarter back in 1800, using only paper and ink!

IMO, I prefer comprehensive official documents/reports/statements, misalnya yang sering dipublish US (govt maupun swasta/think tank) untuk bantu memahami kemampuan cina instead of pictures/videos like this

And I think we can agree that US dan sekutu-sekutu nya gk ngeremehin modernisasi PLA dan diakui juga sebagai calon (or mungkin sudah) near pear di level regional

Tapi ya memang belum teruji beneran di major conflict jadi bisa aja overestimated. Bbrp tahun kedepan juga misalnya akan jadi ujian buat PLAN setelah nambah hullnya kenceng banget bisa gk maintain MRO semuanya

 

[RadenSudirman]