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[NEKO]

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Those Russian vehicles that stretch for kms is a juicy target, just imagine something like "highway of death (Iraq)".

Although the Ukrainians have limited capability, surely they still have some MLRS left, although it won't be that accurate but is still better than none. Will be different if NATO decided to join the war, they can spam launch PGM and missiles or carpet bomb it (using stealth bomber).

 

[Madokafc]

Well they only consume the information and news that is specially "provided" for them.

Hilariously they already assumed if the US population is kinda stupid, lazy, coward and fat and tender. But easily forgeting if the US population and government is one of the most warmonger nation and society in modern history.

Those Russian vehicles that stretch for kms is a juicy target, just imagine something like "highway of death (Iraq)".

Although the Ukrainians have limited capability, surely they still have some MLRS left, although it won't be that accurate but is still better than none. Will be different if NATO decided to join the war, they can spam launch PGM and missiles or carpet bomb it (using stealth bomber).

If the NATO joint the game, those convoy would be obliterated by any means, hell they have F15 Eagle, they are stationed A10 warthog there, B1 Lancer, B52 there is also M270 grid remover. Those Leopard 2, Leclrec and Abram along with Challenger 2 is not herbivore too. On top of that, NATO countries infantry member is well trained, equipped and had long history of continuous military deployment as profesional units aboard.

 

[R4duga]

brits should have sent some of their starstreak HVM to ukraine, and see if they're working as advertised, since most of the video i see that russian chopper use to spam chaff and flares during assault, the SACLOS of starstreak would render such countermeasures ineffective.

 

[Madokafc]

brits should have sent some of their starstreak HVM to ukraine, and see if they're working as advertised, since most of the video i see that russian chopper use to spam chaff and flares during assault, the SACLOS of starstreak would render such countermeasures ineffective.

We shall see what kind of package they are bringing in the new round of arms donation. Those mig 29 gifts itself brought new life line into the already crippled Ukraine air Forces.

Hundreds million US Dollar worth of arms, fuel, medicine and MRE is already on the way.

Russian seemingly resorted into their arts again, scorched arts tactics using heavy artillery attacks (MLRS, ballistic Missiles and bomber), had seen they are even using vacuum bombs and cluster bombs weaponry to flatten Cities especially Kharkiv.

 

[NEKO]

the SACLOS of starstreak would render such countermeasures ineffective.

Eyeball mk.1 of our S60 would also render such countermeasures ineffective.

Against those slow and low flying target S60 still have chances to score a kill.

 

[Lordimperator]

Against those slow and low flying target

enemy hot air balloons?

 

[NEKO]

enemy hot air balloons?

Enemy baling baling bambu.

 

[Madokafc]

Eyeball mk.1 of our S60 would also render such countermeasures ineffective.

Against those slow and low flying target S60 still have chances to score a kill.

UCAV would take them out

 

[Lordimperator]

Watching m3tr0 tv laughing myself how could we maintain ambiguity towards Rusky agrression

 

[NEKO]

Yang kemaren2 ga setuju modernisasi TNI apakah sekarang masih sama?

 

[Umigami]

Di mata ane the real winner di konflik ini adalah Turki/Erdogan . Mereka " Neutral " sambil jualan TB2 ,EW dan amunisi ( sigint gathering ) sekaligus jd calo untuk produk rusia di black market ....
Bebas - aktif dalam arti yg sesungguhnya .....

No, not really.

 

[Madokafc]

Yang kemaren2 ga setuju modernisasi TNI apakah sekarang masih sama?

Ada yang ngamuk gua bilang inventori TNI AD cuma cukup buat satu Minggu kalo model pertempurannya kek di Ukraina atau Nagorno karabakh

Dia kira sebanyak apaan inventory armor di TNI AD, kalo ribuan diatas lima ribuan unit model Russia, Arabs, Korsel atau Turki ya mending. Di kira kenapa TNI selalu nyicil beli armor walaupun cuma selusin atau dua lusin setiap tahunnya karena mereka tahu punya mereka jauh dari kebutuhan dan ancaman potensial yang ada.

 

[Madokafc]

Yah, makanya attrition Rates itu penting buat diperhitungkan dan diperhatikan sekiranya kita akan terlibat dalam sebuah konflik. Indonesia punya sekitar 1500 s/d 2000 an armored vehicles terdiri dari berbagai jenis (gabungan TNI AD dan Marinir), anggap saja kalau berkonflik dengan Malaysia kita harus lihat ancaman dari mereka apa saja, terus potensi suplai persenjataan mereka, apa yang mereka bawa ke tempat potensi terjadinya pertempuran dll. Para perencana harus ngitung apa yang dibawa, terus attrition Rates ga cuma datang dari aksi musuh, mulai dari kurangnya spare part di Medan tempur, break down karena over usage, stok amunisi habis, bencana model banjir atau kebakaran hutan, semakin kompleks mesin perang yang dibawa angkanya dari attrition Rates bakalan meningkat lho.

Perhitungan gua nggak asal mangap kalau soal itu. Angka seminggu itu termasuk bagus lho. Udah ada yang bahas di beberapa simulasi war games scenario TNI AD di universitas pertahanan soalnya.

 

[Madokafc]

Makanya ningkatin kapasitas produksi dan kemampuan industri pertahanan dalam negeri itu vital buat Indonesia saat ini.

 

[Lordimperator]

PRC embassy in Canada

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498540480023318528

 

[this is crunch]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498641627220430855

 

[Van Kravchenko]

satu Minggu

3 day at it best.

Jangan mengadi - adi, hitungan moral prajurit itu lain lagi.

 

[NEKO]

Kita masih butuh lebih banyak tanki2 segede gaban buat nimbun BBM dikala situasi darurat, ato malah mbikin yang underground kek cadangan strategis BBM US.

 

[FlyinMandau]

PRC embassy in Canada

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498540480023318528

*Canada embassy in PRC

 

[NEKO]

Itu proyek rosneft di tuban bakal keganggu ga tu?