Live Conflict War in Afghanistan

[guest_07]

Dude it is not space shuttle...

Many experts underestimate
the capability of IEA before.
& many times IEA proved them wrong.
The best part,
they learn nothing on it.

 

[mulj]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433389820118720520

Conservatives in west looks on talibans with envy and admiration.

 

[Gary]

Dude it is not space shuttle...

Yes, but an aircraft is still a complex machine.

I never doubted if they could find the people who could fly it, what I question is for how long will it fly.

 

[mulj]

Yes, but an aircraft is still a complex machine.

I never doubted if they could find the people who could fly it, what I question is for how long will it fly.

Iran and Pakistan have quite enough technicians and engineers to provide such services. It is not like they are cut of the world really.
Altough as i saod earlier they should npt pursute that path, they should go from scratch

 

[Gary]

Iran and Pakistan have quite enough technicians and engineers to provide such services. It is not like they are cut of the world really.

That notion is misleading, the first iteration of the so called IEAAF had access to Pakistan maintainer and possibly parts.

Consider that at the time the Taliban manage to capture MiG-21s which is also operated by the PAF (Shenyang F-7). But still they only have around 2-3 in bad condition before they're toppled in '01.

Now for example the Blackhawks, because really it's all I can think of other than the Hind that the Talibs could manage to fly.
currently, on the contrary, Pakistan or Iran doesn't operate Blackhawks, or produced any of it's part. It's not solve able just merely having an engineer. An aircraft engine is THE MOST COMPLEX part of machinery you could have imagined. And that's just one part of the thousands that constitute a single aircraft.

And let's be real, Taliban or even Pakistan will have to spend huge sum of money to buy parts which would likely be blocked by the USA. Even if they buy it from Turkey.

So while it's totally normal to fly, the real question is for how long? I mean for all the fanfare, that's quite a shame really to see the IEAAF 2.0 grounded.

 

[mulj]

That notion is misleading, the first iteration of the so called IEAAF had access to Pakistan maintainer and possibly parts.

Consider that at the time the Taliban manage to capture MiG-21s which is also operated by the PAF (Shenyang F-7). But still they only have around 2-3 in bad condition before they're toppled in '01.

Now for example the Blackhawks, because really it's all I can think of other than the Hind that the Talibs could manage to fly.
currently, on the contrary, Pakistan or Iran doesn't operate Blackhawks, or produced any of it's part. It's not solve able just merely having an engineer. An aircraft engine is THE MOST COMPLEX part of machinery you could have imagined. And that's just one part of the thousands that constitute a single aircraft.

And let's be real, Taliban or even Pakistan will have to spend huge sum of money to buy parts which would likely be blocked by the USA. Even if they buy it from Turkey.

So while it's totally normal to fly, the real question is for how long? I mean for all the fanfare, that's quite a shame really to see the IEAAF 2.0 grounded.

Iranians managed to fly f14 for decades without single part from usa. Why are you so stuborn im underestimating their abilities to do their own bussiness in that aera to. For God sake it is era of internet amd wide spread knowledge, basic maintaining of existing not up to date equipment is not that big deal if they comit time and resources in it.

 

[guest_07]

Iranians managed to fly f14 for decades without single part from usa. Why are you so stuborn im underestimating their abilities to do their own bussiness in that aera to. For God sake it is era of internet amd wide spread knowledge, basic maintaining of existing not up to date is not that big deal if they comit time and resources in it.

The hater still doubting the
so-called "backward" people.
Let them doubting until die.

 

[Gary]

Iranians managed to fly f14 for decades without single part from usa. Why are you so stuborn im underestimating their abilities to do their own bussiness in that aera to. For God sake it is era of internet amd wide spread knowledge, basic maintaining of existing not up to date is not that big deal if they comit time and resources in it.

Iranians are not comparable to Afghanistan. When the revolution started they had HUNDREDS of US jets including 79 F-14 at the time. That means they could cannibalize parts from other F-14s. From those 79 airframe, currently the IRIAF only had less than 20 in flyable condition.

Another aspect is that Iran had a FUNCTIONING education and research system. Something that Afghanistan lacks. Especially the Taliban country boys.

Internet could only be as useful as you thought, the US had experimented the idea of using Zoom to tutor Afghan air force maintenance crew just months before the fall of Kabul. It doesn't help at all.

An engine is the most complex part of an aircraft and it's just one headache to face, we're still talking hardware not even the software that maintain those chopper a stable flight -___-.

If you see how China (with all the IP theft and R&D spent to develop an engine) struggle to cope up with engine development, you'll understand what I'm talking about. You just can't fixed it up by merely having an engineer lel.

You could ask the local machinist to make a carbon copy of the engine down to the millimeters, and IT WOULD FAIL. And that's just the engine.

 

[mulj]

Iranians are not comparable to Afghanistan. When the revolution started they had HUNDREDS of US jets including 79 F-14 at the time. That means they could cannibalize parts from other F-14s. From those 79 airframe, currently the IRIAF only had less than 20 in flyable condition.

Another aspect is that Iran had a FUNCTIONING education and research system. Something that Afghanistan lacks. Especially the Taliban country boys.

Internet could only be as useful as you thought, the US had experimented the idea of using Zoom to tutor Afghan air force maintenance crew just months before the fall of Kabul. It doesn't help at all.

An engine is the most complex part of an aircraft and it's just one headache to face, we're still talking hardware not even the software that maintain those chopper a stable flight -___-.

If you see how China (with all the IP theft and R&D spent to develop an engine) struggle to cope up with engine development, you'll understand what I'm talking about. You just can't fixed it up by merely having an engineer lel.

You could ask the local machinist to make a carbon copy of the engine down to the millimeters, and IT WOULD FAIL. And that's just the engine.

You overcomplicate things, i am sure with proper conections with iran and pakistan technical institutions and personal they will not have any problems to keep airframes in air as long as they want.

 

[Blank1]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433330581711081474

Unfortunately IEA Government cant beat panjshir demonocracy forces in photo shoot.

 

[Blank1]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433334403770376192

As Pakistan is already on planting spree, Large number of (coniferes, Tsuga dumosa, Gum arabic) etc are already gifted by Pakistan to the government of IEA.

 

[Gary]

You overcomplicate things, i am sure with proper conections with iran and pakistan technical institutions and personal they will not have any problems to keep airframes in air as long as they want.

that's because IT IS COMPLICATED, having an air force is one of the most expensive investment a country could ever have.

Merely having proper connection---not sure what you're implying here--- will not help you maintain the existing airframes. and that's fact. You mention Iran having successfully flown it's F-14 till today, but you forgot to add.

1. Iran prior to the revolution are basically US militiamen in central Asia against the Soviets, that means not only they're flush with US equipment, they're also flooded with US spare parts to ensure they could fly those up till today. (less than 20 F-14 still flying)
2. Iran had a working and flourishing education and research n development system.

None which Afghan have.

With all that Iran still haven't manage to make an engine more advanced than 60s era J-85 turbojets used on the F-5s. Which is still a debate among observers if they actually build it instead of using existing jets for propaganda purpose.

General Electric J85 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

let alone advanced turboshaft engine like the T-700, so yes Pakistani and Iranian could technically maintain those (repairing broken parts, tightening nuts and bolts, testing etc). They lack the capability or capacity to build the PARTS , whether is an engine or any parts. Modern aircrafts has thousand of those parts which WILL need to be replaced over a period of time.

So it's not me who's overcomplicate things, it's you who OVERSIMPLIFIED things.

 

[Blank1]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433251956479385600

why should they, it doesn't suit their agenda and beside they are already in trauma to see their tireless effort of 20 years gone down the drain in JUST 11 days.

 

[Blank1]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433366104135671809

But the photo shoot guy is saying 87998460000 IEA Government forces are killed, i am sure he is not lying.
On the bases of Human rights they didn't show a single dead body of a Government soldier, And posting photos of a single tank that was dragged there 100's of times.

 

[guest_07]

why should they, it doesn't suit their agenda and beside they are already in trauma to see their tireless effort of 20 years gone down the drain in JUST 11 days.

How sad.....

 

[Blank1]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433161143032373248

Biggest cheerleaders are now the biggest loosers, And their misery is going to increase.

 

[guest_07]

But the photo shoot guy is saying 87998460000 IEA Government forces are killed, i am sure he is not lying.
On the bases of Human rights they didn't show a single dead body of a Government soldier, And posting photos of a single tank that was dragged there 100's of times.

& still some one here believe it.
Just check their posts previously.

 

[Lonewolf]

Taliban is a mere gang of dacoits , real player is china here , they will be the master player in upcoming time .

Pakistan will be turned back in a hell hole , taliban will be thrashed time to time .

Russia and china will get the pue here

 

[mulj]

that's because IT IS COMPLICATED, having an air force is one of the most expensive investment a country could ever have.

Merely having proper connection---not sure what you're implying here--- will not help you maintain the existing airframes. and that's fact. You mention Iran having successfully flown it's F-14 till today, but you forgot to add.

1. Iran prior to the revolution are basically US militiamen in central Asia against the Soviets, that means not only they're flush with US equipment, they're also flooded with US spare parts to ensure they could fly those up till today. (less than 20 F-14 still flying)
2. Iran had a working and flourishing education and research n development system.

None which Afghan have.

With all that Iran still haven't manage to make an engine more advanced than 60s era J-85 turbojets used on the F-5s. Which is still a debate among observers if they actually build it instead of using existing jets for propaganda purpose.

General Electric J85 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

let alone advanced turboshaft engine like the T-700, so yes Pakistani and Iranian could technically maintain those (repairing broken parts, tightening nuts and bolts, testing etc). They lack the capability or capacity to build the PARTS , whether is an engine or any parts. Modern aircrafts has thousand of those parts which WILL need to be replaced over a period of time.

So it's not me who's overcomplicate things, it's you who OVERSIMPLIFIED things.

You are out of reality, Iran amn Pakistan can acquire any needed parts or whole engines and avionics for IEA airforce domestically or via China without particular trouble.

 

[Blank1]

This group of frustration people
already in desperation mode.

Lie after lie to no avail.

At least they should try to add some substance but since day one it is still missing.