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What is the weight of TRG300?

Can the hardpoints of the wings carry such a heavy and volumous missile?
Block IBlock II (Enhanced Warhead Dynamic Effectiveness)
Diameter300 mm300 mm
Weight585 kg670 kg
Range30 - 120 km20 - 90 km
GuidanceGlobal Positioning System + Global Navigation Satellite System Aided Inertial Navigation SystemGlobal Positioning System + Global Navigation Satellite System Aided Inertial Navigation System
ControlAerodynamic Control with Electromechanical Actuation SystemAerodynamic Control with Electromechanical Actuation System
Propellant TypeComposite SolidComposite Solid
Warhead TypesHigh Explosive + Steel BallHigh Explosive + Steel Ball
Warhead Weight105 kg190 kg
Warhead Effective Radius≥ 70 m≥ 80 m
Fuze TypePoint Detonating and ProximityPoint Detonating and Proximity
Accuracy (CEP)≤ 10 m≤ 10 m
 

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So the missile with interfacing release mechanism could weight about 700kg

We have to know the tolerances of the hardpoints of F16 and Akinci to make an estimation and after that the missile has to undergo various tests whether or not it causes resonations when carried.

So it is not so easy to say yes use TRG300 or Bora for more range, there are a lot of factors
 

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So the missile with interfacing release mechanism could weight about 700kg

We have to know the tolerances of the hardpoints of F16 and Akinci to make an estimation and after that the missile has to undergo various tests whether or not it causes resonations when carried.

So it is not so easy to say yes use TRG300 or Bora for more range, there are a lot of factors
as we remember MK-84 (NEB 84) was around 900 kg so TRG300 seems like a possibility.
 

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So the missile with interfacing release mechanism could weight about 700kg

We have to know the tolerances of the hardpoints of F16 and Akinci to make an estimation and after that the missile has to undergo various tests whether or not it causes resonations when carried.

So it is not so easy to say yes use TRG300 or Bora for more range, there are a lot of factors
Of course. But if there is a will there is a way.
But I think Trg300 is more suited to F16 at the moment and may be Hurjet when it becomes available.
However with necessary modifications it could be just about managed by Akinci. One under belly with 2 trlg230 at the wings??
 

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Roketsan has delivered 700 Teber guidance kits to the airforce to date.
Teber guidance kits can be fitted on to Mk81 and Mk82 standard bombs and turn them in to smart bombs that can hit moving targets with up to 50km/hr speed at a range of up to 39km.
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Roketsan: the Atmaca missile family grows​

26/08/2021
By Paolo Valpolini
Among the many big-size mock-up exhibited at the Roketsan stand, two were of products closely linked but aiming at different targets, and with different readiness levels.

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In August 2021 the company delivered the first Atmaca anti-ship missile to the Turkish Navy, following the end of the qualification process. A 750 kg system at launch, the Atmaca is 5.2 meters long with the booster (4.3 meters in flight) and has a declared range of 250 km. An all weather weapon hardened against countermeasures, its 220 kg high explosive-fragmentation warhead ensures effective penetration against naval and land targets, no further details being available on its layout. The guidance suite includes inertial and satellite systems as well as a barometric and a radar altimeter, to give it seas-skimming capabilities. In the final attack phase the system activates its RF seeker for maximum accuracy. A data link ensures target update if needed, as well as re-attack or mission abort. A 3-D mission planning allows time-on-target, designated time-on-target, simultaneous time-on-target and salvo modes. The Atmaca can be launched from surface or underwater naval platforms.

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The missile is currently powered by Safran TR40 turbojet engine; however since 2014 Turkey decided to develop a national solution, and Kale ARGE developed the KTJ-3200 turbojet that will replace the French engine on the Atmaca in due time, and should then also be integrated into the SOM Cruise Missile, also developed and produced by Roketsan. The KTJ-3200 has a diameter of 300 mm, a length of 720 mm, and provides a standard thrust of 3.2 kN (maximum 3.5 kN). A four-stage axial turboengine, it can be fuelled with JP8 or JP10 jet fuel, can operate at altitudes up to 5,000 meters and speed up to 0.95 Mach.

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Leveraging the work done on the Atmaca, in 2019 Roketsan started developing the Kara Atmaca, Land Atmaca in English. The configuration of this surface-to-surface missile is very similar to that of the anti-ship missile, the land version being longer, 6 meters, and heavier, 890 kg at launch, and powered by the same KTJ-3200 that is being adopted for the naval version, although fitted with a bigger fuel tank to increase range. Its navigation package is similar to that of the Almaca, with the addition of a terrain comparison (TERCOM) navigation system that allows flying at low altitude exploiting terrain masking. The Kara Atmaca is fitted with a data link that allows re-targeting while in flight; it can also be used to exploit images taken along the route for intelligence purposes, and last images before impact for battle damage assessment.

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Roketsan declares a range of 280 km, but this is quite probably a conservative figure. The warhead is heavier, 250 kg, but is of the same type, although here too no further details are available; the infrared imaging seeker allows to use the missile against mobile and fixed land targets, such as armoured vehicles, strategic land targets, air defence sites, and enemy fixed or self-propelled missile launchers. The 3D planning system is similar to that of the naval version. A model of an 8×8 truck carrying a four-tube launcher was visible beside the missile mock-up. EDR On-Line understood that a similar launcher is being developed to employ the Atmaca naval version in coastal battery configuration. According to Roketsan sources the Kara Atmaca will start launch trials in 2022, and should enter service within three years.
Photos courtesy Roketsan and P. Valpolini
 
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With it’s semi active laser guidance and up to 6km range, Tanok is an anti tank missile that can be fired from 120mm guns of our tanks. One thing that the writer has missed in above article is the Tanok’s ability to have a top attack mode. This missile’s range can be used to attack tanks that have longer reach sabot rounds than ours.
It looks like Roketsan has got another winner here. Let us hope that it becomes part of the inventory of our tank units very soon.
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Is the weapon tests done with som for Akıncı?
With it’s semi active laser guidance and up to 6km range, Tanok is an anti tank missile that can be fired from 120mm guns of our tanks. One thing that the writer has missed in above article is the Tanok’s ability to have a top attack mode. This missile’s range can be used to attack tanks that have longer reach sabot rounds than ours.
It looks like Roketsan has got another winner here. Let us hope that it becomes part of the inventory of our tank units very soon.
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When would we see Tanok on trials?
 

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Is the weapon tests done with som for Akıncı?

When would we see Tanok on trials?
I was wondering that too. In fact when I first saw the news of Tanok, I thought it was ready to be integrated in to our tanks.
This weapon is a real game changer in the battlefield. Particularly it’s ability to attack from top; Weakest point of any tank. As well as tanks it can be used against any armoured vehicle in the field. It can be used in portable form as well. That makes it even more versatile.
 

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I was wondering that too. In fact when I first saw the news of Tanok, I thought it was ready to be integrated in to our tanks.
This weapon is a real game changer in the battlefield. Particularly it’s ability to attack from top; Weakest point of any tank. As well as tanks it can be used against any armoured vehicle in the field. It can be used in portable form as well. That makes it even more versatile.

Should be ready for Altay T3.
 

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Roketsan: the Atmaca missile family grows​

26/08/2021
By Paolo Valpolini
Among the many big-size mock-up exhibited at the Roketsan stand, two were of products closely linked but aiming at different targets, and with different readiness levels.

click on image to enlarge
In August 2021 the company delivered the first Atmaca anti-ship missile to the Turkish Navy, following the end of the qualification process. A 750 kg system at launch, the Atmaca is 5.2 meters long with the booster (4.3 meters in flight) and has a declared range of 250 km. An all weather weapon hardened against countermeasures, its 220 kg high explosive-fragmentation warhead ensures effective penetration against naval and land targets, no further details being available on its layout. The guidance suite includes inertial and satellite systems as well as a barometric and a radar altimeter, to give it seas-skimming capabilities. In the final attack phase the system activates its RF seeker for maximum accuracy. A data link ensures target update if needed, as well as re-attack or mission abort. A 3-D mission planning allows time-on-target, designated time-on-target, simultaneous time-on-target and salvo modes. The Atmaca can be launched from surface or underwater naval platforms.

click on image to enlarge
The missile is currently powered by Safran TR40 turbojet engine; however since 2014 Turkey decided to develop a national solution, and Kale ARGE developed the KTJ-3200 turbojet that will replace the French engine on the Atmaca in due time, and should then also be integrated into the SOM Cruise Missile, also developed and produced by Roketsan. The KTJ-3200 has a diameter of 300 mm, a length of 720 mm, and provides a standard thrust of 3.2 kN (maximum 3.5 kN). A four-stage axial turboengine, it can be fuelled with JP8 or JP10 jet fuel, can operate at altitudes up to 5,000 meters and speed up to 0.95 Mach.

click on image to enlarge
Leveraging the work done on the Atmaca, in 2019 Roketsan started developing the Kara Atmaca, Land Atmaca in English. The configuration of this surface-to-surface missile is very similar to that of the anti-ship missile, the land version being longer, 6 meters, and heavier, 890 kg at launch, and powered by the same KTJ-3200 that is being adopted for the naval version, although fitted with a bigger fuel tank to increase range. Its navigation package is similar to that of the Almaca, with the addition of a terrain comparison (TERCOM) navigation system that allows flying at low altitude exploiting terrain masking. The Kara Atmaca is fitted with a data link that allows re-targeting while in flight; it can also be used to exploit images taken along the route for intelligence purposes, and last images before impact for battle damage assessment.

click on image to enlarge
Roketsan declares a range of 280 km, but this is quite probably a conservative figure. The warhead is heavier, 250 kg, but is of the same type, although here too no further details are available; the infrared imaging seeker allows to use the missile against mobile and fixed land targets, such as armoured vehicles, strategic land targets, air defence sites, and enemy fixed or self-propelled missile launchers. The 3D planning system is similar to that of the naval version. A model of an 8×8 truck carrying a four-tube launcher was visible beside the missile mock-up. EDR On-Line understood that a similar launcher is being developed to employ the Atmaca naval version in coastal battery configuration. According to Roketsan sources the Kara Atmaca will start launch trials in 2022, and should enter service within three years.
Photos courtesy Roketsan and P. Valpolini
Three years???!!!
 

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Should be ready for Altay T3.
Before Altay, there are 169 M60T and 350 Leopard 2a4 tanks that need this weapon. I hope it gets ready before that. T3 Altay which is the unmanned turret version; At the rate of production BMC is envisaging, can be a decade away. I hope you are wrong!
 

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Before Altay, there are 169 M60T and 350 Leopard 2a4 tanks that need this weapon. I hope it gets ready before that. T3 Altay which is the unmanned turret version; At the rate of production BMC is envisaging, can be a decade away. I hope you are wrong!

Just pulling your leg, I'd be surprised if they weren't performing some live firing trials with TANOK. it's certainly been a few years since its appearance.


Isn't this a bit OP ? 16x TRG-300
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