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So, what is the goal then? Agitating the Dutch Government until dead?.
All I want them to do is pay reparations to the victims or their relatives and an official acknowledgement of our true date of independence.

That's it.
I'm sorry, I know this question is little bit personal. I noticed you long time ago, you were a right (I could say almost far-right (Islamist)) in your political view and now you are have a huge change to the left (almost staunch left) at your view here. What pill that you drink? Or "horseshoe theory" applicable to you?.
I've always held these views, I didn't change one bit since the day I joined this forum.

Also I don't really subscribe to the whole "where are you on the political spectrum" thingy

I'm just a simple Muslim guy lol
 

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I've always held these views, I didn't change one bit since the day I joined this forum.

Also I don't really subscribe to the whole "where are you on the political spectrum" thingy

I'm just a simple Muslim guy lol
Ok... No permanent friend, only permanent personal view. It's ok btw, but just like inconsistent.
 

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When Prabowo visit other countries to prepare another Shopping spree

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retno marsudi sama prabowo barengan ke jepang , ngeliat mereka janjiin loan + secara terang terangan janji bakalan produksi 4 kapal dimari , kalo indonesia mesen fregat mereka sebanyak 8 unit , kira kira 30FFM / Mogami class bakalan jadi kuda hitam ?

https://nasional.kompas.com/read/20...han-prabowo-akan-ke-jepang-untuk-pertemuan-22

If this thing was true .... It's nothing but a precursor of changing the quad into pentas...


And honestly .... We do need that standing albeit in more slowly , deliberately yet firm and calculated manner .
 

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If this thing was true .... It's nothing but a precursor of changing the quad into pentas...


And honestly .... We do need that standing albeit in more slowly , deliberately yet firm and calculated manner .
I don't see it happening at least within the framework of the Quad. There is no doubt that we will (or already❓) joining the Quad, it just under different framework
 

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If this thing was true .... It's nothing but a precursor of changing the quad into pentas...


And honestly .... We do need that standing albeit in more slowly , deliberately yet firm and calculated manner .
Yeah, no. We have too many to lose if we join any military alliance. For the time being at least, where every country involved in the region's brouahaha still holding back from pulling the trigger.

What it will signify, should the deal got through, is that it will become a milestone for Japan defense industries since this was unimaginable just ten years ago. While they still have to adjust many things to increase their competitiveness in international market, but it's not beyond the realm of possibilities anymore to see, say, Mitsubishi offers an upgrade package for F-16s or ASM-3A supersonic long range AShM.
 
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