Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

[Var Dracon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553292633534971905

Strapped a whole SPA to heli deck

 

[RadenSudirman]

Is it allowed to post the castration video link here? or any sort of graphic war footage?

 

[Umigami]

Is it allowed to post the castration video link here? or any sort of graphic war footage?

It Isn't allowed.

 

[NEKO]

What data that PSE must provide to kominfo exactly? Isn't it just general info about their services(how many users, the type of the service etc) and not data from each user (e-mail address, IP address, username & password, etc) right?

 

[Ruhnama]

This kind of autarkic ultranationalist rhetoric is duri ning silit wkwk. These bangsa, pancasila etc words are too much exploited here.

Again. If people think the problems made by the parties exist and maybe lack of parties representing your views, this open system called democracy give people right to make new party and change the government through democratic mechanism. There are still hope

Change the military by put your buddy as MoD and change it with civilian supremacy.

if we are as good as chinese, good tech etc so we can make our own karya anak bangsa... so we can see ton of locl govt application etc, not really reliable

like ojol brand "karya ank bangsa" but Karya Anak Bangalore

 

[Ruhnama]

What data that PSE must provide to kominfo exactly? Isn't it just general info about their services(how many users, the type of the service etc) and not data from each user (e-mail address, IP address, username & password, etc) right?

yeah like that actually even illegals domino, qiuqiu and zeus geledek or kakek merah still operating and listed in PSE

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553292633534971905

Strapped a whole SPA to heli deck

kita pernah juga to, pake meriam 105 wkwkkw

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552728913801003009

Dari wilayah Buryat lagi?

kadang kaya dari "pedalaman" lebih sadis. Apalagi dia melihat etnis Ukraina itu sebagai bukan sodaraan lagi atau yah gtu deh...intinya jd lebih sades

 

[Lordimperator]

kadang kaya dari "pedalaman" lebih sadis. Apalagi dia melihat etnis Ukraina itu sebagai bukan sodaraan lagi atau yah gtu deh...intinya jd lebih sades

Dijadiin cannon fodder + jagal...

 

[schuimpjes]

All data asked by court. Gagal memenuhi penyerahan data yg diminta maka akan diblokir.

There was case of IS inspired terrorists attack (the perpetrators were husband and wife) in San Bernardino, CA back then. The phone of the terrorist was Iphone 5C from Apple. Know what was happened? The Apple didn't want to open the phone because they stuck that costumer data must be protected, If I remember correctly. Then the FBI unlocked the phone by the service of third party, probably Cellebrite.

BTW, it's not like the NSA and others even with their controversial PRISM or XKEYSCORE can do anything. In order to look what inside the phone, you need to get to the phone or put Trojan spyware (notorious Pegasus for example) that the victims still need to download the trojaned spyware. PRISM can only see at the end to end, not extract whole data.


Edit: there's a report that said Pegasus has zero click exploit for certain type of iOS of Iphone lol. Apple need to fix that, maybe they already did.

 

[schuimpjes]

Untungnya produsen hp ga perlu daftar PSE

Bokep di gallery masih aman wkwk

 

[schuimpjes]

Hari gini masih download file dan ga cukup streaming?

Joke lol not literally like that

 

[schuimpjes]

Those with access to XKEYSCORE can spying to our chats from all apps maybe, without even a warrants. Police wanna search your house even need warrant to do it, NSA etc can just look at your mailbox even if it inside your house without warrant lol

They unnaively think, "kalo gak ketauan berarti bukan kriminal". Based

 

[NEKO]

All data asked by court. Gagal memenuhi penyerahan data yg diminta maka akan diblokir.

Kominfo ga bisa minta datanya tanpa perintah pengadilan, tapi jenis data yg dapat diminta pengadilan adalah semua jenis data. Dan daftar ke PSE artinya setuju dgn persyaratan untuk serahkan semua data klo diminta pengadilan.

Polisi selama ini juga bisa minta data atas perintah pengadilan, tapi bedanya polisi ga bisa ancam blokir. Jadi klo website/aplikasi ga mau serahkan data, yaudah polisi cuma bisa plonga plongo.

Itu situs judi ilegal yg daftar PSE bisa tuh diminta serahkan data rekening user yg pke buat diproses pengadilan lol

Eh ada pasal larangan & sanksi klo pke situs judi gak sih? Klo ga ada berarti aman aja. Ntr kaya aturan larangan jualan rokok ke anak dibawah usia 18 tahun tapi ga ada sanksinya lol

Oh, I see.

 

[trishna_amrta]

Paypal blocked by Kominfo...

Pemerintah naruh kedaulatan negara di Internet, mau masuk, daftar ikuti aturan main yang ada. Menurutku, untuk kebijakan ini pemerintah gak ngukur untung ruginya dulu, yang penting ngasih tau dulu kalo penguasa internet itu pemerintah.

Ada 2 kutub menurutku, mau internet itu bebas banget gak ada intervensi pemerintah atau mau negara naro kedaulatan di internet sampe kayak China. Bisa juga dan ada juga posisi di antara 2 itu lol.

Gimana-gimana, gak ada waiver untuk beberapa ESP yang banyak orang pakek dan berpengaruh untuk hidup orang itu sangat bisa dipahami banyak yang gak suka sama kebijakan ini. Dan mungkin banyak juga yang cuma kena bandwagon effect, yang gak tau apa-apa yang penting ngelawan pemerintah kapitalis oligarki (anti-capitalist leaning) zalim thagut (far-right leaning). Paling gak, tau dulu sama sikap yang diambil tu tuntutannya sampe dapetin apa.

HOAX apa lagi sich kalian ini
Saya buka internet situs apa pun lancar2x aja tuch, padahal saya GapTek, beda ama kalian yg katanya generasi Millenial, Gen-Z khan pada jago2x komputer semua (Generasi Digital). Kalau saya mah Gen-X orang jadul kaga ngerti yg rumit2x gitu malah lancar2x aja internet. Problem koneksi terjadi karena memang kapasitas & reliability infrastruktur di sisi operator memang masih sangat minim dibandingkan negara2x industri

PayPal desktop

PayPal Android

 

[schuimpjes]

HOAX apa lagi sich kalian ini
Saya buka internet situs apa pun lancar2x aja tuch, padahal saya GapTek, beda ama kalian yg katanya generasi Millenial, Gen-Z khan pada jago2x komputer semua (Generasi Digital). Kalau saya mah Gen-X orang jadul kaga ngerti yg rumit2x gitu malah lancar2x aja internet. Problem koneksi terjadi karena memang kapasitas & reliability infrastruktur di sisi operator memang masih sangat minim dibandingkan negara2x industri

PayPal desktop

PayPal Android

Yes hmm

 

[schuimpjes]

Paypal

They never wanna register it or what? I don't know Thiel still has influence in PayPal or not, but if still, there are probability this one never register it.

Thiel is known to be Libertarian that actively fund politicians that has the same economic view as him, especially from Republican. Himself is gay, very different with Republican of the South. Libertarian is different with Liberal if we used term that used in US. Libertarian is about small or zero government intervention to people life, notably economy. I don't think he likes Indonesian government to control the ESPs and prefer total freedom.

FDR spirit hates these Libertarian for sure, since industrialists that thought still lived during the Gilded Age made conspiracy (makar) tried to coup him based on the account of one veteran general from WW1, this one called as Business Plot.

FDR: Government intervention went brrrr

 

[trishna_amrta]

So the govt taking the end user (*their own taxpayer) as the hostages/ bargaining chips....
They do really care about this matters more than data securities, and the thing thats piss me off is the spokesperson said this : bisa digantikan dengan karya anak bangsa...

Itu maksudnya pakailah produk & layanan dari itu tuch yg nama company yg ada embel2x "Karya Anak Bangsa"

Lagian kok heboh banget sich lah kalau kalian memang perlu pakai website luar negeri entah apalah itu yg kalaian ributkan ga jelas, tinggal buka aja website nya seperti saya, lancar2x saja kok. Beda lagi kalau internet kalian numpang di warkop atau sejenisnya, atau kalaian ada masalah dengan billing (pembayaran) kuota internet.

Saya buka internet manapun lancar2x aja, ga perlu pakai yg namanya VPN atau apalah itu namanya yg kalian sering sebut2x. Sesuatu kalau simple jangan dibuat rumit, akhirnya susah sendiri kalian.

nich yg tadi kalian sebut2x diblokir atau apalah. Lancar jaya selama tagihan (billing) dibayar nya lancar

 

[Lordimperator]

nich yg tadi kalian sebut2x diblokir atau apalah. Lancar jaya selama tagihan (billing) dibayar nya lancar

Ampun Pakk,
Tau gitu pakai MyRep...

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553958299459997697

 

[schuimpjes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553958299459997697

AUKUS see concern no. 5: "Bangsat"

 

[FPXAllen]

AUKUS see concern no. 5: "Bangsat"

And then some people consider this as "proof" that Indonesia is leaning toward China.

Man, I get so tired every time I see posts on Reddit, Quora, or foreign news comment sections that show clearly both the West fanatics and the Wumaos only see things as black and white where neutrality (or centrality) is not an option at all. For both of them, it's always "if you're not with us, you're against us".