Live Conflict War in Afghanistan

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
8,361
Reactions
22 12,853
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Anyway for a victor, i say the Taliban are patient enough with these protest.
 

Jackdaws

Experienced member
Messages
2,759
Reactions
1 1,583
Nation of residence
India
Nation of origin
India
Anyway for a victor, i say the Taliban are patient enough with these protest.
What choice do they have? They crave international recognition. Shooting at women and children isn't going to get them any legitimacy. But they can't help themselves - will end up shooting women and children anyway - it's what they usually do.
 

Saithan

Experienced member
Denmark Correspondent
Messages
8,585
Reactions
34 19,630
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Turkey

Kabul airport security can be given to company, Çavuşoğlu says​

BY DAILY SABAH​

ANKARA DIPLOMACY
SEP 07, 2021 10:25 AM GMT+3
Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu attends a joint press conference, in Ankara, Turkey, Sept. 2, 2021 (AA Photo)
Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu attends a joint press conference, in Ankara, Turkey, Sept. 2, 2021 (AA Photo)



The duty to secure Afghanistan’s Kabul Hamid Karzai International Airport can be given to a private security company if the Taliban do not want a foreign military presence there, Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said Tuesday.

Voicing doubts that the Taliban can secure the airport, Çavuşoğlu said that the Taliban or Afghan forces can ensure security outside the airport and that the international community needs a structure it can trust for the airport to operate.

“Currently, planes can take off and land at the airport. Some flights have restarted. Some countries’ citizens are left there. We have also citizens there. We have evacuated more than 1,400 people, 1,060 of these are our citizens,” Çavuşoğlu said speaking at NTV.

He said that 19 technicians of Turkey are continuing their works at the airport.

Turkey is working with Qatar and the United States about operating Kabul airport and is in talks with the Taliban, he highlighted, adding security at the airport was the main issue.

With the Taliban in possession of Kabul's airport after the U.S. completed its withdrawal on Aug. 31, the focus will now shift from the mammoth Western evacuation operation seen in the past two weeks to the group's future plans for the transport hub.

Turkey had offered to run security following the withdrawal of foreign troops, but the Taliban repeatedly said it would not accept any foreign military presence in Afghanistan after Aug. 31.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Turkey was still assessing the group's offer, but the Taliban still insisted on controlling security.

The Taliban have insisted they want to keep the civilian airport open, but without guarantees over security, commercial airlines simply would not operate out of Kabul.

Since 2002, the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) have operated in Afghanistan under the United Nations, NATO and bilateral agreements to contribute to the peace, welfare and stability of the Afghan people. Turkey had more than 500 noncombatant troops stationed in Afghanistan as part of NATO’s now-abandoned mission in the war-torn country.

Turkey has been in Afghanistan in a noncombatant role for two decades and has been involved in consultancy efforts, reconstruction and maintenance. It has been operating the airport for six years.

After the Taliban seized control of the country, Turkey offered technical and security assistance at the airport.

The Taliban say they are working to repair Kabul’s airport, where only domestic flights have resumed and just during the day for now. Mujahid, the group's spokesperson, told reporters Monday that American soldiers destroyed equipment before departing, including the critical radar system. The U.S. has said troops destroyed military equipment but left equipment useful for running a civilian airport, like fire trucks.

Technical experts from Qatar and Turkey have begun repairs, though it’s not clear when the airport will be up and running.

Keeping the airport open after foreign forces hand over control is vital not just for Afghanistan to stay connected to the world but to maintain aid supplies and operations.

Turkey’s top diplomat underlined that Ankara has made a significant investment in Afghanistan including in its education, women and children.
“It would be a wrong decision to leave Afghanistan completely. It would not be right to leave while many countries were withdrawing their embassies,” he said.
Being asked if Turkey would recognize the Taliban, Çavuşoğlu said that one should not be hasty on that issue.

“The world should not be hasty as well. One must act balanced here. The government must be inclusive. It does not work if the government consists only of the Taliban without people from other ethnic groups. Women have to be part of the government,” Çavuşoğlu pointed out, saying that people appointed until today are only people close to the Taliban.

Panjshir clashes

Regarding the conflict in Panjshir Çavuşoğlu said that he hoped this would not turn into a civil war.

The Taliban said Monday they seized the last province not in their control after their blitz through Afghanistan last month, overrunning forces who had opposed their takeover. Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid confirmed that the province, which is north of the capital, was now held by their fighters.

The resisting forces were led by the former vice president, Amrullah Saleh, and also the son of the iconic anti-Taliban fighter Ahmad Shah Massoud. Experts had doubted that the holdout efforts could succeed long-term against the Taliban, whose rapid advance through Afghanistan met little resistance in the final days of America's 20-year war in the country.

 

Blank1

Guest
Messages
3,273
Reactions
5,751
The IEA have been brutally treated by Northern Afghan before.

But the IEA did not retaliate
when they managed to capture Panjshir.

In fact they forgave the Northern Afghan who surrendered
and were given money as a reward.

Alhamdulillah, the IEA follow
the Sunnah of the Prophet s.a.w.

All this is happening since years but twitter was not comfortable with those videos and information and now they or any cant comprehend IEA victory.
 

Saithan

Experienced member
Denmark Correspondent
Messages
8,585
Reactions
34 19,630
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Turkey

High-tech US-made Afghanistan databases fall into Taliban's hands​

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS​

BOSTON ASIA PACIFIC
SEP 07, 2021 9:23 AM GMT+3
An employee scans the eyes of a woman for biometric data needed to apply for a passport, at the passport office in Kabul, Afghanistan, June 30, 2021. (AP Photo)
An employee scans the eyes of a woman for biometric data needed to apply for a passport, at the passport office in Kabul, Afghanistan, June 30, 2021. (AP Photo)



In the past 20 years, the United States and its allies spent hundreds of millions of dollars to fund the creation of databases for the Afghan people, which were supposed to promote law and order and government accountability and modernize a war-ravaged land.

But in the Taliban’s lightning seizure of power, most of that digital apparatus – including biometrics for verifying identities – apparently fell into Taliban hands. Built with few data-protection safeguards, it risks becoming the high-tech jackboots of a surveillance state. As the Taliban get their governing feet, there are worries it will be used for social control and to punish perceived foes.

Putting such data to work constructively – boosting education, empowering women, battling corruption – requires democratic stability, and these systems were not architected for the prospect of defeat.

“It is a terrible irony,” said Frank Pasquale, Brooklyn Law School scholar of surveillance technologies. “It’s a real object lesson in ‘The road to hell is paved with good intentions.’”

Since Kabul fell Aug. 15, indications have emerged that government data may have been used in Taliban efforts to identify and intimidate Afghans who worked with the U.S. forces.

People are getting ominous and threatening phone calls, texts and WhatsApp messages, said Neesha Suarez, constituent services director for U.S. Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, an Iraq War veteran whose office is trying to help stranded Afghans who worked with the U.S. find a way out.

A 27-year-old U.S. contractor in Kabul told The Associated Press (AP) he and co-workers who developed a U.S.-funded database used to manage army and police payrolls got phone calls summoning them to the Defense Ministry. He is in hiding, changing his location daily, he said, asking not to be identified for his safety.

In victory, the Taliban’s leaders say they are not interested in retribution. Restoring international aid and getting foreign-held assets unfrozen are a priority. There are few signs of the draconian restrictions – especially on women – they imposed when they ruled from 1996 to 2001. There are also no indications that Afghans who worked with Americans have been systematically persecuted.

Ali Karimi, a University of Pennsylvania scholar, is among Afghans unready to trust the Taliban. He worries the databases will give the Taliban, known during their insurgency for ruthlessly killing enemy collaborators, "the same capability as an average U.S. government agency when it comes to surveillance and interception.”
The Taliban are on notice that the world will be watching how they wield the data.

All Afghans – and their international partners – have an obligation together to ensure sensitive government data only be used for “development purposes” and not for policing or social control by the Taliban or to serve other governments in the region, said Nader Nadery, a peace negotiator and head of the civil service commission in the former government.

Uncertain for the moment is the fate of one of the most sensitive databases, the one used to pay soldiers and police.

The Afghan Personnel and Pay System has data on more than 700,000 security forces members dating back 40 years, said a senior security official from the fallen government. Its more than 40 data fields include birth dates, phone numbers, fathers' and grandfathers' names, fingerprints and iris and face scans, said two Afghan contractors who worked on it, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution.

Only authorized users can access that system, so if the Taliban can't find one, they can be expected to try to hack it, said the former official, who asked not to be identified for fear of the safety of relatives in Kabul. He expected Pakistan’s ISI intelligence service, long the Taliban’s patron, to render technical assistance. U.S. analysts expect Chinese, Russian and Iranian intelligence also to offer such services.

Originally conceived to fight payroll fraud, that system was supposed to interface eventually with a powerful database at the Defense and Interior ministries modeled on one the Pentagon created in 2004 to achieve “identity dominance” by collecting fingerprints and iris and face scans in combat areas.

But the homegrown Afghanistan Automated Biometric Identification Database grew from a tool to vet army and police recruits for loyalty to contain 8.5 million records, including on government foes and the civilian population. When Kabul fell it was being upgraded, along with a similar database in Iraq, under a $75 million contract signed in 2018.

U.S. officials say it was secured before the Taliban could access it.

Before the U.S. pullout, the entire database was erased with military-grade data-wiping software, said William Graves, chief engineer at the Pentagon’s biometrics project management office. Similarly, 20 years of data collected from telecommunications and internet intercepts since 2001 by Afghanistan’s intelligence agency were wiped clean, said the former Afghan security official.

Among crucial databases that remained are the Afghanistan Financial Management Information System, which held extensive details on foreign contractors, and an Economy Ministry database that compiled all international development and aid agency funding sources, the former security official said.

Then there is the data – with iris scans and fingerprints for about 9 million Afghans – controlled by the National Statistics and Information Agency. A biometric scan has been required in recent years to obtain a passport or a driver’s license and to take a civil service or university entrance exam.

Western aid organizations led by the World Bank, one of the funders, praised the data's utility for empowering women, especially in registering land ownership and obtaining bank loans. The agency was working to create electronic national IDs, known as e-Tazkira, in an unfinished project somewhat modeled on India’s biometrically enabled Aadhaar national ID.

“That’s the treasure chest,” said a Western election assistance official, speaking on condition of anonymity so as not to jeopardize future missions.

It is unclear whether voter registration databases – records on more than 8 million Afghans – are in Taliban hands, the official said. Full printouts were made during the 2019 presidential elections, though the biometric records used then for anti-fraud voter verification were retained by the German technology provider. After the 2018 parliamentary elections, 5,000 portable biometric handhelds used for verification went inexplicably missing.

Yet another database the Taliban inherit contains iris and face scans and fingerprints on 420,000 government employees – another anti-fraud measure – which Nadery oversaw as civil service commissioner. It was eventually to have been merged with the e-Tazkira database, he said.

On Aug. 3, a government website touted the digital accomplishments of President Ashraf Ghani, who would soon flee into exile, saying biometric information on “all civil servants, from every corner of the country" would allow them to be linked “under one umbrella” with banks and cellphone carriers for electronic payment. U.N. agencies have also collected biometrics on Afghans for food distribution and refugee tracking.

The central agglomeration of such personal data is exactly what worries the 37 digital civil liberties groups who signed an Aug. 25 letter calling for the urgent shutdown and erasure, where possible, of Afghanistan’s “digital identity tool,” among other measures. The letter said authoritarian regimes have exploited such data “to target vulnerable people” and digitized, searchable databases amplify the risks. Disputes over including ethnicity and religion in the e-Tazkira database – for fear it could put digital bullseyes on minorities, as China has done in repressing its ethnic Uyghurs – delayed its creation for most of a decade.

John Woodward, a Boston University professor and former CIA officer who pioneered the Pentagon's biometric collection, is worried about intelligence agencies hostile to the United States getting access to the data troves.

“ISI (Pakistani intelligence) would be interested to know who worked for the Americans,” said Woodward, and China, Russia and Iran have their own agendas. Their agents certainly have the technical chops to break into password-protected databases."

 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom