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This is not my image. If not you then someone stole my logo, modified it and created one image indicating that is mine. Delete it asap. Shame to the person who did that!
And I was wondering why your logo in said image has "Analisis" instead of Analises. That explains it.
 

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Offshore "Operation" and Patrol Ship. I think these ships can be armed quickly in crisis times.
Just thinking loud; Could it be that, due to the possible embargo danger on building powerful and fully loaded warships, Turkey is building these half empty (with respect to weapons) ships now to strengthen it’s hand in the event of a war to quickly arm them?
We already have 4 coast guard corvettes. TCSGs DOST, GUVEN, UMUT and YASAM.
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Now 10 more Milgem Ada class ships.
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Could it be that, due to the possible embargo danger on building powerful and fully loaded warships, Turkey is building these half empty (with respect to weapons) ships now to strengthen it’s hand in the event of a war to quickly arm them?
It is because, a fully-equipped warship is an overkill for offshore patrol duties, thus low-configuration highly modular ships with sacrificed abilities and affordable prices (lower-speed, lower concerns on signatures and sensors) are needed. Typically any ship in the inventory let it be the ones under command of CG is built to be equipped with heavier weapons-missiles when needed.
These patrol ships will have 76 mm + RCWSs, probably cirit-umtas and mhers, can be readily equipped with MRAShM and coreover sungur launcounter-measures and scaled-down ESM module, will host a CMS similar to Milgems but with limited features.
We will hear the actual sensor-radar-weapon-USV/UAV configuration soon.
 

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It is because, a fully-equipped warship is an overkill for offshore patrol duties, thus low-configuration highly modular ships with sacrificed abilities and affordable prices (lower-speed, lower concerns on signatures and sensors) are needed. Typically any ship in the inventory let it be the ones under command of CG is built to be equipped with heavier weapons-missiles when needed.
These patrol ships will have 76 mm + RCWSs, probably cirit-umtas and mhers, can be readily equipped with MRAShM and coreover sungur launcounter-measures and scaled-down ESM module, will host a CMS similar to Milgems but with limited features.
We will hear the actual sensor-radar-weapon-USV/UAV configuration soon.

So it’s true we’re getting 10 more milgem ada class ?

I was thinking that Dearsan corvette could have been a decent choice.
 

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Offshore "Operation" and Patrol Ship. I think these ships can be armed quickly in crisis times.
%100 dual-use fitted but not with ships.

In wartime, I expect the quick installation of
Mar-D
Gökdeniz 35mm( with EO tracker and fire control radar without search radar)
Atmaca and/or medium-range anti-ship missile
Ares-2NCL compact ESM
SUNGUR MANPADS launcher
UMTAS/CIRIT launcher.
None of the above will require a redesign, deck penetration, change in the power distribution system, or ship BMS (Battle management system)

The vanilla version also has a helicopter, UAV, and USV operation capability. So they will also act as a control hub for UAVs and USVs and will lengthen the reach of UAVs without a SATCOM.

So in wartime, they will have similar firepower and protection to a FAC minus the speed plus UAV, helicopter operation capability, and can carry spec-ops detachments with 2xRHIB or USVs like Ulaq.

They will be armed with 76mm guns neither in peace nor in wartime. As putting 76mm is costly. It penetrates the deck requires design change. The renders of the ship don't have 76mm guns for peacetime operations.
 
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Final product might not look like this. But plenty of space to integrate Sapan and anti-ship missiles if wanted. I agree with Doctor that it would turn out similar to TCG Ufuk at least in terms of flexibility.
I'm surprised this one has 76mm at the front and Smart-S Mk2 at the mast. Lol, this is a Milgem without RAM and Atmaca. I don't think we have enough budget to produce 10 of this. BTW even with the best estimates, 10x Milgem costs 2 billion. There is something fishy about this project. First, it was announced as 2+2 now it is 10. Maybe we are trying to expand the navy while staying under the radar.

This is what I expected

 
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Turkish navy has to show up at increasingly more locations every passing year. Safeguarding of EEZ, fishing fleets transportation fleets also space launch locations and space launch transportation ships. Possibly escorting expeditions to polar regions. There will surely be more tasks for the navy in the future.
 

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Sadly blue ones are made in Canada.. We shouldnt use foreign products in such a strategic platform..

It's possible but that prediction is based on us using that company's products before. Radome enclosure design looks completely different. Possibilities are it's Aselsan product or radome was designed to navalize the foreign system.
 

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I hope they will get equiped with frigate type weapons....
Italians aslo are building 16 Offshore ships 5000 tons with VLS Aster and Anti ship missiles .
Without weapons than they are just big coast guard ships 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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It is because, a fully-equipped warship is an overkill for offshore patrol duties, thus low-configuration highly modular ships with sacrificed abilities and affordable prices (lower-speed, lower concerns on signatures and sensors) are needed. Typically any ship in the inventory let it be the ones under command of CG is built to be equipped with heavier weapons-missiles when needed.
These patrol ships will have 76 mm + RCWSs, probably cirit-umtas and mhers, can be readily equipped with MRAShM and coreover sungur launcounter-measures and scaled-down ESM module, will host a CMS similar to Milgems but with limited features.
We will hear the actual sensor-radar-weapon-USV/UAV configuration soon.

OPVs are well long need and going a lot weight off our frigates, corvettes and even smaller boats which have been using also for patrol roles.

Also I don't think marine institutes classify Thaon di Revel-class as OPVs.
 
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For OPV roles u can produce 500-1000 ton ship not 3000 and equiping only with 76mm gun and 20mm
I bet those ships will became frigates but goverment dont want to start a arm race with others .
 
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