The US didn't take 4 years to destroy Iraq or Afghanistan. Both Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were crushed within weeks and unlike what's happening here with Russia, where their logistics are completely screwed and their soldiers don't even know what the fuck they're doing, the US took minimal casualties and did everything with a high level of efficiency.
People keep confusing America's misplaced "peace keeping" missions in Iraq and Afghanistan where the US was trying to "westernize" two nations that absolutely did not wish to be westernized with America's ability to curbstomp its enemies into dust. This is why everyone who uses the "haha, you lost in Afghanistan/Vietnam/etc" card is an idiot, because they don't know the difference between political victory and military victory. The modern US military has suffered plenty of political defeats. It has yet to suffer a military one.
I'm pretty sure I've seen a video of Ukrainians scoring a hit on a Tu (or at least it looked like it) but I haven't seen SU-57s in action yet. I'll try and find it.
owh, 4 years is from the start until US leave Iraq??
well then i guess it's a few months then (20 March 2003 - 13 December 2003) count till US kill Saddam Hussein??
you sure about it?? Tu 160?? Tu22??
if you said that those bomber already participate the war, yes, i believe it
but Tu xxx got shut down, i haven't seen it.... please share it if it does happened
I expect some low-level continued resistance in the case of a Russian-backed coup in Ukraine as well, depending on how well the West supplies them with weapons. Due to its proximity to Europe and land-connection it wouldn't be the hardest thing to pull off. The Ukrainians aren't religious fanatics like the Taliban or ISIS but some civil disobedience or sabotage could be possible, in my opinion.
Also, I am not sure whether the Su-57 even reached operational capability yet, I know only like 10 of them were ever built.
which is why i mention SU35 to, why don't they deploy it???
i'm sure they have more than 20 of it in combat ready
It is possible to reconcile these two facts.
First, the Ukrainian forces may destroy a lot of Russian assets but still not bring them to a standstill. The Russians may have more than can be overwhelmed.
Second, as attrition continues, quality soldiers will be killed off, and more and more of lower quality troops will deploy.
Thirdly, this, if it is happening, will point to continued loss of space - the Ukrainians too will be suffering attrition - by the Ukrainians, and continued loss of assets by the Russians.
Fourthly, this should theoretically continue until Russia runs out of assets and stops moving, or until Ukraine sustains so much attrition, or loses all the space they have.
run out of assets, unlikely, run out of logistics, yes, it could be
we've haven't seen them showing their full force yet
plus, considering all the asset that they have, by now they are not savage enough when they doing their action
I thought conscripts would only be used for backline logistics and other non-combat roles. At the same time there were videos of Russian SOF getting beaten the hell out of in Kharkiv and other cities.
