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[trishna_amrta]

i just need to change my ipv4 DNS into either 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 , and you could pretty much open reddit or website that was previously blocked by our generous Ministry of Communication and Information Technology .

Best to use OpenNIC for better redundancy. Lately there has been many disruptions of Google services, with Cloudflare might be next in the list. My best guess is they were under attack

btw , my kaspersky AV detect a potential trojan in bakamla website

dang and here I am operating without any after market antivirus

is it the SOE one?

Suffice to say those whose lobbying for censorship weren't received enough revenue against their overburden infrastructure. After the censorship went i full swing they began to pushing their own contents which are mostly clickbait porn and online gambling by either domain hijacking, intrusive ads, etc,

 

[schuimpjes]

@trishna_amrta newest ODNI publication about foreign influence in US Election 2020. Are you interested on this case?

Russian online influence actor generally promoted Trump..... ? Hmm like influencer with "M" Initial in Indonesia. He is either a "useful idiot" or a troll.

 

[trishna_amrta]

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@trishna_amrta newest ODNI publication about foreign influence in US Election 2020. Are you interested on this case?

Ever notice that all those so-called publication, research, etc has somehow deliberately failed to mention anything on what the other side have done using their mainstream medias, social medias campaign, Google search advert, etc One thing I see very clear since 2016 is both Putin & Trump are autonomous guy, meaning their policy be it for good or ill were coming from them rather than coming from some "larger political / business interest group". nI fact, in most cases Trump policy is very much similar to JKW policy albeit it's delivered in different manner (and contrasting communication style)

Russian online influence actor generally promoted Trump..... ? Hmm like influencer with "M" Initial in Indonesia. He is either a "useful idiot" or a troll.

Seriously I have no F idea whose M is If I ever notice any influencer, buzzer (or whatever) in any of my feeds I just put them in my ignore / block list and be done with it. I use social medias to connect with old friends (silahturahmi & menyambung persaudaraan) rather than for any political related activity (I came from rather political oriented family, had enough of real world dirty practical politic already)

 

[schuimpjes]

Ever notice that all those so-called publication, research, etc has somehow deliberately failed to mention anything on what the other side have done using their mainstream medias, social medias campaign, Google search advert, etc

That ODNI publication is about
"Foreign Influence", not influence by "internal". And also if you notice, that screenshot that I put also mentioned Russian influence to influence the " Left" To not choose both. If you knew, CNN, NBC (and other below it), ABC, etc were backed the Democrats, that also included "staunch left Bernie Sanders". So, actually that ODNI publication also indirectly point the left also not just the right.

One thing I see very clear since 2016 is both Putin & Trump are autonomous guy, meaning their policy be it for good or ill were coming from them rather than coming from some "larger political / business interest group". nI fact, in most cases Trump policy is very much similar to JKW policy albeit it's delivered in different manner (and contrasting communication style)

Trump was tried to saved Russia for their involvement in 2016 interference and Solarwinds hacking, he was blamed China instead. Even his own Secretary of State, Pompeo, said Russia was the one who did that. He was always thought, China was the source of all problem, forgetting Russia. Mehh not weird, Manafort was known coluded with Shaddy Russian and not just Manafort btw, CNP and other backer like John Birch Society are closer to Russia after the Soviet Union, because Russia are more closer to God maybe kwka

And about the Abraham Accords, this one was the the best of him for me. Thanks to his Evangelical supporters (sad to see this part of community are filled with QAnon now).

Seriously I have no F idea whose M is If I ever notice any influencer, buzzer (or whatever) in any of my feeds I just put them in my ignore / block list and be done with it. I use social medias to connect with old friends (silahturahmi & menyambung persaudaraan) rather than for any political related activity (I came from rather political oriented family, had enough of real world dirty practical politic already)

The guy that said "A submarine tried to shot Donald Trump's Air Force One. But, that attempt was failed because SEALs were blablabla... ", you know lah wkwk.

He was also forwarded the narations from conspiracy theorists like Roger Stone, Alex Jones, one of the example was about, Trump would using Insurection Act to took back the country from criminal bloodthirst globalist cabals or stuffs. Roger Stone and Alex Jones are known for their conspiracy theories, and also, for their Pro Trump Conspiracy Theories like QAnon.

Disinformation dissemination to public are classic Russian psychological weapon since... Idk... Ion Mihai Pacepa said even since Tsarist Okhrana, even though someone said that was purely from the far right (about The Protocols of Elder of Zion conspiracy theory) and continued to USSR "Active Measures" and use that again now with the term that I know is called as "Assistance Operation".

 

[FlyinMandau]

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@trishna_amrta newest ODNI publication about foreign influence in US Election 2020. Are you interested on this case?

Russian online influence actor generally promoted Trump..... ? Hmm like influencer with "M" Initial in Indonesia. He is either a "useful idiot" or a troll.

if this M guy is adapted on some RPGame his stats gonna be like
STR: 5/10
INT: 2/10
CHA: 9/10

 

[Ravager]

That ODNI publication is about
"Foreign Influence", not influence by "internal". And also if you notice, that screenshot that I put also mentioned Russian influence to influence the " Left" To not choose both. If you knew, CNN, NBC (and other below it), ABC, etc were backed the Democrats, that also included "staunch left Bernie Sanders". So, actually that ODNI publication also indirectly point the left also not just the right.

Trump was tried to saved Russia for their involvement in 2016 interference and Solarwinds hacking, he was blamed China instead. Even his own Secretary of State, Pompeo, said Russia was the one who did that. He was always thought, China was the source of all problem, forgetting Russia. Mehh not weird, Manafort was known coluded with Shaddy Russian and not just Manafort btw, CNP and other backer like John Birch Society are closer to Russia after the Soviet Union, because Russia are more closer to God maybe kwka

And about the Abraham Accords, this one was the the best of him for me. Thanks to his Evangelical supporters (sad to see this part of community are filled with QAnon now).

The guy that said "A submarine tried to shot Donald Trump's Air Force One. But, that attempt was failed because SEALs were blablabla... ", you know lah wkwk.

He was also forwarded the narations from conspiracy theorists like Roger Stone, Alex Jones, one of the example was about, Trump would using Insurection Act to took back the country from criminal bloodthirst globalist cabals or stuffs. Roger Stone and Alex Jones are known for their conspiracy theories, and also, for their Pro Trump Conspiracy Theories like QAnon.

Disinformation dissemination to public are classic Russian psychological weapon since... Idk... Ion Mihai Pacepa said even since Tsarist Okhrana, even though someone said that was purely from the far right (about The Protocols of Elder of Zion conspiracy theory) and continued to USSR "Active Measures" and use that again now with the term that I know is called as "Assistance Operation".

Your so called " M " are nothing but a socmed attention whore . It's just that pure and simple whore .
Why he get so famous ?? Thanks to stupidity of most grassroots who mostly know to coment fast enough on socmeds about something or anything without a proper comprehension capability to process and analyze some semblance of data and factual comparison .

And that is thw reality of our nation brother ...

 

[schuimpjes]

if this M guy is adapted on some RPGame his stats gonna be like
STR: 5/10
INT: 2/10
CHA: 9/10

Your so called " M " are nothing but a socmed attention whore . It's just that pure and simple whore .
Why he get so famous ?? Thanks to stupidity of most grassroots who mostly know to coment fast enough on socmeds about something or anything without a proper comprehension capability to process and analyze some semblance of data and factual comparison .

And that is thw reality of our nation brother ...

Omg I wanna cry you all know the "M" Wkwkwk

 

[trishna_amrta]

Thanks to his Evangelical supporters (sad to see this part of community are filled with QAnon now).

From what I can see, they hate everyone whose simply different from them, which include other denomination of Christianity and Catholic. The rapid availability of broadband internet is mostly to blame for it. Just like what happen in , they were mentally unprepared to suddenly being bombarded by the internet, thus unable to filtered out bogus contents

if this M guy is adapted on some RPGame his stats gonna be like
STR: 5/10
INT: 2/10
CHA: 9/10

You forgot the CON, DEX, and WIS

Omg I wanna cry you all know the "M" Wkwkwk

dang seem I'm the only one here who doesn't have the slightest clue as who is that M guy.
On the flip side, it's a proven example of how my buzzer / troll filtering measures has proven to be effective

 

[R4duga]

are those "M" initial you guys talking about , the former follower of lia eden ?

 

[schuimpjes]

Just like what happen in , they were mentally unprepared to suddenly being bombarded by the internet, thus unable to filtered out bogus contents

Sweden is very good at educating its citizens btw. Internet literacy are educated to its kids since elementary school I think. And that program seems very good at its execution.

are those "M" initial you guys talking about , the former follower of lia eden ?

Yupp. I don't know actually was he Lia Eden follower or just tricked or whatever the followers of Lia Eden. But, what I know, Lia Eden things were known in his life.

 

[Ravager]

Where the hell is she today anyway ?? Seem too peacefull these days without some of her followers doing something .....
Well , HRS is .... In another virus bracket section's tho'

 

[schuimpjes]

Well , HRS is .... In another virus bracket section's tho'

HRS is a sensitive matter for me. I don't want to talk about it in the real life, try to evade the the discussions about it. Because people in front of me maybe put this issue with their feeling. You know what I mean?

Add: In real life. But, if In virtual world like this, I will try my best to destroy them if I want wkwk. I'm a goddamn coward wkwk

 

[whatintarnation]

Histori Bersama

Fantastic YouTube channel discussing Dutch war crimes (and just crimes in general) in the Dutch East Indies and the Indonesian struggle for independence.

This one shook me to my core, an absolute eye opener

 

[FlyinMandau]

Histori Bersama

Fantastic YouTube channel discussing Dutch war crimes (and just crimes in general) in the Dutch East Indies and the Indonesian struggle for independence.

This one shook me to my core, an absolute eye opener

the dutch was just another typical ex-imperialist, never gonna fully acknowledge what deeds they did in the past. we're no good either thou, we never talk or been taught about "periode bersiap" or timor. nice to see him talking about that.

 

[schuimpjes]

Histori Bersama

Fantastic YouTube channel discussing Dutch war crimes (and just crimes in general) in the Dutch East Indies and the Indonesian struggle for independence.

This one shook me to my core, an absolute eye opener

Once you are not get caught, you are clean. Easy. Applicable to any things, even everyday life, like cheating in school maybe.

 

[trishna_amrta]

the dutch was just another typical ex-imperialist, never gonna fully acknowledge what deeds they did in the past. we're no good either thou, we never talk or been taught about "periode bersiap" or timor. nice to see him talking about that.

Once you are not get caught, you are clean. Easy. Applicable to any things, even everyday life, like cheating in school maybe.

One of the most important aspect when studying any history is, one shouldn't judge deeds that was done in the past using present days perspective. Back in the days such deeds were acceptable.

 

[whatintarnation]

Back in the days such deeds were acceptable.

I don't think mass murder, slavery and the denial of basic human rights by the Dutch during their stay in Indonesia was even acceptable by their standards.

 

[schuimpjes]

I don't think mass murder, slavery and the denial of basic human rights by the Dutch during their stay in Indonesia was even acceptable by their standards.

But doesn't mean, we (Indonesia) were not did that too. That's why I don't wanna talk about it if I can. We were not clean too, then how?.

If talking about "dirty", our side also "dirty". So it just same for me. What is important for me is at least the political goals are achieved + don't get caught. That's my law of war, machiavellian, but whatever.

 

[whatintarnation]

But doesn't mean, we (Indonesia) were not did that too. That's why I don't wanna talk about it if I can. We were not clean too, then how?.

If talking about "dirty", our side also "dirty". So it just same for me. What is important for me is at least the political goals are achieved + don't get caught. That's my law of war, machiavellian, but whatever.

The difference is this:

The black pages of our history were committed by people or groups that are either dead, apologized for their crimes (sincerely) or no longer in power anymore. The current Reformasi Indonesia is not the same as the Orde Baru or Orde Lama Indonesia.

The Netherlands on the other hands still has their cursed royal family in power and the same government that perpetrated the war in Indonesia and the colonial government before that lingers on.

Let me just say that the crimes we have done (Bersiap, Invasion of TImor) can not be compared to what the Dutch did to us. Histori Bersama talked about this exact issue where colonial apologists used Bersiap as an excuse for the ""harsh""" (big ass understatement) """"police actions"""", with the reply being that Bersiap was a result of 350 years of oppression and that the build up of hate was solely caused by the colonial Dutch government. (They did after all started this history of targeted mass murders with the genocide of Banda)

Here's the video on the topic:

 

[schuimpjes]

The difference is this:

The black pages of our history were committed by people or groups that are either dead, apologized for their crimes (sincerely) or no longer in power anymore. The current Reformasi Indonesia is not the same as the Orde Baru or Orde Lama Indonesia.

The Netherlands on the other hands still has their cursed royal family in power and the same government that perpetrated the war in Indonesia and the colonial government before that lingers on.

Let me just say that the crimes we have done (Bersiap, Invasion of TImor) can not be compared to what the Dutch did to us. Histori Bersama talked about this exact issue where colonial apologists used Bersiap as an excuse for the ""harsh""" (big ass understatement) """"police actions"""", with the reply being that Bersiap was a result of 350 years of oppression and that the build up of hate was solely caused by the colonial Dutch government. (They did after all started this history of targeted mass murders with the genocide of Banda)

Here's the video on the topic:

So, what is the goal then? Agitating the Dutch Government until dead?.

We have someone like that too, like pro-OPM people, penggiat HAM, SJW and many more. They are rather doing more productive things. Yeah they are doing a very great things, but I don't know. For whatever sake, I have no idea how to make this kind of people happy.

I'm sorry, I know this question is little bit personal. I noticed you long time ago, you were a right (I could say almost far-right (Islamist)) in your political view and now you are have a huge change to the left (almost staunch left) at your view here. What pill that you drink? Or "horseshoe theory" applicable to you?.