Faced with many difficulties, China's economy may decelerate sharply

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China's economy is facing challenges from all sides: a slumping property market, an energy crisis, consumer pessimism, and soaring raw material prices...

The series of data that the government will release next Monday will show how bad the story is. Economists polled by Bloomberg news forecast China's gross domestic product (GDP) growth to be only 5% in the third quarter of this year, from the 7.9% increase achieved in the second quarter.

The outlook for the world's second-largest economy has deteriorated in recent months, as the real estate market has become precarious because of the Evergrande debt crisis, alongside a widespread power outage that has caused major disruptions to the economy. The factory must cut operations or suspend operations. Economists have simultaneously lowered their forecast for China's economic growth this year, saying that this deceleration could have a global impact.

"China's third-quarter growth is not an optimistic picture, especially since the low-base effect has gradually worn off," said Liu Peiqian, an economist at Natwest Markets in Singapore. “In the last quarter, the Chinese government prioritized long-term reform goals and reduced focus on short-term growth targets.

REAL ESTATE MARKET DOWN




Evergrande’s Ghost Cities

Beijing has gradually tightened restrictions on the real estate market to prevent financial risks, causing a sharp decline in construction activity and exacerbating a liquidity crisis at real estate giant Evergrande. . The Evergrande debt crisis has also had a significant impact on China's real estate industry in general. Total sales of China's 100 property developers fell 36% year-on-year in September, which is usually the peak period for annual home sales. From there, the effect is said to be able to spread throughout the economy because according to Goldman Sachs estimates, the real estate industry and related fields account for about a quarter of China's GDP. With cash flow tightening, Chinese real estate companies may have to cut back on new investment. Real estate investment growth may slow to 9.5% in the first nine months of this year from a year earlier, from 10.9% in August, according to economists surveyed by Bloomberg. close.

ELECTRICITY CRISIS

Factories in China were forced to cut production due to power shortages from the second half of September, sending the purchasing managers' index (PMI) below 50 for the first time since Covid-19 became pandemic last year, a sign that the manufacturing industry is shrinking instead of growing. However, strong export data and increased electricity consumption in September suggest that the impact of the power shortage crisis on industrial production can be diverse. Power consumption in the processing industry increased 6% year-on-year, indicating industrial production remains strong despite the power shortage, Goldman Sachs analysts said. However, according to this report, electricity consumption data can be volatile and may deviate from industrial production trends. Economists polled by Bloomberg forecast China's industrial output growth in September to fall to 3.9% year-on-year in September, matching the growth rate of 2020.

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The Delta variant has been causing outbreaks in China since mid-July. Authorities had to take drastic measures to control the spread, even if only a few cases were detected. because China is pursuing a strategy to eliminate Covid. This has a significant impact on consumption. At the end of August, localities in China began to relax anti-epidemic measures, so retail sales improved in September. According to the survey results of purchasing managers (PMI), service activities September also recovered stronger than expected. Experts surveyed by Bloomberg forecast China's retail sales to grow 3.5% in September, compared with a 2.5% increase in August.

EXPORTS STILL GROWING STRONGLY

In September, China's dollar-denominated exports rose 28.1 percent year-on-year to a record $305.7 billion, customs data released on October 13 showed. This increase far exceeded the forecast of 21.5% increase that analysts made earlier. Export growth reached 17.6%, lower than the forecast of 20.9%, bringing the trade surplus to USD 66.8 billion. Strong export growth is a bright spot in China's bad news economy. Demand for Chinese goods in advanced economies is still strong, in part because importers have had to move orders out of some other countries hit hard by Covid-19 like Vietnam. Importers are also trying to speed up orders from China to prepare for the year-end shopping season, because of concerns about bottlenecks in the global supply chain. A sharp increase in the trade surplus is one reason for the yuan's continued appreciation this year, despite the deteriorating outlook for China's economic growth. The yuan's uptrend may have started to worry Chinese policymakers, as demonstrated by the Central Bank of China (PBOC) on October 14 setting a lower reference rate. forecast, causing the renminbi to depreciate from a 4-month high.


 

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China's economy is very robust right now, hitting record growth each and every passing month, even one day China's economy is going down, it'll take the whole world economy down with her, the world economy now is largely relies on China's, so be careful what you are wishing for.
 

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China's economy is facing challenges from all sides: a slumping property market, an energy crisis, consumer pessimism, and soaring raw material prices...

The series of data that the government will release next Monday will show how bad the story is. Economists polled by Bloomberg news forecast China's gross domestic product (GDP) growth to be only 5% in the third quarter of this year, from the 7.9% increase achieved in the second quarter.

The outlook for the world's second-largest economy has deteriorated in recent months, as the real estate market has become precarious because of the Evergrande debt crisis, alongside a widespread power outage that has caused major disruptions to the economy. The factory must cut operations or suspend operations. Economists have simultaneously lowered their forecast for China's economic growth this year, saying that this deceleration could have a global impact.

"China's third-quarter growth is not an optimistic picture, especially since the low-base effect has gradually worn off," said Liu Peiqian, an economist at Natwest Markets in Singapore. “In the last quarter, the Chinese government prioritized long-term reform goals and reduced focus on short-term growth targets.

REAL ESTATE MARKET DOWN




Evergrande’s Ghost Cities

Beijing has gradually tightened restrictions on the real estate market to prevent financial risks, causing a sharp decline in construction activity and exacerbating a liquidity crisis at real estate giant Evergrande. . The Evergrande debt crisis has also had a significant impact on China's real estate industry in general. Total sales of China's 100 property developers fell 36% year-on-year in September, which is usually the peak period for annual home sales. From there, the effect is said to be able to spread throughout the economy because according to Goldman Sachs estimates, the real estate industry and related fields account for about a quarter of China's GDP. With cash flow tightening, Chinese real estate companies may have to cut back on new investment. Real estate investment growth may slow to 9.5% in the first nine months of this year from a year earlier, from 10.9% in August, according to economists surveyed by Bloomberg. close.

ELECTRICITY CRISIS

Factories in China were forced to cut production due to power shortages from the second half of September, sending the purchasing managers' index (PMI) below 50 for the first time since Covid-19 became pandemic last year, a sign that the manufacturing industry is shrinking instead of growing. However, strong export data and increased electricity consumption in September suggest that the impact of the power shortage crisis on industrial production can be diverse. Power consumption in the processing industry increased 6% year-on-year, indicating industrial production remains strong despite the power shortage, Goldman Sachs analysts said. However, according to this report, electricity consumption data can be volatile and may deviate from industrial production trends. Economists polled by Bloomberg forecast China's industrial output growth in September to fall to 3.9% year-on-year in September, matching the growth rate of 2020.

CAUTION CONSUMERS

The Delta variant has been causing outbreaks in China since mid-July. Authorities had to take drastic measures to control the spread, even if only a few cases were detected. because China is pursuing a strategy to eliminate Covid. This has a significant impact on consumption. At the end of August, localities in China began to relax anti-epidemic measures, so retail sales improved in September. According to the survey results of purchasing managers (PMI), service activities September also recovered stronger than expected. Experts surveyed by Bloomberg forecast China's retail sales to grow 3.5% in September, compared with a 2.5% increase in August.

EXPORTS STILL GROWING STRONGLY

In September, China's dollar-denominated exports rose 28.1 percent year-on-year to a record $305.7 billion, customs data released on October 13 showed. This increase far exceeded the forecast of 21.5% increase that analysts made earlier. Export growth reached 17.6%, lower than the forecast of 20.9%, bringing the trade surplus to USD 66.8 billion. Strong export growth is a bright spot in China's bad news economy. Demand for Chinese goods in advanced economies is still strong, in part because importers have had to move orders out of some other countries hit hard by Covid-19 like Vietnam. Importers are also trying to speed up orders from China to prepare for the year-end shopping season, because of concerns about bottlenecks in the global supply chain. A sharp increase in the trade surplus is one reason for the yuan's continued appreciation this year, despite the deteriorating outlook for China's economic growth. The yuan's uptrend may have started to worry Chinese policymakers, as demonstrated by the Central Bank of China (PBOC) on October 14 setting a lower reference rate. forecast, causing the renminbi to depreciate from a 4-month high.



This has always been a ticking time bomb because of the opacity of Chinese accounts.
 

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Please start separate threads for any insecurities and questions related to India and the US - don't derail this thread.
What do you mean " time bomb‘’? I only like to know this so called "time bomb" is not for China or every country on this planet. It's related to your post in this thread.
 

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What do you mean " time bomb‘’? I only like to know this so called "time bomb" is not for China or every country on this planet. It's related to your post in this thread.
For years, China hasn't met democratic standards of accounting and transparency. When the real figures come out, the bomb may blast. Thus ticking time bomb.
 

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For years, China hasn't met democratic standards of accounting and transparency. When the real figures come out, the bomb may blast. Thus ticking time bomb.
LOl, I know it's always easy to criticize others without bothering to look themselves in the mirror.
 

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Lol. Thanks for the fortune cookie wisdom but don't derail this thread with folksy sayings.
The fact at least for now is China's economy is faring very robust and dynamic, my suggestion is if you guys pay a little bit more attention to your own country, your country can be in a much better shape than it is now. Go and check out recently released global hunger index.
 

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The fact at least for now is China's economy is faring very robust and dynamic, my suggestion is if you guys pay a little bit more attention to your own country, your country can be in a much better shape than it is now. Go and check out recently released global hunger index.
Thanks for the unsolicited advise. If you wish to discuss your insecurities related to India or any other nation, instead of engaging in whataboutery, please post in the appropriate forum and don't derail this thread.
 

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Thanks for the unsolicited advise. If you wish to discuss your insecurities related to India or any other nation, instead of engaging in whataboutery, please post in the appropriate forum and don't derail this thread.
So what this thread is about? come back and tell me when China's economy does collapse, until then, this is BS.
 
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Please read the entire article. It is quite clear what this thread is about.
This is why I said come back and tell me when China's economy does collapse, until then, this is BS. it's just your wishful thinking.
 

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China's economy is very robust right now, hitting record growth each and every passing month, even one day China's economy is going down, it'll take the whole world economy down with her, the world economy now is largely relies on China's, so be careful what you are wishing for.
Strong export growth is a bright spot in China's bad news economy. Demand for Chinese goods in advanced economies is still strong, in part because importers have had to move orders out of some other countries hit hard by Covid-19 like Vietnam. Importers are also trying to speed up orders from China to prepare for the year-end shopping season, because of concerns about bottlenecks in the global supply chain.

But its still too hard for Cnese to have good enough job as CN factories using Myanmar workers with just 300 USD per month instead of CN workers who demand at least 1,000 USD per month. :cool:
 
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