I think we should have done it anyway and call it a testbed. We haven’t heard anything about italians not giving permission to test ts1400 on Atak platform.
Mr. Aksit also has given a time that it will take up to 2024/2025 if i recall correctly. Which means it is hard to take 3-4 years including certification.
But please remember that the time given was for Gokbey certification , which is a semi civilian craft and needs many more tests for certification. A TS1400 for military use would not need the same certification tests. Hence the timescale would be shorter.
Although I agree with you from the point of proving to ourselves that we can do it. However, I would be hesitant to try it on a platform like T-129 if there were a condition like specific engine usage. As it would have been a bit of a wasted effort. But trying it on a platform like T-629 could be fruitful.
Not only that I think we all know that the moment we prove we can do it. The restrictions they put on us becomes obsolete. Which leaves only one question, do they want to make money or lose out.
Certification for military use is not about issuing an official certificate but proving that the engine is suitable for military use in dedicated applications. Sometimes these tests and verifications lasts longer than a civilian certification.
Engine in T129 can be changed there is no problem about it, that is not hard and Leonardo is still partner of the project, they gladly accept it but Turkey's sole producer license ends in 2028. Turkey already secured / tested and stockpiled reliable and proven engine CTS800, certifying another engine for Turkish Helo's is not feasible atm. Also not feasible for future sales! Turkey will rather focus on its T129 rival (T629).
You are probably right. But I was going by what Prof Aksit was saying about the certification of military engines. He was insisting on the civilian test procedures being longer and more arduous as the helicopters would be carrying passengers, they would have to go through tests set up by many civilian aviation safety bodies like EASA.
+ Second corvette to Turkmenistan and the frigate + mini submarine. This is really good.
EASA tests are lengthy and very difficult tests. There is no military certification, there is military qualification, and qualification tests are done inside TR with the Turkish authorities rather than foreign bodies like EASA.
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They probably don't think it's worth it to invest in the T-129 Atak integration because of the long duration of integration and tests, Italian license expiring and want to push for integration into the national T-629. That way they will both introduce a platform with more national input and also more modern, with more capabilities.
B Class (main radar), Turkish LST(main radar), Turkmenistan C92 (on gokdeniz), PN Milgem (on Gokdeniz by 2023), Ukranian Milgem (on Gokdeniz by 2024), I- Class (on Gokdeniz by 2023), Barbaroz YOM (secondary radar by 2022/2023), Turkish OPV (main radar by 2023), maybe in one of the other navy as secondary or main radar (already).
Likely not satisfied by the Chinese one, i am not quite familiar with the African market with a simple search i could find that Nigeria was expecting second hull of P18N to be constructed in Nigeria by local contribution but reports are telling it is completed in China.
