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[Ardabas34]

@Elaser
Seriously though. What did you mean by ''Morocco will end its Polisario question for eternity''?

 

[Elaser]

@Elaser
Seriously though. What did you mean by ''Morocco will end its Polisario question for eternity''?

I mean that Morocco can defeat or push polisario out of the western sahara and by that ending the polisario question.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

I mean that Morocco can defeat or push polisario out of the western sahara and by that ending the polisario question.

You are an outsider to the North African region, yet you hold a biased opinion on the issue.
-The Polisario party is the legal representative of the Sahrawi people, the indigenous people of the Western Sahara.
-Morocco is the illegal invader of the Western Sahara not recognized by the World community and the UN resolutions.

-For everybody's knowledge, Turkey for example, doesn't recognize that the Western Sahara is Moroccan territory.

Your statement "end the Polisario question for eternity" is like condoning and encouraging the ethnic extermination of the Sahrawi people. A dangerous slip from your part.

@Ardabas34

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Being outside north africa dont stop anyone to seek knowledge about the topic. You are a «insider» but still have a anti morocco mindset. No neutrality. However that turkey dont support morocco in this issue is partly wrong. Erdogan said in 2013 that turkey will never accept the polisario front, and the last years turkey have said they want a political solution to the conflict. I also want to mention that in 2019 turkish media group TRT world published a video of polisario, that gave some discomfort from their moroccan counterparts. It ended with foreign minister cavasoglu saying sorry, and that it was a misunderstanding. He also said that turkey dont support any sepatist group and reitared «FULL» support for morocco’s territorial integrity. Please just stick to pakistan defenfe forum and spread your propaganda there. No free room for your baseless claims.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

Being outside north africa dont stop anyone to seek knowledge about the topic. You are a «insider» but still have a anti morocco mindset. No neutrality. However that turkey dont support morocco in this issue is partly wrong. Erdogan said in 2013 that turkey will never accept the polisario front, and the last years turkey have said they want a political solution to the conflict.

Even Israel, Morocco's new sponsor doesn't recognize the Western Saharan territory as Moroccan land.

The final outcome in North Africa will be the Western Sahara Republic and the Republic of Morocco living side by side together. The Sultan of Morocco Mohamed 6 and his family will spend their retirement in the Gulf States where they belong.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

I mean that Morocco can defeat or push polisario out of the western sahara and by that ending the polisario question.

You said : "I mean that Morocco can defeat or push polisario out of the western sahara" :
I am assuming you are Turkish. Can you imagine a foreigner coming to push you out of Turkey and take your place ?
That is exactly what you are suggesting here. The Polisario are Sahrawis, while the Moroccans are foreign invaders in the Western Sahara. Think about it.

 

[NumidianCavalry]

I mean that Morocco can defeat or push polisario out of the western sahara and by that ending the polisario question.

Algeria, Vietnam and Afghanistan didn't teach you anything ? Colonizing certain nations is like keeping a bottle cap under water, whatever you do it'll always end up on the surface.

 

[mohmed84]

Both parties, morocco and POLISARIO, used drones to spy on each other, Algeria flew Mig 25 in the 80s over morocco and have large fleet of reconaissance drones.
Suicide drones need good realtime intelegence through large MALE drones witch morocco lacks deeply, it has few hermes drones.

 

[jamrah]

morocco is preparing to push polisario out of the entirity of western sahara. question is what algeria is going to do in that case?

Defense pact between two nations algeria and sahrawi people as a start

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Defense pact between two nations algeria and sahrawi people as a start

What would this «defence pact» mean?

 

[NumidianCavalry]

What would this «defence pact» mean?

If I had to guess I'd say a military alliance would include sharing of Intel, satellite and drone images, training, arm deals with delayed payments etc..
Only time will tell if such a pact has been signed and what it included eventually.

 

[jamrah]

What would this «defence pact» mean?

it means troubles for you

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Both parties, morocco and POLISARIO, used drones to spy on each other, Algeria flew Mig 25 in the 80s over morocco and have large fleet of reconaissance drones.
Suicide drones need good realtime intelegence through large MALE drones witch morocco lacks deeply, it has few hermes drone

Can you provide source that mig 25 flew over moroccan airpace in the 1980s? However morocco are very secret about their acqusation in some cases. Its reported officialy that morocco have 4 heron, 4 ead harfangs and 13 tb2. Late 2020 morocco wanted also to acquire 4 mq9 predators. A polisario leader got killed in late 2020 by a drone strike that suprised the media, because morocco is not reported to have armed drones, only surveilance drone.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

If I had to guess I'd say a military alliance would include sharing of Intel, satellite and drone images, training, arm deals with delayed payments etc..
Only time will tell if such a pact has been signed and what it included eventually.

Algeria have already trained polisario since early time.. They have also given them weapons, but how much can polisario do in a flat open desert? They have not done anything in 70 years, and i dont think they will ever be able to do something..

 

[NumidianCavalry]

Algeria have already trained polisario since early time.. They have also given them weapons, but how much can polisario do in a flat open desert? They have not done anything in 70 years, and i dont think they will ever be able to do something..

Saying they didn't do anything is more than debatable : they made the Moroccan regime capitulate and offer a cease fire and a promise for a referendum of the self determination for the sahraoui people, a promise that hasn't been fulfilled till this day...

Also, rest assured that if Algeria was involved with more than advises there wouldn't have been an African colony anymore.

Also, the whole soviet doctrine is based on vast open land so that wouldn't be a problem

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Saying they didn't do anything is more than debatable : they made the Moroccan regime capitulate and offer a cease fire and a promise for a referendum of the self determination for the sahraoui people, a promise that hasn't been fulfilled till this day...

Also, rest assured that if Algeria was involved with more than advises there wouldn't have been an African colony anymore.

Also, the whole soviet doctrine is based on vast open land so that wouldn't be a problem

Capitulate? Idk where you get your information from. Morocco took 80%, made a sandwall. Said here take the ceasefire and thats it. If algeria had the power they would have taken it already my friend. «Soviet doctorine» wont help very much when you have drones over your head bombing you in no mans land. We saw how the armenians got whiped out. Their russian doctorine and weapons didnt help...

 

[NumidianCavalry]

Capitulate? Idk where you get your information from. Morocco took 80%, made a sandwall. Said here take the ceasefire and thats it. If algeria had the power they would have taken it already my friend. «Soviet doctorine» wont help very much when you have drones over your head bombing you in no mans land. We saw how the armenians got whiped out. Their russian doctorine and weapons didnt help...

Do you thing Armenia and Azerbaijan fought over open flat land?

Do you think some drones would be able to stop hendreds of tanks and IFVs charging under the cover of air defense?

Aren't you aware that morocco took the saharan lands after they agreed to a cease fire, Doing yet another betrayal?

You seem surprised but the moroccan capitulation, aren't you ware that they asked Polisario to stop ripping them apart and asked the Saudi king to mediate?

Dude you should be more informed than this.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Do you thing Armenia and Azerbaijan fought over open flat land?

Do you think some drones would be able to stop hendreds of tanks and IFVs charging under the cover of air defense?

Aren't you aware that morocco took the saharan lands after they agreed to a cease fire, Doing yet another betrayal?

You seem surprised but the moroccan capitulation, aren't you ware that they asked Polisario to stop ripping them apart and asked the Saudi king to mediate?

Dude you should be more informed than this.

Alot of propaganda here. What you are saying here is the equivelant of me saying that azerbaijan runned to russia to make a ceasefire even if they captured all the land of karabak. No need to discuss about this topic to be honest. E

 

[NumidianCavalry]

Alot of propaganda here. What you are saying here is the equivelant of me saying that azerbaijan runned to russia to make a ceasefire even if they captured all the land of karabak. No need to discuss about this topic to be honest. E

OK so you brought the topic but when you heard the facts you're saying "let's not talk about it, it's propaganda"?
Come on dude...

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

OK so you brought the topic but when you heard the facts you're saying "let's not talk about it, it's propaganda"?
Come on dude...

Facts according to who? Yourself? Lets agree that morocco run for ceasfire and azerbaijan to even if they both won the wars.