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I think initially it will be the Mig-29k as we already have another Naval squadron trained and ready to go(If I remember correctly). Though this might change in a few years if another aircraft is available.
I think initially it will be the Mig-29k as we already have another Naval squadron trained and ready to go(If I remember correctly). Though this might change in a few years if another aircraft is available.
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Navy would most likely cope up with mig29k,even buy additional mig29k till it gets ready,by 2030+
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Yeah, It's time for India to heavily invest for it's Own Aircraft. India should take some new projects beside Tejas.
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AMCA, MWF and TEDBF are currently under work.
It keeps changing. I think eventually they will settle on naval versions of Tejas.
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IN can take this chance to get some western fighters. If IN can't manage those now then they can't keep up with China's stealth fighter. Relying too much of west : result will be like Pakistan.
other factors is talking to P-8Is , kalvari class submarines , Romeo helicopters and reaper drones . Growlers are still best in class as far as electronic warfare is considerd.
IN is still operating a lot of American hardware , and growlers can be used in Himalyan region too
AMCA and TEDF are still conceptual and requirement of aircraft is real ,
F-18 block 3 can give natural advantage in IOR and they can easily raise the cost of adversary to counter them
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There is a reason IAF didn't go for F-16s in MMRCA 2.0 despite the yanks offering ToT and localized production, not to mention they were willing to move the entire production line to India for export orders as well but it comes with too many strings attached and we all know what happened with pak or Turkey
Secondly, both F-16s and 18s have reached the zenith of their upgrade potential. This will also eat up funds that're supposed to be allocated to TEDBF resulting in significant delays or possibly killing the project
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There is no N-AMCA under development for now and requires significant design mods to make it carrier compatible. If I remember it correctly, AMCA's size wouldn't allow it to fit in the hanger lifts of INS Vikrant. Also, AMCA is more about sensor fusion, stealth, advanced avionics & EW suite along with effective utilization of support platforms like the CATS warrior all which require considerable time and money for development ...I doubt the advancement of these tech given the funds we've allocated so far
TEDBF oth is a redesigned twin engined naval version of MWF. In one of ADA's interview, the director stated that ADA was still contemplating between trapezoidal vs delta canard config but based on TEDBF's model displayed at Aero India 21, they went ahead with Delta Canard probably to keep in line with MWF and lower the development costs
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Probably as TEDBF can be developed lot faster. AMCA lot of first principle stuff still has to be made concrete...and then there is question of how it holds up with time in specific naval environment/rigour....or navalised version has to be developed once credibility+experience built up to some degree first with original TDs etc.
Overall I am more interested in seeing what choice IN will make for a dedicated AWACS platform for its carrier wings.
Like what will be the naval NETRA.
ASW is adequately covered now....but there need to be far more aerial sensoring capacity and networking for CBG.
C4I network behind MFSTAR will only be fully unlocked when we have our version of hawkeye....not to mention projection by the naval air groups.
The envelope set by this AWACs choice.... along with what the weapons profile + integration capacity + available sustained flight hours.... available per fighter unit (that succeeds the Mig-29K....be it TEDBF or foreign sourced platform) for next 3 decades...will determine the choice.
If foreign sourced fighter, India will need full cooperation with the provider at very intrinsic level as to what options/plans are available (in coming decades) to deal with evolving technologies at the unit level. This will be some fairly deep RnD analysis, cooperation and trust. They cannot be left hung out to dry given the investment.
People have to look well beyond the unit brochure/specs as far as possible. Some platforms cost lot more because of what will be unlocked in them with time (that India needs to know as fully as possible before commiting)....whereas Mig 29 K is clear example of something stuck in time warp relatively speaking.
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The only point which , I have is numbers in MMRCA the nubers were more that will give more leverage to US , now in case of Navy its just two squadrons so US cant do much arm twisting .
We are part of QUAD and in order to talk to the platform of other 3 countries we need platform which can talk to each other . F-18's can easily dominate the whole IOR , and F-18's can literally give a solid blow to China in IOR which Mig 29s lack lastly F-18's are pretty mature carrier based aircrafts with unmatchable armaments and electronic warfare suits . The only other platforms which can equate with F-18s are marine rafales and F-35 ( which US will not offer) but they have size issues to fit on lift of both carriers .
If the point is that US will get some leverage to blackmail India after buying F-18s then they can still do that as we already operates a lot of US hardware such as P-8is , apaches , chinnoks , romeos and reaper drones .
The recent crashes of Mig-29 Ks are enough to prove the shaddy quality of these planes.
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Blackmail? They can lose India for good then. This is not the India of 30 years prior.
They know that and they know the stakes. S-400 and CAATSA will be major litmus test.
Its very simple.... either they truly get their own strategy or they are doing BS there. It will all come out in the wash with time....my hunch is they know they need India on their side as far as possible.
Ironically, talking of carriers, they sent a CBG to threaten us back in the day....and saw that stunt didnt change an iota.
Thumbi , I get your point , they need India more then India needs them thats fact . The only reason I mentioned F-18's are they are best available matured platform and can easily counter anything China can throw in IOR , and they will give enough breather to Indian aviation Industry to develop some good carrier based platform .
Growlers are best in electronic warfare and the armament they carry can easily blunt anything we meet in IOR , F-18's can easily dominate in IOR so only two squadrons can easily give us strategic edge against China .
We cant match China in numbers so quality is only factor which we can have and F-18's can easily increase Chinese cost to counter them
