They already turned communist extremists into heroes and fighters of western liberties and freedom. "The most effective fighting force". A bunch of cowardly communist terrorists were picked over Turkey. Thats because the long term goal is obvious, the balkanisation of Turkey.
Erdogan is the biggest traitor of Turkish history along with Damat Ferit and Vahdettin.
Go wash your mouth with chemical soap. Sultan Vahdettin was responsible for Turkey's independence. He gave M.K. the orders to start the campaign. After the liberation, the secularists betrayed him.
This happens when you learn history from your local sheikh.
Vahdettin couldnt even wipe his ass on his own. He was licking British asshole to stay in Istanbul and act as a British governor. As long as his ass remained on a decorated throne he was fine with Turkish people being subjugated.
Even his photos show how much of lame coward he was, you can see it on his face.
I really wonder if you could say any of this to Ataturks face.
Oh really? But when Erdogan and his followers says that Turkey is under attack (dış güçler) you and your fellow t-bonesteak-socialists are laughing your asses of.
This happens when you learn history from your local sheikh.
Vahdettin couldnt even wipe his ass on his own. He was licking British asshole to stay in Istanbul and act as a British governor. As long as his ass remained on a decorated throne he was fine with Turkish people being subjugated.
Even his photos show how much of lame coward he was, you can see it on his face.
I really wonder if you could say any of this to Ataturks face.
I didnt expect him to turn it around.Vahdettin was a coward and a shit leader.
But people should not expect him to turn the country around when the empire he was given was nothing more than dead.
You have a lot of people blaming him for the collapse when he became sultan the empire was dead and under invasion. No chance of turning it around.
My biggest problem was vahdettin did not grab a gun and shoot some invaders ass but trusted his Damat too much.
I didnt expect him to turn it around.
He could at least not undermine our salvation war and lick British asshole just to stay in throne.
A man in his position could even rally the people of Istanbul into a resistance not to mention he had time and opportunity to escape Anatolia.
These are all empty words, his persona had been well recorded in history. For those who seek truth it is out there open. For those in denial not much can be done.
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Did I even make a comment on how he ended up on the throne? Did he lick British ass excessively to remain in throne to the extend of betraying his nation? He did without doubt.
It is your history telling that Turkish history starts at 1299. It has been with the republic that Turkish people learnt they had a history prior to Ottomans and even Islam.
It is also very interesting how you are peculiar on the non-Turkish origins of Young Turk cadres. I am not a Young Turks fan. They were obviously for the worse of our nation but I dont think they were traitors. They were just incompetent.
Regardless of what they were, Vahdettin was a traitor.
tell them to directly strike the Russians next time.Lol , the russians have took their revenge on the poor innocent syrian after the israeli humiliate them few days earlier in latakia port strikes
tell them to directly strike the Russians next time.
Lol sinan meydan sucks. Funny you had to post sozcu.
I studied history. My teacher taught me treat it like a science not a football team. There are various factors in what influences an outcome.
Not to mention any figure including Ataturk are not immune to criticism.
When it comes to sevres despite being signed by Damat ferit it was never ratified by the Ottoman parliament. Hence why the allies felt the need to occupy even without a stupid treaty they were already had plans to occupy and partition our lands.
Vahdettins biggest mistake that he was a weak leader in charge of an empire shattered into pieces. I feel sorry for him actually. Pretty sad and tragic. If only he grabbed a rifle shot some invaders. Everybody would have looked at him differently.
Israelis brought down a Russian transport plane you guys did nothing about it.
Israel constantly strikes Syria your ally and you guys do nothing about it.
Its easy to airstrike chicken coops.
He could have come to Anatolia and at least be useful spiritually.
He could have make a speech in Istanbul telling people to resist.
Heck, at least he could have resisted making undermining speeches against Ankara movement.
He could have done so much, something. Every action he has taken, every word he has spoken clearly indicate that he saw Turkish people as his own property and he was willing to negotiate with British his throne over the future of Turkish nation.
He was going to act like a British governor in India.
Parliament not ratifying what Damat Ferit signed does not take Damat Ferits betrayal back. He showed his character. Vahdettin was the brother in law of Damat Ferit.
What was hilarious about that was the arrogance of the Israeli pilot using the russian transport plane as a shield. Naturally Russia did nothing about it. Russia is good at hitting nations they feel cannot hit them back, but nations that have the means to strike the russians make them uncomfortable, they tend to sit down.
vahdettin married his fourth wife during 1920s while the war of independence still going on he is a traitorHe could have come to Anatolia and at least be useful spiritually.
He could have make a speech in Istanbul telling people to resist.
Heck, at least he could have resisted making undermining speeches against Ankara movement.
He could have done so much, something. Every action he has taken, every word he has spoken clearly indicate that he saw Turkish people as his own property and he was willing to negotiate with British his throne over the future of Turkish nation.
He was going to act like a British governor in India.
Parliament not ratifying what Damat Ferit signed does not take Damat Ferits betrayal back. He showed his character. Vahdettin was the brother in law of Damat Ferit.
Israelis brought down a Russian transport plane you guys did nothing about it.
Israel constantly strikes Syria your ally and you guys do nothing about it.
Its easy to airstrike chicken coops.
Well because of that S-300s control some of their Airspace you can also ask Turkey if their S-400s in Syria cover their airspace.
Thats like saying Russia constantly strikes the FSA and Turkey/UAE does nothing about it, since when is it their obligation to go protect syrians? All they care about is preventing an oil pipeline from the UAE to europe with Syria being used for it to screw them over... But that did not work as plan and some oil truckers heading to turkey get bombed by them. I think their objectives are entirely different from yours.
hmmm depends some pantsir systems hit, rest are outdated systems plenty of TB2s destroyed. Russians are no strangers to sophisticated drone projects or having better versions of pantsirs being used. I heard that some Russian poster made another turkish user sort of become quite after posting this image.I don't buy russian hype just like i didnt buy that syrian airspace was closed to Turkey. When Turkey chose to strike Syria the Russian air defence systems were wiped out. Systems that would further be exposed by Turks in Libya and Azerbaijan making the pantsir a meme.
They tried to drag NATO into this but that did not work out. I thought Erdogan was the most popular turkish populist in terms of turkish nationalistm, your telling me that Turkey as more pro-Turk politicians that want to restore the ottoman empire than Erdogan?As for Russian behaviour in syria, disgraceful mostly killing civilians and making the place unliveable for the people. Its a shame we have erdogan in power, because when Russia killed the Turkish troops that would have been the time to completely enter syria and remove russian tyranny and their backed tyrant assad.