Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

[mulj]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1450085601642954753

Assad too brought signifcant reinforcments, this could be real test for TSK if it could blow away those in fast and decisive manner.

 

[Huelague]

They are kurds you can't fool no one here

Any idea how many "kurds" has armenian roots?

 

[Huelague]

There are mostly Kurds in the organisation and the staff, but they are not the owner or the boss and they dont have a say in the policy, and thats why the PKK or YPG are not fighting for the Kurdish case or Kurdish problem.

It's like Egetürk or GAZI. Turkish name, Turkish products, Turkish workers but a German firm.

And i dont have to fool anyone. If you have brains, you will understand.

Owner of Egeturk is a Turk.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Never understood the Armenian argument, another conspiracy theory we dont need. We already have plenty.

There are also Turks in the PKK but most of them are Turkish citizens of Kurdish origin.

When FETO is a reality any conspiracy is possible.

 

[Huelague]

You mean by inter-marriages

No, most armenian which hided from ottomans, came into kurdish families. Later, they pretend themselves as kurds, because of fear.

 

[Lool]

Why are they openly discussing launching operations? You don't tell your enemy you're going to attack, you just attack.

Now literally everyone in the PKK/YPG knows that an attack is coming and has had time to dig in.

This is like if before launching the Spring Offensive in 1918, the German Empire sent like a dozen telegrams for an entire week to the Triple Entente declaring their intent to attack and warning them to back off.

Politics mate
It is all about politics
Just imagine if Turkey attacked suddenly and succeeded! What do you think will happen? Western media will accuse TSK military of killing and shelling CIVILIANS. Certainly, these areas are CONTROLLED by the YPG, but that doesnt change that civilians are living there too. The moment the Western media attacks the TSK on such premises, it will be the moment that Turkey wins the fight and loses the War!
We shouldnt give Westerners and their media more escuses to portray TSK and Turks as devils, warmongers, and civilian killers! When such a tag becomes associated with TSK, it will be all over for Turkey!
just look at how they show Assad Airstrikes in their media, just imagine if Turkey is in his place, the West will grill Turkey over nothing!

TSK did the right thing by giving a warning, now whoever dies in the operation area, whether Civilian or a fighter isnt the problem of the TSK

 

[Huelague]

You know what, those myths are overestimated. I have heard so many stories from friends on either side of the conflict, of their elders providing refuge to others, their families, but nothing at such scale.

Bro, it’s not a myth. That’s why diasporas claiming that we killed mio. They don’t mention that so many hided or flee in Kurdish families. Ocalan is one example.

 

[Gary]

Has there any talk with the US regarding the operation in SDF territory ?

 

[CAN_TR]

Sheich Sayyid had nothing to do with Kurds, Kurdistan or the Kurdish case.

My balls are falling off when i see how low the level of political history is here.

Denying the Armenian connection within the PKK, the linking of Sheich Sayyid to Kurdish seperatism, oh Lord.

Sehy Said started the rebellion with the support of the "Azadi" also known as Kürt Istiklal Komitesi, he was even married to the sister of Halid Beg Cibran the leader of the "Azadi". At least they could brag around for a whole month before they were totally crushed and hanged.

Using Islam, Leftism and Nationalism is a common practice Kurds are using nowdays, they're like some bellydancers. If it suits them they are Leftists, if it suits them they are devout Muslims etc...

You have no clue about history, don't lecture me or spreading some fake stories.
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If there was an connection to Armenia directly be sure that MIT and TSK would know about that and act accordingly. ASALA and PKK are two different terrorist organizations with totally different ways to operate. There are rumors of cooperation within Europe but for sure not Armenian "masterminds" behind the PKK.

 

[Manomed]

We have a president who cares more about some arab garbage called rabia than his own people there is something wrong with this

 

[what]

When FETO is a reality any conspiracy is possible.

Güllencis were known, there was a reason why Fetullah Güllen had to flee the country. And there was a reason why everybody with a little brain knew that the AKP and by extension Güllencis getting into power was a grave mistake. But that's a bit out of topic. Let's stay on Syria in here and discuss somewhere else if you want.

 

[Ravenman]

In a muslim vs non-muslim clash, Kurds were no ally to Armenians at the time. Forced relocation turned out to be the cause of a massive civil clash, worst of its kind. There are records of bloody clashes between Kurdish and Armenian gangs in the region (and attacts on civilians) claiming lives of tens of thousands, and with so much blood spilled, you cannot really talk about a voluntary campaign to “save your Armenian neighbor”. Read this document, on the measures taken by the Ottoman administration (apart from providing ill equipped troops to protect Armenian immigrants) amidst this bloodshed to save a few…

Sevk ve İskan Uygulaması |

Ermenilerin zorunlu göçü ile ilgili Tehcir Kanunu olarak bilinen kanun, Dâhiliye Nazırı Talât Bey’in girişimleriyle 27 Mayıs 1915 tarihinde ...

turksandarmenians.marmara.edu.tr

I guess it is the answer to your question!

We are Zaza's from Elazig's Palu district. The Palu district was almost Armenian but also a lot of Kurds and Zaza's lived there.

My grandelders told stories of Armenian women who sought refuge and to secure their children they married Kurdish villagers.

They never saw Armenian males, only women and children who were on the run.

Most Armenians integrated in Kurdish families and clans.

 

[Turko]

We are Zaza's from Elazig's Palu district. The Palu district was almost Armenian but also a lot of Kurds and Zaza's lived there.

My grandelders told stories of Armenian women who sought refuge and to secure their children they married Kurdish villagers.

They never saw Armenian males, only women and children who were on the run.

Most Armenians integrated in Kurdish families and clans.

A Zaza blaming of Kurds for being Armenian. I'll tell you that you could find more Armenian DNA in Rize and Kayseri.

 

[TheInsider]

Target softening has started. If a green light is given operation can start anytime but IMHO early November is more likely.

 

[Manomed]

Target softening has started. If a green light is given operation can start anytime but IMHO early November is more likely.

where did you get this Info?

 

[TheInsider]

where did you get this Info?

From my friend at the operation zone who is a petty officer.

 

[Manomed]

From my friend at the operation zone who is a petty officer.

Hope we don't lose more men for not to give collateral damage

 

[HTurk]

We are Zaza's from Elazig's Palu district.

Oh my f***ing goodness. Are we related to each other?! From which village are you?

 

[Manomed]

Hope to see tel rıfat destroyed with zero to no buildings left

From my friend at the operation zone who is a petty officer.

 

[Ryder]

The stories that PKK is a Armenian origin terror group is something Islamists and Kurds themselves claim, but the truth is they are as much as kurdish as the Talibans are Pashtun. You can't fool anybody here.

It's just the continuation of the Kocgiri, Beytussebab, Ararat, Dersim and Sehy Said rebellions.
Now they're trying to justify it with Turkish fascism, Kemalism, but what about all the rebellions during Ottoman Caliphate times?

And it's is known how Barzanis KDP, Talabanis PUK, Arafats Fatah (PLO) and other Palestinian organizations like PPSF cooperated and some even trained the pkk in guerilla warfare. However there is not even one proven relation to ASALA for example or JCAG just claims of cooperation in Europe.

The founder is a kurd, their high ranking members, the small thugs and also their supporters.

Ottoman cases of rebellion among kurds is mostly localised due to the Ottomans taking away feudalism during its modernisation process as years went by all of the ethnic groups including the Kurds started to espouse their own nationalism.

Ottomans were struggling to keep all ethnic groups happy when Eastern Turkey was mostly Turk, Kurdish and Arab. Kurds and the Arabs wanted to break away while the Turks rejected breaking away.

Ottoman Empire just like the Habsburg Empire its rivals had too many ethnic groups that wanted to break away many were also fighting each other.

Now we see what happened to Austria and Hungary they got elimnated will no longer able to be a power let alone a regional power. They also lost their access to the sea.

Us Turks nearly had this same fate by becoming a rump state after ww1 you know us Turks wont accept humilation.

Turkish Resistance against the Allies started in 1918 when they step foot in the capital. We became more organised due to various Ottoman officers resigning and leaving including Ataturk who made his way to Samsun to gather up resistance to a new fight.